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"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its
becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small cans
of
dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can
opener
as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've tried
one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog food
can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best. Some
last
a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are 2
common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the
geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those
failures
is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes
beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and bending
the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem with
the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at least
that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what are
you
folks using? How long has it been used?

We have an Oster electric that works quite well. Been in use about 6
months and works like new. Before, I used to tell my wife that we can
put men on the moon but cannot make a decent can opener

Frank


I'm getting myself one of the OXO manuals when I spot one next. Don't
know
the price but it is a dream to use. Used my cousins to open 10 cans of
cranberry sauce and it was painless on these old hands.

BUT - have you thought about one of the under the cabinet ones? Mine is
ancient and still works great!

C


Live near Wimberley, TX. Closest places are Ace Hardware, Dollar
General, a
Feed store, and a grocery store. At Ace, I did find an OXO Goodgrips
model
Model# 30081. Has built-in lock that locks when closing, just turn the
handle to open. Price: $14.97. Unconditional warranty. Could not find
any
Swingaway mentioned by others. Talking manual can openers. Remainder
that
I've found locally are all the junk 1 buck can openers I've all already
tried.

Closest big box store is 17 miles away. Not worthwhile to drive 34 miles
round trip for a can opener.

My dogs are getting skittish as they aren't getting their regular canned
dog
food in the a.m. mixed with chew bones on the bottom of the bowl. Think
I'll try the OXO model mentioned for hopes of a good can opener, or,
giggles
for my fruitless search at worst.

Dave


I loved the OXO I used on Thanksgiving. Just buy it. Make the dogs happy.

C


Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.

Normally, I slide out the contents, wack off with a knife in one bowl, then
slide the remaining contents into the 2nd bowl.
Dave


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On 12/8/07 9:54 AM, in article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/6/07 7:20 AM, in article
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/4/07 8:14 AM, in article
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"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its
becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small cans
of
dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can
opener
as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've tried
one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog food
can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best. Some
last
a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are 2
common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the
geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those
failures
is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes
beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and bending
the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem with
the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at least
that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what are
you
folks using? How long has it been used?

We have an Oster electric that works quite well. Been in use about 6
months and works like new. Before, I used to tell my wife that we can
put men on the moon but cannot make a decent can opener

Frank


I'm getting myself one of the OXO manuals when I spot one next. Don't
know
the price but it is a dream to use. Used my cousins to open 10 cans of
cranberry sauce and it was painless on these old hands.

BUT - have you thought about one of the under the cabinet ones? Mine is
ancient and still works great!

C


Live near Wimberley, TX. Closest places are Ace Hardware, Dollar
General, a
Feed store, and a grocery store. At Ace, I did find an OXO Goodgrips
model
Model# 30081. Has built-in lock that locks when closing, just turn the
handle to open. Price: $14.97. Unconditional warranty. Could not find
any
Swingaway mentioned by others. Talking manual can openers. Remainder
that
I've found locally are all the junk 1 buck can openers I've all already
tried.

Closest big box store is 17 miles away. Not worthwhile to drive 34 miles
round trip for a can opener.

My dogs are getting skittish as they aren't getting their regular canned
dog
food in the a.m. mixed with chew bones on the bottom of the bowl. Think
I'll try the OXO model mentioned for hopes of a good can opener, or,
giggles
for my fruitless search at worst.

Dave


I loved the OXO I used on Thanksgiving. Just buy it. Make the dogs happy.

C


Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.

Normally, I slide out the contents, wack off with a knife in one bowl, then
slide the remaining contents into the 2nd bowl.
Dave



Good luck with it.....have you tried using a church key to open the bottom
to air?

http://www.just-for-openers.org/Church-Key.html

(second set of pictures)

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Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.


Ice pick or sharp, small screwdriver.

Kay, who prefers Swingaways and is still using one ca. 1973.


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"Dioclese" wrote:

Okay, got the OXO. �The dogs are happy. �OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. �I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. �Vacuum problem..


Same problem with Spam... church key.

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In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 12/8/07 9:54 AM, in article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/6/07 7:20 AM, in article
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/4/07 8:14 AM, in article
,
"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its
becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small cans
of
dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can
opener
as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've tried
one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog food
can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best. Some
last
a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are 2
common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the
geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those
failures
is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes
beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and bending
the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem with
the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at least
that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what are
you
folks using? How long has it been used?

