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Seeds to share-Forgot to attach article
-- BetsyB "betsyb" wrote in message news:... -- BetsyB "Amos Nomore" wrote in message ... In article , FragileWarrior wrote: Ann wrote in : Amos Nomore expounded: I would like to retract that statement. Opium poppy plants are scheduled in the US. Deliberate cultivation of the plant is actually illegal, but since these plants are so common and have many uses other than drug production, cultivators are rarely prosecuted unless they are growing conspicuously large quantities or are otherwise clearly engaged in drug production. If you are bothered by law enforcement for having a few poppy plants on your property, claiming they were not planted but volunteered should get you off the hook unless, of course, you've been slashing those pods. I apologize for misinformation. ^the I've told this story before here, but years ago. The seeds I've offered were given to me originally by a little old lady over in Scituate (she was a wonderful gardener, of course she's gone now, and so is her garden). She had them growing in her garden for years and years - until an overzealous new cop saw them and decided to 'bust' her for them. It made the local papers. The charges were dropped and the cop subjected to much ridicule. They haven't bothered any of us again. Of course if I was carving up the seedpods and harvesting the resulting sap I'd be in a bit of trouble, but since they're right next to the busy road I live on and the police have full view of them I'm pretty sure they'll not bother with me. Here in Indiana, I got my current crop of Heritage Bread-seed Poppies from one of the Landmark Homes in the area. They sell them in their gift shop. I've grown very nice poppies from seeds from the grocery store. Some were surprisingly ornamental, but most were white or red wild-looking things (which I adore equally). Most, if not virtually all, of the poppy seed used for food is a byproduct of poppies grown for drug production, licit and illicit. Chances are that if you grow poppies from say, McCormick seed, you will be growing plants specifically bred for high alkaloid content. In the past that meant a high percentage of morphine. In recent years, however, strains of poppies have been developed which have a high concentration of the opioid thebaine and relatively low morphine content. Thebaine is desired by legitimate pharmaceutical manufacturers as a precursor for the manufacture of oxycodone and other modern synthetic opioids. Thebaine itself is quite toxic and has minimal recreational potential, so any opium extracted from these high thebaine poppy strains would be dangerous and worthless on the illicit drug market as raw opium, and grossly substandard as a source for the morphine base used for heroin manufacture. Since McCormick presumably imports tons of poppy seed from legitimate pharmaceutical poppy growers in Canada, New Zealand and Australia, much of that seed will nowadays be of the high thebaine Tasmanian strain which is overtaking the morphine dominant poppies of yesteryear in the licensed poppy industry. I just thought I'd share this out of general interest but, you never know, maybe it'll save a life or two. LOL. Well, at least maybe I've compensated a bit for jeopardizing the legal lives of countless innocent rec.gardens visitors. ;-} On a similar thread: read thru this article from today's paper in NJ. Prison guard returns to work Poppy seeds led to his dismissal after drug test Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 08/9/07 BY FRAIDY REISS TOMS RIVER BUREAU JACKSON - It's going to be a long time before Brian K. Darcy finds the courage to eat another poppy seed roll. His fondness for the tiny seeds was the reason he tested positive for opiates in a random drug test last March, and the reason he was subsequently fired from the state Department of Corrections, the township resident said. After 16 months of proclaiming his innocence, Darcy finally returned to work Monday as a senior corrections officer at New Jersey State Prison in Trenton. The Department of Corrections rescinded its disciplinary action, promised him back pay and restored the seniority he had earned since he began working for the department in 2000. To Darcy, 37, it was only a partial victory. "I'm back to work," he said. "I'm halfway there." He vowed to seek help from his union as he continues the other half of his mission: convincing the state to change its drug-testing methods so no one else is fired for enjoying poppy seeds. He said he will not rest - or eat another poppy seed roll - until New Jersey adopts a drug-testing policy that mirrors the federal government's. The U.S. Department of Health and Senior Services in 1998 changed its cutoff for opiates to 2,000 nanograms per milliliter, from 300, after finding that most positive tests below the 2,000 level were attributed to poppy seeds or to prescription medication. New Jersey's cutoff at the time was 300 nanograms. But then a Department of Corrections employee, Reginald Fredette, also of Jackson, was fired in 2000 because of a positive drug test that he blamed on poppy seeds. Fredette argued that New Jersey's standards were more strict than the federal government's. He was reinstated, and the state established a two-tier system that requires a follow-up test for law enforcement personnel whose initial screening shows between 300 and 2,000 nanograms. Darcy's follow-up test came up positive for morphine. However, the test was performed on a portion of his original urine sample, and he blamed the result on the same poppy-seed rolls he said he ate before the test. And he pointed out that even with the two-tier system, New Jersey's drug-testing policy is more strict than the federal government's. "Why are we being held to a different standard?" he asked. Deirdre Fedkenheuer, spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections, declined to comment, saying drug-testing policies are set by the state Attorney General. Peter Aseltine, a spokesman for the