hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces. any ideas?

On Oct 20, 1:53?pm, calberto22 wrote:
hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces. any ideas?

Gas lights.

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calberto22 wrote:

hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces. any ideas?

Any chance you have a electric pole some where nearby ?

Reason being some of the new flood lights could maybe do your lighting
needs. Your beauty needs and the effect on others in your neighboring
homes a major consideration. I'd call your electric provider for
options.

Bill

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Sheldon wrote:
On Oct 20, 1:53?pm, calberto22 wrote:
hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces. any ideas?

Gas lights.



That'd be even more expensive, and more permits.


My two cents is to do low voltage lighting. You won't need permits and
heck, you can pretty well do it yourself or hire a general handyman to
install it.

There is a down side that the cable can only be ran a certain length and
150-200 foot may be well outside that range.

However an electrical line could be ran that 150-200' and an exterior
"in use" outlet could be installed to handle the 12 volt lighting at the
fence. That way the only major expense would be that initial run that
an electrician would have to do, cutting the costs greatly.

Once you have power at the column (most likely the center of where you'd
like to start) you can then run your 12 volt along the fence and install
lights on each column.

You'd have to know how far of a distance you'd need to cover to make
sure that 12 volt lighting would even work from the center column. You
might need to have more than one electrical box installed, which may
mean trenches being dug 18" deep from your house in several directions.

At any rate, just my two cents for an option.

calberto22 wrote:

hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces.

any ideas?

yes. enjoy the beauty of darkness where you will be allowed
to see the spectacular lights hung on nothing in the night sky.
you won't need an electrician or a permit and the fuel cost are
very reasonable for powering your dark yard.

g

however, if you reside in a city where light pollution has
already robbed you of any chance whatsoever of enjoying the
beauty of darkness then my suggestion will not work for you.

Jim wrote:
calberto22 wrote:
hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces.

any ideas?

yes. enjoy the beauty of darkness where you will be allowed
to see the spectacular lights hung on nothing in the night sky.
you won't need an electrician or a permit and the fuel cost are
very reasonable for powering your dark yard.

g

however, if you reside in a city where light pollution has
already robbed you of any chance whatsoever of enjoying the
beauty of darkness then my suggestion will not work for you.

You know.. That's a good idea!

We moved some 5 miles away from the place we WERE in.. It's amazing how
many more stars you can see..

It's funny though, off to the north east you can see the Arora Borealis
that is Wal*Mart.. Kills all the stars in that section of the sky.

So glad we moved out into the county.

Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Jim wrote:
calberto22 wrote:
hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces.

any ideas?

yes. enjoy the beauty of darkness where you will be allowed
to see the spectacular lights hung on nothing in the night sky.
you won't need an electrician or a permit and the fuel cost are
very reasonable for powering your dark yard.

g

however, if you reside in a city where light pollution has
already robbed you of any chance whatsoever of enjoying the
beauty of darkness then my suggestion will not work for you.

You know.. That's a good idea!

yep, most every night after it gets dark I enjoy a cup of
coffee while I gaze at the stars. the money I'm saving
powering my energy efficient darkness allows me to buy more
coffee.


We moved some 5 miles away from the place we WERE in.. It's amazing how
many more stars you can see..

nice to be able to enjoy something before it is ruined by
those moving in on top of your location who prefer street
lights, yard lights and other sources of light pollution.
sad how it is they never know how far reaching the destruction
of their lights can be.


It's funny though, off to the north east you can see the Arora Borealis
that is Wal*Mart.. Kills all the stars in that section of the sky.

that's one of the death rays from urbanization.


So glad we moved out into the county.

I'm glad you are able to enjoy living in the rural
country before it is all gone. noticed yet how well
you can actually see in the night after your eyes adjust?

enjoy...

"calberto22" wrote in message
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hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces. any ideas?


Solar is only going to get accent lights for you. I'm talking about the
brightness of a "mini" twinkle christmas tree bulb. If your aim is to
merely
decorate with them, that's fine. But most people want sconce lights to
produce enough light to illuminate the housing itself as well as a walk or
some such.

What might work for you is a large stepdown transformer, 120 volt
to 24 volt. You do NOT
need permitting for 24 volt wiring. With the 200 foot run you will need
heavy guage - perhaps 10 or 8 guage - from the house to the concrete
columns. Once at the columns you can distribute the 24 volts with
regular lampcord wire, from the heavy guage feed. You can just
bury the wire right in the ground, a few inches down.

You can run standard incandescent bulbs off such a feed. Of course they
will be dimmer. For example a 100watt bulb might be around the
brightness of a 15 watt bulb. Or you can get special 24 volt Xeon lights
and receptacles for them.

Ted

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:37:22 -0400, Jim wrote:

Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Jim wrote:
calberto22 wrote:
hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lighting of some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces.

any ideas?

yes. enjoy the beauty of darkness where you will be allowed
to see the spectacular lights hung on nothing in the night sky.
you won't need an electrician or a permit and the fuel cost are
very reasonable for powering your dark yard.

g

however, if you reside in a city where light pollution has
already robbed you of any chance whatsoever of enjoying the
beauty of darkness then my suggestion will not work for you.

