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Composting toilets
Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet?
I was reading about it today, enjoying my day off, and after looking at a video clip of the Sun Mar systems it sounds pretty good for a small house with limited waste connections. My house has only 1 bathroom, kitchen sink, and laundry room outlet going to my septic tank. If the toilet could be converted to a composting model, that would mean the septic tank would be for greywater only - dramatically increasing its lifespan and its doubtful I'd ever have to pump the tank again. I've never priced them out, so they could be 20 million dollars for all I know, plus I would expect the county makes it tough if not impossible to install them in a residential area. Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. |
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on 8/24/2007 2:41 PM Eigenvector said the following:
Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet? I was reading about it today, enjoying my day off, and after looking at a video clip of the Sun Mar systems it sounds pretty good for a small house with limited waste connections. My house has only 1 bathroom, kitchen sink, and laundry room outlet going to my septic tank. If the toilet could be converted to a composting model, that would mean the septic tank would be for greywater only - dramatically increasing its lifespan and its doubtful I'd ever have to pump the tank again. I've never priced them out, so they could be 20 million dollars for all I know, plus I would expect the county makes it tough if not impossible to install them in a residential area. Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. Not to mention a compost pile. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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Eigenvector wrote:
Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet? I was reading about it today, enjoying my day off, and after looking at a video clip of the Sun Mar systems it sounds pretty good for a small house with limited waste connections. My house has only 1 bathroom, kitchen sink, and laundry room outlet going to my septic tank. If the toilet could be converted to a composting model, that would mean the septic tank would be for greywater only - dramatically increasing its lifespan and its doubtful I'd ever have to pump the tank again. I've never priced them out, so they could be 20 million dollars for all I know, plus I would expect the county makes it tough if not impossible to install them in a residential area. Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. Great reading for enjoying one's day off: http://weblife.org/humanure/default.html Best regards, Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote: Eigenvector wrote: Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet? http://www.google.com/search?q=rockefeller%20compost Bill -- S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid |
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Eigenvector wrote:
Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet? I was reading about it today, enjoying my day off, and after looking at a video clip of the Sun Mar systems it sounds pretty good for a small house with limited waste connections. My house has only 1 bathroom, kitchen sink, and laundry room outlet going to my septic tank. If the toilet could be converted to a composting model, that would mean the septic tank would be for greywater only - dramatically increasing its lifespan and its doubtful I'd ever have to pump the tank again. I've never priced them out, so they could be 20 million dollars for all I know, plus I would expect the county makes it tough if not impossible to install them in a residential area. Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. If you look at the recommendations for pumping a septic tank you'll find for a single occupancy house with a typical 1,000 gal septic tank and no kitchen garbage disposer you pretty much don't have to pump the tank since there is virtually no chance of adding to the sludge at a rate faster than the bacteria can do their thing. |
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on 8/24/2007 4:35 PM Pete C. said the following:
Eigenvector wrote: Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet? I was reading about it today, enjoying my day off, and after looking at a video clip of the Sun Mar systems it sounds pretty good for a small house with limited waste connections. My house has only 1 bathroom, kitchen sink, and laundry room outlet going to my septic tank. If the toilet could be converted to a composting model, that would mean the septic tank would be for greywater only - dramatically increasing its lifespan and its doubtful I'd ever have to pump the tank again. I've never priced them out, so they could be 20 million dollars for all I know, plus I would expect the county makes it tough if not impossible to install them in a residential area. Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. If you look at the recommendations for pumping a septic tank you'll find for a single occupancy house with a typical 1,000 gal septic tank and no kitchen garbage disposer you pretty much don't have to pump the tank since there is virtually no chance of adding to the sludge at a rate faster than the bacteria can do their thing. Yep, chicken bones don't decay as fast as stool. Hell, there are dinosaur bones (not fossilized) that are still being dug up. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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Pete C. wrote:
Eigenvector wrote: Has anyone tried or used a composting toilet? I was reading about it today, enjoying my day off, and after looking at a video clip of the Sun Mar systems it sounds pretty good for a small house with limited waste connections. My house has only 1 bathroom, kitchen sink, and laundry room outlet going to my septic tank. If the toilet could be converted to a composting model, that would mean the septic tank would be for greywater only - dramatically increasing its lifespan and its doubtful I'd ever have to pump the tank again. I've never priced them out, so they could be 20 million dollars for all I know, plus I would expect the county makes it tough if not impossible to install them in a residential area. Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. If you look at the recommendations for pumping a septic tank you'll find for a single occupancy house with a typical 1,000 gal septic tank and no kitchen garbage disposer you pretty much don't have to pump the tank since there is virtually no chance of adding to the sludge at a rate faster than the bacteria can do their thing. I try to tell my wife that but she insists in having pumped out every 2-3 years. But even so, with cost of pumping, I think it would be foolish to put in a composting toilet which probably costs thousands of dollars. I'm only familiar with one composting toilet. It's in a park with no water and is solar powered and always stinks. |
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"Eigenvector" expounded:
Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. That entirely depends on where you live. Around here everyone has one, we have no sewers (nor do I want them, with the associated fees). -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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"Ann" wrote in message ... "Eigenvector" expounded: Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. That entirely depends on where you live. Around here everyone has one, we have no sewers (nor do I want them, with the associated fees). -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** It doesn't work that way in our district. Here a septic drain field is impossibly large by code, much much larger than the one my house was built on. My presumption is that they are trying to encourage everyone to get onto sewer. Until my septic fails I won't do that - or at least until they put a lien on my property. I was wondering about the composting toilet because it would dramatically change the lifespan of an older drain field. |
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"Eigenvector" expounded:
It doesn't work that way in our district. Here a septic drain field is impossibly large by code, much much larger than the one my house was built on. My presumption is that they are trying to encourage everyone to get onto sewer. Until my septic fails I won't do that - or at least until they put a lien on my property. Well, they aren't even an option here (sewers), nor are they likely to be in the near future, so I'm safe for now. We just spent $11K on a new septic system, I'd been here 27 years at that point on a cesspool that had finally failed, so we had to. We got off easy. Due to Title 5, many people around here have what I call a Monument to Title 5 in their yards -a raised leaching field that looks like bloody hell and costs much more than ours, which is in the ground, way down back behind the house, the only sign of it is the damned white candy-cane vent. I was wondering about the composting toilet because it would dramatically change the lifespan of an older drain field. I'm sure they aren't allowed around here. I used to have a greywater system that had been installed with the original cesspool back in the 50's. It's still out there, but they won't let me tie into it. Stupid. In many of the state and national parks they use composting toilets. I think they're great, they don't smell, and allow them to put in public toilets without having to go to the expense of plumbing, etc. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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on 8/24/2007 7:19 PM Eigenvector said the following:
"Ann" wrote in message ... "Eigenvector" expounded: Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. That entirely depends on where you live. Around here everyone has one, we have no sewers (nor do I want them, with the associated fees). -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** It doesn't work that way in our district. Here a septic drain field is impossibly large by code, much much larger than the one my house was built on. My presumption is that they are trying to encourage everyone to get onto sewer. Until my septic fails I won't do that - or at least until they put a lien on my property. I was wondering about the composting toilet because it would dramatically change the lifespan of an older drain field. Where I lived before, we had a septic system. They put in municipal sewers and although you didn't have to hook up to the muni system, they charged you as if you were connected. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"willshak" wrote in message ... on 8/24/2007 7:19 PM Eigenvector said the following: "Ann" wrote in message ... "Eigenvector" expounded: Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. That entirely depends on where you live. Around here everyone has one, we have no sewers (nor do I want them, with the associated fees). -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** It doesn't work that way in our district. Here a septic drain field is impossibly large by code, much much larger than the one my house was built on. My presumption is that they are trying to encourage everyone to get onto sewer. Until my septic fails I won't do that - or at least until they put a lien on my property. I was wondering about the composting toilet because it would dramatically change the lifespan of an older drain field. Where I lived before, we had a septic system. They put in municipal sewers and although you didn't have to hook up to the muni system, they charged you as if you were connected. -- Bill That would **** me off - getting charged for something you don't need or use. |
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"Eigenvector" wrote: "willshak" wrote in message ... on 8/24/2007 7:19 PM Eigenvector said the following: "Ann" wrote in message ... "Eigenvector" expounded: Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. That entirely depends on where you live. Around here everyone has one, we have no sewers (nor do I want them, with the associated fees). -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** It doesn't work that way in our district. Here a septic drain field is impossibly large by code, much much larger than the one my house was built on. My presumption is that they are trying to encourage everyone to get onto sewer. Until my septic fails I won't do that - or at least until they put a lien on my property. I was wondering about the composting toilet because it would dramatically change the lifespan of an older drain field. Where I lived before, we had a septic system. They put in municipal sewers and although you didn't have to hook up to the muni system, they charged you as if you were connected. -- Bill That would **** me off - getting charged for something you don't need or use. If I put in a new well I must pay to have the old one capped. I'd like to use it just for Irrigation but big brother says one well per dwelling. Bill -- S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid |
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Cheryl Isaak expounded:
On 8/24/07 6:08 PM, in article , "Ann" wrote: "Eigenvector" expounded: Heck, simply having a septic tank is almost an impossibility now. That entirely depends on where you live. Around here everyone has one, we have no sewers (nor do I want them, with the associated fees). But Ann, don't you need to put in a Title 5 septic system prior to the land changing hands? May it be a long time from now... If you sell your house you need to have a Title 5 inspection done. If your system passes (it won't if it's older than ten years or so) then you're good to go. If it doesn't, then it has to be repaired or replaced. The selling price can be adjusted so the seller does it, if it's decided the buyer is going to do it, he/she'd better have their own financing because lenders won't lend on it until the system is fixed. I did it because I had to, the cesspool failed. I have no plans on selling, but it's good to know it's done. We just had it pumped for the first time, every three years we'll get it done again. C (BTW - it is total crook of shit in my book) The way the regulations are written yes, it is. In more ways than one! G -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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