I have pruned some trees in my garden and I am trying to find out what the TAR treatment is called to seal the severed branches
All help will be appreciated

Gringo

Very Very Very good question! Thank you for asking the question. Wound
dressing does not stall problems or stop problems associated with flush cut
pruning - meaning the removal of the branch collar where the branch meets
the trunk. I know of no peer reviewed published articles in international
journals supporting the use or benefits of use of wound dressing.

"Microorganisms have their picnics and parties under wound dressings."
"When a tree is wounded, you should not treat only the wound but the entire
tree."
Shigo 1999

I agree with the latter

Wound Dressing
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._dressing.html

Making correct pruning cuts is the key to healthy results. Wound dressing
does nothing to help the tree seal the wound.
If you left some stubs than there might be hope.
Check this section on pruning. See targets.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html

Best book to get is TREE PRUNING A worldwide photo guide by Alex L. Shigo.
Your library should have it or can get it. They sell their own books at
www.shigoandtrees.com Lucid information.

I often wish wound dressing worked when I make a bad cut. It just does not.
The story is that you can do anything you want to the tree and all you have
to do is paint it black and it is a forgiveness of sin. It just don't work
that way!


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.


"Gringo" wrote in message
...

I have pruned some trees in my garden and I am trying to find out what
the TAR treatment is called to seal the severed branches
All help will be appreciated




--
Gringo

On 9/18/2008 3:59 PM, Gringo wrote:
I have pruned some trees in my garden and I am trying to find out what
the TAR treatment is called to seal the severed branches
All help will be appreciated


Tar-based sealing paints can cause die-back. I use white glue (Elmer's,
Willhold, GluBird). The cuts seem to heal much more quickly than with
tar-based paint.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at http://www.rossde.com/garden/

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:59:55 +0100, Gringo
wrote:


I have pruned some trees in my garden and I am trying to find out what
the TAR treatment is called to seal the severed branches
All help will be appreciated

Generally no tar should be used. The guideline is to prune during the
dormancy period for deciduous trees.

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Gringo
I know of no peer reviewed published articles in international journals
supporting the use or benefits of use of wound dressing.

Other than the one pointed out to you from Texas A & M, yard boy.

"Microorganisms have their picnics and parties under wound dressings."
"When a tree is wounded, you should not treat only the wound but the
entire tree."
Shigo 1999

I am beginning to think that Shigo was as full of shit as you, yard boy.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Yard Boy
www.tregedictionary.com
and
http://homge.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and
other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.
g

"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Gringo
I know of no peer reviewed published articles in international journals
supporting the use or benefits of use of wound dressing.

Other than the one pointed out to you from Texas A & M, yard boy.

"Microorganisms have their picnics and parties under wound dressings."
"When a tree is wounded, you should not treat only the wound but the
entire tree."
Shigo 1999

I am beginning to think that Shigo was as full of shit as you, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, that your practice is deforestation. Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation claiming sound
treatment for landowners investment. You claim to be a consulting forester.
Please consult and provide the data for your practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

In reality Don Staples claims to be a "consulting forester" while he refuses
to define specifically what that is at his website at:
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm Don't belive it
because I said it, because you see it for your self.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.

"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:46:48 -0500, "D. Staples"
wrote:

Other than the one pointed out to you from Texas A & M, yard boy.

I am beginning to think that Shigo was as full of shit as you, yard boy.

If you go back and read it, he says "internationally" peer reviewed.
He's full of [snip]. I hope oak wilt doesn't take out his trees. He
should take a ride down around here and see the level of death from
insect vectors on open, PROPERLY CUT ([snip]hole) live oaks.

Prove that by showing some dissections with pith visible as well as the pit
protection zone or pith plug.
Otherwise its just your word against others that dissected trees. I support
those that dissect trees.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.






I've seen the value of homes being effected financially upwards of
50,000 dolars because the live oaks are infected and dying.

I never heard of Shigo, but I'm sure he wouldn't want this douche bag
representing him. Ningkompoop, he is.

Victoria

"If the present and the future
were contingent on the past,
then the present and the future
would have existed in the past."

-Lama Tsongkhapa

http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/

"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:12:58 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:


"Jangchub" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:46:48 -0500, "D. Staples"
wrote:

Other than the one pointed out to you from Texas A & M, yard boy.

I am beginning to think that Shigo was as full of shit as you, yard
boy.

If you go back and read it, he says "internationally" peer reviewed.
He's full of shit. I hope oak wilt doesn't take out his trees. He
should take a ride down around here and see the level of death from
insect vectors on open, PROPERLY CUT (asshole) live oaks.


Prove that by showing some dissections with pith visible as well as the
pit
protection zone or pith plug.
Otherwise its just your word against others that dissected trees. I
support
those that dissect trees.

I already provided peer reviewed, land grant university written,
biological resources for how and why we treat live oaks the way we do
in TX. You never read it. I know one of the premier arborists in
America; Don Gardener. I can assure you he's dissected trees and
straw dogs like you who claim to know things, but don't. You think if
you use big terms people will have more respect for you? That's so
pithy.

Victoria



I require dissections with pith present.

"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:20:48 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:


I require dissections with pith present.



You have plenty of pith to work with.

Victoria

I WILL NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN FOREVER FOR EVER


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.

On Sep 20, 8:45*am, Jangchub wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:14:34 -0400, "symplastless"



wrote:

"Jangchub" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:20:48 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:

I require dissections with pith present.

You have plenty of pith to work with.

Victoria

I WILL NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN FOREVER FOR EVER

Forever, ever bobeather, banana fanna foefeather, fee fi mo metherk,
ever, forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *

Victoria

"If the present and the future
were contingent on the past,
then the present and the future
would have existed in the past."

-Lama Tsongkhapa

http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/


I think you really pithed him off



Chris

symplastless wrote:
"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

Blow it your ass, yard boy, and go back to your day job of collecting
garbage.

symplastleess wrote:
"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:12:58 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:





I require dissections with pith present.




You require nothing, loser, you are a garbage collector, acting like a
trained professional. Your act is exposed, daily, with the crap you post.

Chris wrote:
On Sep 20, 8:45 am, Jangchub wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:14:34 -0400, "symplastless"



wrote:

"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:20:48 -0400, "symplastless"
wrote:
I require dissections with pith present.
You have plenty of pith to work with.
Victoria
I WILL NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN FOREVER FOR EVER
Forever, ever bobeather, banana fanna foefeather, fee fi mo metherk,
ever, forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Victoria

"If the present and the future
were contingent on the past,
then the present and the future
would have existed in the past."

-Lama Tsongkhapa

http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/


I think you really pithed him off



Chris

A real pither, that is.

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...
symplastless wrote:
"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

Blow it your ass, yard boy, and go back to your day job of collecting
garbage.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

In reality Don Staples claims to be a "consulting forester" while he refuses
to define specifically what that is at his website at:
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm

PLEASE DEFINE WHAT YOU ARE. "CONSULTING FORESTER" YOUR LINK IS DEAD.
@ http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm


Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, that your practice is deforestation. Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation claiming sound
treatment for landowners investment. You claim to be a consulting forester.
Please consult and provide the data for your practice.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.

Please provide the page and branch amount area your abstracts can be begin stating that you access backwoods bloom by your deliver and apology work. You claim I am a artifice while all forth you advance deforestation claiming sound treatment for landowners investment. You affirmation to be a consulting forester.