We have an Oster electric that works quite well. Been in use about 6
months and works like new. Before, I used to tell my wife that we can
put men on the moon but cannot make a decent can opener

Frank


I'm getting myself one of the OXO manuals when I spot one next. Don't
know
the price but it is a dream to use. Used my cousins to open 10 cans of
cranberry sauce and it was painless on these old hands.

BUT - have you thought about one of the under the cabinet ones? Mine is
ancient and still works great!

C


Live near Wimberley, TX. Closest places are Ace Hardware, Dollar
General, a
Feed store, and a grocery store. At Ace, I did find an OXO Goodgrips
model
Model# 30081. Has built-in lock that locks when closing, just turn the
handle to open. Price: $14.97. Unconditional warranty. Could not find
any
Swingaway mentioned by others. Talking manual can openers. Remainder
that
I've found locally are all the junk 1 buck can openers I've all already
tried.

Closest big box store is 17 miles away. Not worthwhile to drive 34 miles
round trip for a can opener.

My dogs are getting skittish as they aren't getting their regular canned
dog
food in the a.m. mixed with chew bones on the bottom of the bowl. Think
I'll try the OXO model mentioned for hopes of a good can opener, or,
giggles
for my fruitless search at worst.

Dave


I loved the OXO I used on Thanksgiving. Just buy it. Make the dogs happy.

C


Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.

Normally, I slide out the contents, wack off with a knife in one bowl, then
slide the remaining contents into the 2nd bowl.
Dave



Good luck with it.....have you tried using a church key to open the bottom
to air?

http://www.just-for-openers.org/Church-Key.html

(second set of pictures)


Can you imagine the amount of protest, if this was called a Mosque key?
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Billy

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"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/8/07 9:54 AM, in article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/6/07 7:20 AM, in article
,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/4/07 8:14 AM, in article
,
"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its
becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small
cans
of
dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can
opener
as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've
tried
one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog
food
can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best. Some
last
a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are 2
common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the
geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those
failures
is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes
beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and
bending
the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem
with
the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at least
that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what
are
you
folks using? How long has it been used?

We have an Oster electric that works quite well. Been in use about 6
months and works like new. Before, I used to tell my wife that we
can
put men on the moon but cannot make a decent can opener

Frank


I'm getting myself one of the OXO manuals when I spot one next. Don't
know
the price but it is a dream to use. Used my cousins to open 10 cans of
cranberry sauce and it was painless on these old hands.

BUT - have you thought about one of the under the cabinet ones? Mine
is
ancient and still works great!

C


Live near Wimberley, TX. Closest places are Ace Hardware, Dollar
General, a
Feed store, and a grocery store. At Ace, I did find an OXO Goodgrips
model
Model# 30081. Has built-in lock that locks when closing, just turn the
handle to open. Price: $14.97. Unconditional warranty. Could not
find
any
Swingaway mentioned by others. Talking manual can openers. Remainder
that
I've found locally are all the junk 1 buck can openers I've all already
tried.

Closest big box store is 17 miles away. Not worthwhile to drive 34
miles
round trip for a can opener.

My dogs are getting skittish as they aren't getting their regular
canned
dog
food in the a.m. mixed with chew bones on the bottom of the bowl.
Think
I'll try the OXO model mentioned for hopes of a good can opener, or,
giggles
for my fruitless search at worst.

Dave


I loved the OXO I used on Thanksgiving. Just buy it. Make the dogs
happy.

C


Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.

Normally, I slide out the contents, wack off with a knife in one bowl,
then
slide the remaining contents into the 2nd bowl.
Dave



Good luck with it.....have you tried using a church key to open the bottom
to air?

http://www.just-for-openers.org/Church-Key.html

(second set of pictures)


J.C. (no pun intended). Haven't seen one of those in decades. Such an
opener, primary use when I was young was opening juice cans. If you were
desperate, without a bonafind can opener, you could also use it in
repetition to open a can. Looks like I'll have to get an oldie but goodie
to complete the job. Another tool in the kitchen drawer.

Speaking of cans, have noticed that many canners are making unstackable
cans. Won't interlock the bottom with the top, making stacking a balancing
affair. I like to keep my pantry well stocked with canned goods.
Rained/snowed/iced in and so forth. When's the noise from all the
newfangled stuff gonna stop. Gettin' worse, not better.
Dave


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Good luck with it.....have you tried using a church key to open the bottom
to air?

http://www.just-for-openers.org/Church-Key.html

(second set of pictures)


Can you imagine the amount of protest, if this was called a Mosque key?



Do they lock mosques?

Snicker!