You know.. That's a good idea!

yep, most every night after it gets dark I enjoy a cup of
coffee while I gaze at the stars. the money I'm saving
powering my energy efficient darkness allows me to buy more
coffee.


We moved some 5 miles away from the place we WERE in.. It's amazing how
many more stars you can see..

nice to be able to enjoy something before it is ruined by
those moving in on top of your location who prefer street
lights, yard lights and other sources of light pollution.
sad how it is they never know how far reaching the destruction
of their lights can be.

Dairy farmers in particular don't have the luxury of starting work after
it's light or wrapping things up at dusk. And after a 12+ hour work day
(every day), star gazing is usually not high on their list of priorities.
Instead, for safety, security, and convenience, they have a REC-supplied
dusk-dawn light installed on the transformer pole(s). (Contrary to popular
myth, there are criminals in rural areas too.)

It's funny though, off to the north east you can see the Arora Borealis
that is Wal*Mart.. Kills all the stars in that section of the sky.

that's one of the death rays from urbanization.


So glad we moved out into the county.

I'm glad you are able to enjoy living in the rural country before it is
all gone. noticed yet how well you can actually see in the night after
your eyes adjust?

enjoy...

On Oct 22, 1:37 pm, Jim wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand wrote:

Jim wrote:
calberto22 wrote:
hi i thought maybe someone on this group could help. i have an
aluminum gate that surrounds my house, with several concrete columns
every 15 feet. . they are about 150 to 200 feet away from my house.
i would lvoe to put some lights on the outside of them, however, i've
called several electricians and have been told it's extremely
complicated and expensive, especially since we have to pull permits.
i was thinkng the ideal situation would be to simply place a wireless
wall sconce on the columns, then i wouldn't ahve to deal with
electrical wiring. Maybe something solar, or possibly flourescent
lightingof some kind that does not need a lot of power, but that is
wireless. i've looked EVERYWHERE on line and cannot find any decent
looking exterior wireless wall lights for sconces.

any ideas?

yes. enjoy the beauty of darkness where you will be allowed
to see the spectacular lights hung on nothing in the night sky.
you won't need an electrician or a permit and the fuel cost are
very reasonable for powering your dark yard.

g

however, if you reside in a city where light pollution has
already robbed you of any chance whatsoever of enjoying the
beauty of darkness then my suggestion will not work for you.

You know.. That's a good idea!

yep, most every night after it gets dark I enjoy a cup of
coffee while I gaze at the stars. the money I'm saving
powering my energy efficient darkness allows me to buy more
coffee.



We moved some 5 miles away from the place we WERE in.. It's amazing how
many more stars you can see..

nice to be able to enjoy something before it is ruined by
those moving in on top of your location who prefer street
lights, yard lights and other sources of light pollution.
sad how it is they never know how far reaching the destruction
of their lights can be.



It's funny though, off to the north east you can see the Arora Borealis
that is Wal*Mart.. Kills all the stars in that section of the sky.

that's one of the death rays from urbanization.



So glad we moved out into the county.

I'm glad you are able to enjoy living in the rural
country before it is all gone. noticed yet how well
you can actually see in the night after your eyes adjust?

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On Oct 22, 6:50 am, Ann wrote:
Dairy farmers in particular don't have the luxury of starting work after
it's light or wrapping things up at dusk. And after a 12+ hour work day
(every day), star gazing is usually not high on their list of priorities.
Instead, for safety, security, and convenience, they have a REC-supplied
dusk-dawn light installed on the transformer pole(s). (Contrary to popular
myth, there are criminals in rural areas too.)


I just got done installing some outside lights around the property.
Security. We're having an ongoing battle with packs of wild dogs and
you
can't shoot what you can't see. Most of them are motion detectors but
a few of them are on dusk to dawn. Lights are much better then
getting
your arm chewed off by a wild dog that you couldn't see.

We also have some solar lights around the front and along the drive.
They don't put out massive amounts of light but you can at least see
the drive.

Randy

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:46:33 -0800, wrote:

On Oct 22, 6:50 am, Ann wrote:
Dairy farmers in particular don't have the luxury of starting work after
it's light or wrapping things up at dusk. And after a 12+ hour work day
(every day), star gazing is usually not high on their list of priorities.
Instead, for safety, security, and convenience, they have a REC-supplied
dusk-dawn light installed on the transformer pole(s). (Contrary to popular
myth, there are criminals in rural areas too.)


I just got done installing some outside lights around the property.
Security. We're having an ongoing battle with packs of wild dogs and
you
can't shoot what you can't see. Most of them are motion detectors but
a few of them are on dusk to dawn. Lights are much better then
getting
your arm chewed off by a wild dog that you couldn't see.

We also have some solar lights around the front and along the drive.
They don't put out massive amounts of light but you can at least see
the drive.

Randy

This thread seems to have gone thru the wringer and back. However,
whoever the OP is, why not just get some of those low voltage devices.
They are made for yard use along sidewalks, in gardens, and other yard
areas. The whole thing runs off a plug in transformer. Then some
thin wires go to the lights that should not require a a permit or an
electrician, since everything is wired to the transformer which is a
plug in device. There are all kinds of varieties from LED to
hi-intensity 12V bulbs, and probably more. There are even some solar
ones.