Attorney General's Office, acknowledged that the state's standards are "somewhat more strict" than the federal government's. But that is appropriate, he said, because the federal government's policy applies both to civilians and to law enforcement personnel, while the state's policy applies only to law enforcement. Besides, Aseltine added, the second-tier test is sensitive enough to eliminate the false positives that can result from poppy seeds. "We feel this testing is appropriate for law enforcement in New Jersey," he said. Richard Saferstein, former chief forensic scientist for the State Police, has sided with Darcy on the issue of drug screening. A test with a 300-nanogram cutoff can show a false positive for someone who eats even a single poppy seed roll in the 24 hours before giving a urine sample, he has said. Saferstein has called on the state to raise the cutoff to 2,000 or to ask people before they are tested to list all the foods they have eaten in the past 24 hours. Or, Darryl M. Saunders, Darcy's attorney, offered, the state could prohibit law enforcement personnel from eating poppy seeds. For now, though, Saunders said he was happy his client has returned to work. "The state did the right thing," he said. "My work here is done." |
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Seeds to share-Forgot to attach article
betsyb wrote:
Please do not put your sig (hyphen hyphen space) delimiter at the top of your posts. It belongs at the bottom of your post. -- Travis in Shoreline Washington |
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Travis expounded:
betsyb wrote: Please do not put your sig (hyphen hyphen space) delimiter at the top of your posts. It belongs at the bottom of your post. Betsy, I second that. It should go at the beginning of your signature, not the beginning of your post - newsreaders are designed to eliminate the signature when someone replies to your post - you're whole post is eliminated. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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Seeds to share-Forgot to attach article
Please do not put your sig (hyphen hyphen space) delimiter at the top of your posts. It belongs at the bottom of your post. Betsy, I second that. It should go at the beginning of your signature, not the beginning of your post - newsreaders are designed to eliminate the signature when someone replies to your post - you're whole post is eliminated. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** Forgive me but I see none of this in your postings od FAQ listed for this group. I had just come from the cancer group where their self appointed moderator insists you bottom post. No one has ever complained so rudely there about me. A couple rounds of chemo will leave you a tad goofy and forgetful. I hope neither of you ever has a chance to learn this tough lesson. I will try not to bother you again. betsy |
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Seeds to share-Forgot to attach article
betsyb wrote:
Please do not put your sig (hyphen hyphen space) delimiter at the top of your posts. It belongs at the bottom of your post. Betsy, I second that. It should go at the beginning of your signature, not the beginning of your post - newsreaders are designed to eliminate the signature when someone replies to your post - you're whole post is eliminated. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** Forgive me but I see none of this in your postings od FAQ listed for this group. I had just come from the cancer group where their self appointed moderator insists you bottom post. No one has ever complained so rudely there about me. A couple rounds of chemo will leave you a tad goofy and forgetful. I hope neither of you ever has a chance to learn this tough lesson. I will try not to bother you again. betsy I hope you have a speedy recovery. Bottom posting or interleaved posting is the preferred method. Yes you did bottom post but your sig delimiter was at the top of your post. The sig delimiter is the (dash dash space) or (hyphen hyphen space) just above your signature. -- Travis in Shoreline Washington |
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On 8/9/07 7:11 PM, in article WaNui.5165$MT3.833@trnddc05, "Travis"
wrote: betsyb wrote: Please do not put your sig (hyphen hyphen space) delimiter at the top of your posts. It belongs at the bottom of your post. Betsy, I second that. It should go at the beginning of your signature, not the beginning of your post - newsreaders are designed to eliminate the signature when someone replies to your post - you're whole post is eliminated. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** Forgive me but I see none of this in your postings od FAQ listed for this group. I had just come from the cancer group where their self appointed moderator insists you bottom post. No one has ever complained so rudely there about me. A couple rounds of chemo will leave you a tad goofy and forgetful. I hope neither of you ever has a chance to learn this tough lesson. I will try not to bother you again. betsy This post didn't come through on my ISP - so here it goes! {{{{{{Betsy}}}}}} |
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Seeds to share-Forgot to attach article
"betsyb" expounded:
Forgive me but I see none of this in your postings od FAQ listed for this group. I had just come from the cancer group where their self appointed moderator insists you bottom post. No one has ever complained so rudely there about me. A couple rounds of chemo will leave you a tad goofy and forgetful. I hope neither of you ever has a chance to learn this tough lesson. I will try not to bother you again. I hardly think I was rude, Betsy. This isn't a FAQ for rec.gardens, it's for all of Usenet. I'm sorry you're going through chemo, I'm going through my own health scares, thankfully they may not lead to chemo. There is no bother other than to learn to use a newsreader properly. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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