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On 12/9/07 12:46 AM, in article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/8/07 9:54 AM, in article
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/6/07 7:20 AM, in article
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/4/07 8:14 AM, in article
,
"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its
becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small
cans
of
dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can
opener
as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've
tried
one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog
food
can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best. Some
last
a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are 2
common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the
geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those
failures
is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes
beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and
bending
the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem
with
the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at least
that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what
are
you
folks using? How long has it been used?

We have an Oster electric that works quite well. Been in use about 6
months and works like new. Before, I used to tell my wife that we
can
put men on the moon but cannot make a decent can opener

Frank


I'm getting myself one of the OXO manuals when I spot one next. Don't
know
the price but it is a dream to use. Used my cousins to open 10 cans of
cranberry sauce and it was painless on these old hands.

BUT - have you thought about one of the under the cabinet ones? Mine
is
ancient and still works great!

C


Live near Wimberley, TX. Closest places are Ace Hardware, Dollar
General, a
Feed store, and a grocery store. At Ace, I did find an OXO Goodgrips
model
Model# 30081. Has built-in lock that locks when closing, just turn the
handle to open. Price: $14.97. Unconditional warranty. Could not
find
any
Swingaway mentioned by others. Talking manual can openers. Remainder
that
I've found locally are all the junk 1 buck can openers I've all already
tried.

Closest big box store is 17 miles away. Not worthwhile to drive 34
miles
round trip for a can opener.

My dogs are getting skittish as they aren't getting their regular
canned
dog
food in the a.m. mixed with chew bones on the bottom of the bowl.
Think
I'll try the OXO model mentioned for hopes of a good can opener, or,
giggles
for my fruitless search at worst.

Dave


I loved the OXO I used on Thanksgiving. Just buy it. Make the dogs
happy.

C


Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.

Normally, I slide out the contents, wack off with a knife in one bowl,
then
slide the remaining contents into the 2nd bowl.
Dave



Good luck with it.....have you tried using a church key to open the bottom
to air?

http://www.just-for-openers.org/Church-Key.html

(second set of pictures)


J.C. (no pun intended). Haven't seen one of those in decades. Such an
opener, primary use when I was young was opening juice cans. If you were
desperate, without a bonafind can opener, you could also use it in
repetition to open a can. Looks like I'll have to get an oldie but goodie
to complete the job. Another tool in the kitchen drawer.

I use one all the time to open certain things

Speaking of cans, have noticed that many canners are making unstackable
cans. Won't interlock the bottom with the top, making stacking a balancing
affair. I like to keep my pantry well stocked with canned goods.
Rained/snowed/iced in and so forth. When's the noise from all the
newfangled stuff gonna stop. Gettin' worse, not better.
Dave


Supposedly, that is to eliminate seams that can deteriorate over time. I
stack pyramid style now.

Cheryl

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Billy wrote:

Can you imagine the amount of protest, if this was called a Mosque key?


Sure there were once keys to open a mosque, and inside you're find a
muslim: http://www.geocities.com/jscraton/spam.jpg



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Sheldon wrote:

Billy wrote:

Can you imagine the amount of protest, if this was called a Mosque key?


Sure there were once keys to open a mosque, and inside you're find a
muslim: http://www.geocities.com/jscraton/spam.jpg


Shelly, you are a waste of space.
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Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small cans of dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can opener as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've tried one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog food can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best. Some last a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are 2 common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those failures is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and bending the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem with the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at least that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what are you
folks using? How long has it been used?

Swingline manual can opener. Have had one I bought in Colorado for 28
years, bought a new one a few years ago, just for back up. Took the
older one (which is the same exactly) and it opened 15 gallon cans today
just fine at my new job. It opens small cans of dog food or cat food or
people food just as easily. and is made to do heavy duty work. IMO

madgardener
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"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/9/07 12:46 AM, in article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/8/07 9:54 AM, in article
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/6/07 7:20 AM, in article
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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/4/07 8:14 AM, in article
,
"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Dioclese wrote:
Something's buggin me. Rather insignificant at first. Now, its
becoming a
problem. Its the manual can opener. I regularly open two small
cans
of
dog
food a day, people food less often regurlarly. Use a manual can
opener
as I
have small acreage on the countertop. In the past 2 years I've
tried
one
electric initially that couldn't hold most cans including the dog
food
can
in place to cut the top. So, I figured manual would be best.
Some
last
a
couple of months, some don't work right at the get-go. There are
2
common
failures. The cutting wheel bends at the axis point, AND/OR, the
geared
friction wheel fails to turn the can. Less common during those
failures
is
the handle cover falls off. Also, the closing of the handles goes
beyond
its intended closure to maintain hold of the can; twisting and
bending
the
closing axis point of the handle fulcrum point. The only problem
with
the
standard all-metal type is that it won't do all can sizes, at
least
that's
what I've found.

