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Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude
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Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude



Rude?

OK. I'm sorry. You're right. I should've been nicer. He

Viticulture is the cultivation of grapes, especially for winemaking.

Happy now?


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hell no
don't tell me what viticulture is thanks i know what it is thank you
very much. Why dont you go and kiss your own ass
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hell no
don't tell me what viticulture is thanks i know what it is thank you
very much. Why dont you go and kiss your own ass



Well, what did you want to know about viticulture?


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Don't worry you arent of any help to me
So get lost


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Don't worry you arent of any help to me
So get lost



You aren't of any help to yourself. Remember your original message? Here it
is, in case you were hoping nobody noticed how dumb it was:

"hey. can anyone here help me with viticulture?"


Help you with what, you twit?


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On Dec 2, 9:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"josi" wrote in message

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Don't worry you arent of any help to me
So get lost


You aren't of any help to yourself. Remember your original message? Here it
is, in case you were hoping nobody noticed how dumb it was:

"hey. can anyone here help me with viticulture?"

Help you with what, you twit?


Hey, I have to agree with Josi on this one. She just asked a simple
question and did not get a nice answer in return. It's not like she
was posting spam or being impolite. Personally, i would have
responded, but I don't have any experience in that area. I'm wish
that people could ask questions without having to worry that they may
receive condescending remarks for their efforts.

That's my 2 cents.

~Tad
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"josi" wrote in message

Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude


We have 2,000 grape plants so I could give you some help on some aspects of
viticulture, BUT, you didn't mention where you live and since posters here
are from all round the world and we can't give advice without knowing
something about your climate, aspect, planting area etc or what you want to
know about viticulture, why would anyone bother? Either put some thought
into the question about the sort of advice you are really seeking or go to a
library or try google.


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"Tad" wrote in message
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On Dec 2, 9:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"josi" wrote in message

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Don't worry you arent of any help to me
So get lost


You aren't of any help to yourself. Remember your original message? Here
it
is, in case you were hoping nobody noticed how dumb it was:

"hey. can anyone here help me with viticulture?"

Help you with what, you twit?


Hey, I have to agree with Josi on this one. She just asked a simple
question and did not get a nice answer in return. It's not like she
was posting spam or being impolite. Personally, i would have
responded, but I don't have any experience in that area. I'm wish
that people could ask questions without having to worry that they may
receive condescending remarks for their efforts.

That's my 2 cents.

~Tad



Then you're as dumb as she is. Volumes have been written about viticulture.
Which aspect do YOU think she's asking about?


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FarmI wrote:
"josi" wrote in message

Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude


We have 2,000 grape plants so I could give you some help on some aspects of
viticulture, BUT, you didn't mention where you live and since posters here
are from all round the world and we can't give advice without knowing
something about your climate, aspect, planting area etc or what you want to
know about viticulture, why would anyone bother? Either put some thought
into the question about the sort of advice you are really seeking or go to a
library or try google.




Thank God, a thoughtful way of saying you're question is so vague it
defies answer.

No need to be overly rude to the OP. Their question was indeed vague but
I'd chock that up to inexperience with news groups.



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"Scott Hildenbrand" wrote in message
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FarmI wrote:
"josi" wrote in message

Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude


We have 2,000 grape plants so I could give you some help on some aspects
of viticulture, BUT, you didn't mention where you live and since posters
here are from all round the world and we can't give advice without
knowing something about your climate, aspect, planting area etc or what
you want to know about viticulture, why would anyone bother? Either put
some thought into the question about the sort of advice you are really
seeking or go to a library or try google.



Thank God, a thoughtful way of saying you're question is so vague it
defies answer.

No need to be overly rude to the OP. Their question was indeed vague but
I'd chock that up to inexperience with news groups.


That's a difference of opinion, I guess. My opinion is that the OP does the
exact same thing in face to face discussions. It has nothing to do with
newsgroups. There's no reason to believe she's different because this is a
newsgroup.


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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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FarmI wrote:


Either put some thought
into the question about the sort of advice you are really seeking or
go to a
library or try google.


Thank God, a thoughtful way of saying you're question is so vague it
defies answer.


No need to be overly rude to the OP. Their question was indeed vague but
I'd chock that up to inexperience with news groups.


Nobody gets to adulthood without learning that even simple requests
like "can you give me directions " always has to be qualified with a
destination. And, few internet virgins find their way to newsgroups
first, before learning there are websites and search engines.

OTOH, such fecklessly inadequate queries are frequently used by
trolls to stir up rows among other posters about who was rude etc.

Janet



It's reminiscent of a real classic from rec.food.cooking, a year or two ago.

Subject line: Can I make lasagna at home?
Body of message: How?


Not a clue as to whether it wanted to know how to make the finished dish, or
the noodles themselves. The OP never returned, but that didn't prevent a
bunch of responses from kindhearted saps who assumed they knew what the
question was.


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On Dec 3, 5:51 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Dec 2, 9:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"josi" wrote in message


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Don't worry you arent of any help to me
So get lost


You aren't of any help to yourself. Remember your original message? Here
it
is, in case you were hoping nobody noticed how dumb it was:


"hey. can anyone here help me with viticulture?"


Help you with what, you twit?


Hey, I have to agree with Josi on this one. She just asked a simple
question and did not get a nice answer in return. It's not like she
was posting spam or being impolite. Personally, i would have
responded, but I don't have any experience in that area. I'm wish
that people could ask questions without having to worry that they may
receive condescending remarks for their efforts.


That's my 2 cents.


~Tad


Then you're as dumb as she is. Volumes have been written about viticulture.
Which aspect do YOU think she's asking about?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I don't know what aspect of viticulture the OP was interested in. I
think people are right that the original question was too vague.
However, why not start with the assumption that the OP may be
inexperienced in posting questions, rather than jumping to the
conclusion that it's an attempt to stir other people up?

I like that other people have asked for more specifics. It gives the
OP a chance to rephrase her original question, and also get some
answers. We're here to share and learn right? Not to mock others for
what they don't know.

~Tad
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josi wrote:

Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude


And you are obtuse. I've been around grapes for 30 years, mostly the
wine making end. What do you want to know?
--

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Scott Hildenbrand" wrote in message
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FarmI wrote:
"josi" wrote in message

Thanks for the kind words... maybe next time you guys can be nicer.
not the only one asking questions here.
People don't appreciate being spoken to like you guys did (Val and
JoeSpareBedroom)
You guys are very rude

We have 2,000 grape plants so I could give you some help on some aspects
of viticulture, BUT, you didn't mention where you live and since posters
here are from all round the world and we can't give advice without
knowing something about your climate, aspect, planting area etc or what
you want to know about viticulture, why would anyone bother? Either put
some thought into the question about the sort of advice you are really
seeking or go to a library or try google.



Thank God, a thoughtful way of saying you're question is so vague it
defies answer.

No need to be overly rude to the OP. Their question was indeed vague but
I'd chock that up to inexperience with news groups.


That's a difference of opinion, I guess. My opinion is that the OP does the
exact same thing in face to face discussions. It has nothing to do with
newsgroups. There's no reason to believe she's different because this is a
newsgroup.



JSB you were a little harsh. Yes more thought could have, should have, been
put into the question but give the OP a chance. We really don't know anything
about him/her, could be a person who has reason to not know how to ask.

David


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