Before I jump to the 15 dollar range for a manual can opener, what
are
you
folks using? How long has it been used?

We have an Oster electric that works quite well. Been in use about
6
months and works like new. Before, I used to tell my wife that we
can
put men on the moon but cannot make a decent can opener

Frank


I'm getting myself one of the OXO manuals when I spot one next.
Don't
know
the price but it is a dream to use. Used my cousins to open 10 cans
of
cranberry sauce and it was painless on these old hands.

BUT - have you thought about one of the under the cabinet ones? Mine
is
ancient and still works great!

C


Live near Wimberley, TX. Closest places are Ace Hardware, Dollar
General, a
Feed store, and a grocery store. At Ace, I did find an OXO Goodgrips
model
Model# 30081. Has built-in lock that locks when closing, just turn
the
handle to open. Price: $14.97. Unconditional warranty. Could not
find
any
Swingaway mentioned by others. Talking manual can openers.
Remainder
that
I've found locally are all the junk 1 buck can openers I've all
already
tried.

Closest big box store is 17 miles away. Not worthwhile to drive 34
miles
round trip for a can opener.

My dogs are getting skittish as they aren't getting their regular
canned
dog
food in the a.m. mixed with chew bones on the bottom of the bowl.
Think
I'll try the OXO model mentioned for hopes of a good can opener, or,
giggles
for my fruitless search at worst.

Dave


I loved the OXO I used on Thanksgiving. Just buy it. Make the dogs
happy.

C


Okay, got the OXO. The dogs are happy. OXO will not penetrate bottom
of
this specific dog food can, like the cheap can openers did. I like to
puncture bottom so the dog food slides out easily. Vacuum problem.

Normally, I slide out the contents, wack off with a knife in one bowl,
then
slide the remaining contents into the 2nd bowl.
Dave



Good luck with it.....have you tried using a church key to open the
bottom
to air?

http://www.just-for-openers.org/Church-Key.html

(second set of pictures)


J.C. (no pun intended). Haven't seen one of those in decades. Such an
opener, primary use when I was young was opening juice cans. If you were
desperate, without a bonafind can opener, you could also use it in
repetition to open a can. Looks like I'll have to get an oldie but
goodie
to complete the job. Another tool in the kitchen drawer.

I use one all the time to open certain things

Speaking of cans, have noticed that many canners are making unstackable
cans. Won't interlock the bottom with the top, making stacking a
balancing
affair. I like to keep my pantry well stocked with canned goods.
Rained/snowed/iced in and so forth. When's the noise from all the
newfangled stuff gonna stop. Gettin' worse, not better.
Dave


Supposedly, that is to eliminate seams that can deteriorate over time. I
stack pyramid style now.

Cheryl


Will keep the pyramid thing in mind next time I restock the canned goods.

Canned good are good for a year or 2 per drop dead date on can labels. So,
I can't see the seam thing as valid reason for modifying the bottom of the
can. And, doesn't explain why they can't make the top interlock with the
bottom of same identical can irregardless. Think we been flim-flammed for
economical can sake. Don't think its gonna stop.
Dave


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On Dec 10, 7:05�am, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
On 12/10/07 12:26 AM, in article ,"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

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Supposedly, that is to eliminate seams that can deteriorate over time. I
stack pyramid style now.


Cheryl


Will keep the pyramid thing in mind next time I restock the canned goods..


Canned good are good for a year or 2 per drop dead date on can labels. �So,
I can't see the seam thing as valid reason for modifying the bottom of the
can. �And, doesn't explain why they can't make the top interlock with the
bottom of same identical can irregardless. �Think we been flim-flammed for
economical can sake. �Don't think its gonna stop.
Dave


Like I said - "supposedly". �I suspect that extruding the can bottom up
saves a ton of money and materials. Less metal and less welding. Design
could have been friendlier.


The new extruded cans are far less costly to manufacture and are a
better sealed product. The design is friendly, all you need is a can
opener that works... what's the point of getting a second chance on
the opposite end with the same old lousy can opener. Anyway, more and
more cans are being made with pull tops.

http://www.silgancontainers.com/products_cans_2pDI.asp

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