.... wait 24 hours.

Celcius degree temps.

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Forecasts for Southern Ontario issued by Environment Canada
at 3.30 PM EST Thursday 26 February 2009
for tonight Friday and Friday night.

Huron - Perth.

Tonight : Cloudy. Rain beginning this evening.
Low plus 3 with temperature rising to 8 by morning.

Friday : Rain changing to light snow in the afternoon.
Temperature falling to minus 7 in the afternoon.

Friday night : Clearing in the evening.
Low minus 20. Wind chill minus 29.
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"hubops" wrote in message
news

... wait 24 hours.

Celcius degree temps.

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Forecasts for Southern Ontario issued by Environment Canada
at 3.30 PM EST Thursday 26 February 2009
for tonight Friday and Friday night.

Huron - Perth.

Tonight : Cloudy. Rain beginning this evening.
Low plus 3 with temperature rising to 8 by morning.

Friday : Rain changing to light snow in the afternoon.
Temperature falling to minus 7 in the afternoon.

Friday night : Clearing in the evening.
Low minus 20. Wind chill minus 29.
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Saw the TV news this morning. N. Dakota has similar temps for today you
mention. Yet, forecast high for Brownsville, TX is 93F for today. The
latter is not typical for late winter for Brownsville, TX. Most of TX is
unseasonably warm as is the rest of the earth.
--
Dave

CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?

In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

No, I don't make over 250K, far from it, and don't want your sympathy
irregardless.

O.K., then I'll criticize your English.

Irregardless, with its illogical negative prefix, is widely heard,
perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as:
irrespective. Irregardless is avoided by careful users of English. Use
regardless to mean 'without regard or consideration for' or
'nevertheless': | I go walking every day regardless of season or weather.

Some poorly backed CDOs are what in effect killed the economy.
Isn't it convenient that the new bankruptcy laws (2 years ago) allow for
bankruptcy on yachts and second (or third) homes, but not on principal
residences. Somebody saw today's crisis coming but could our
representatives in congress sound the alert to their constituencies? Of
course not.
--

Billy
Democrat and Republican Leaders Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

Why? Politicians use this messy jargon everyday. Both in written
legislation, and political campaign promises. No one seems to care, so I
thought it was acceptable.

As far as spelling a word that is misleading by its commonly accepted
surface defintion, you're right. MS Word spell check won't let me use
"irregardless". No, I don't use any form of spell or grammar check.

If that's all you got is a spell check, I'll bow out now.

--
Dave

CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?
"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

No, I don't make over 250K, far from it, and don't want your sympathy
irregardless.

O.K., then I'll criticize your English.

Irregardless, with its illogical negative prefix, is widely heard,
perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as:
irrespective. Irregardless is avoided by careful users of English. Use
regardless to mean 'without regard or consideration for' or
'nevertheless': | I go walking every day regardless of season or weather.

Some poorly backed CDOs are what in effect killed the economy.
Isn't it convenient that the new bankruptcy laws (2 years ago) allow for
bankruptcy on yachts and second (or third) homes, but not on principal
residences. Somebody saw today's crisis coming but could our
representatives in congress sound the alert to their constituencies? Of
course not.
--

Billy
Democrat and Republican Leaders Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:07:03 -0600, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Why? Politicians use this messy jargon everyday. Both in written
legislation, and political campaign promises. No one seems to care, so I
thought it was acceptable.

As far as spelling a word that is misleading by its commonly accepted
surface defintion, you're right. MS Word spell check won't let me use
"irregardless". No, I don't use any form of spell or grammar check.

If that's all you got is a spell check, I'll bow out now.


All that matters is the reader understands what was said. I've known
people without a HS diploma who can communicate better than a
well-educated individual or a Usenet grammer cop. I'm not about to
proof read my posts like I would in a business letter. In east TN
there are many words spoken not understood elsewhere, perhaps that's a
good thing.

In article ,
Phisherman wrote:

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:07:03 -0600, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Why? Politicians use this messy jargon everyday. Both in written
legislation, and political campaign promises. No one seems to care, so I
thought it was acceptable.

As far as spelling a word that is misleading by its commonly accepted
surface defintion, you're right. MS Word spell check won't let me use
"irregardless". No, I don't use any form of spell or grammar check.

If that's all you got is a spell check, I'll bow out now.


All that matters is the reader understands what was said. I've known
people without a HS diploma who can communicate better than a
well-educated individual or a Usenet grammer cop. I'm not about to
proof read my posts like I would in a business letter. In east TN
there are many words spoken not understood elsewhere, perhaps that's a
good thing.

Sort of reminds me of regional dialects. Adds flavor to the mix which
I think has been sterilized by television. Mayberry aside )
Once read that in China 6 mile distance away folks could not speak to
each other. However they had the same written language that worked.
This over a few thousand years.
Try reading Canterbury tales .

Bill Look at the " Works of Rabelais" the only book I own that had a
book worm. )) Neat to see old stuff. Heady...


http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Franc...l-Studium/dp/0
520064011/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236272860&sr=1-2

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article ,
Bill wrote:

In article ,
Phisherman wrote:

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:07:03 -0600, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Why? Politicians use this messy jargon everyday. Both in written
legislation, and political campaign promises. No one seems to care, so I
thought it was acceptable.

As far as spelling a word that is misleading by its commonly accepted
surface defintion, you're right. MS Word spell check won't let me use
"irregardless". No, I don't use any form of spell or grammar check.

If that's all you got is a spell check, I'll bow out now.


All that matters is the reader understands what was said. I've known
people without a HS diploma who can communicate better than a
well-educated individual or a Usenet grammer cop. I'm not about to
proof read my posts like I would in a business letter. In east TN
there are many words spoken not understood elsewhere, perhaps that's a
good thing.

Sort of reminds me of regional dialects. Adds flavor to the mix which
I think has been sterilized by television. Mayberry aside )
Once read that in China 6 mile distance away folks could not speak to
each other. However they had the same written language that worked.
This over a few thousand years.
Try reading Canterbury tales .

Bill Look at the " Works of Rabelais" the only book I own that had a
book worm. )) Neat to see old stuff. Heady...


http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Franc...l-Studium/dp/0
520064011/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236272860&sr=1-2

Sorry meant to post this with previous post.

Bill

"Product Description
Rip-roaring and rib-tickling, François Rabelais's irreverent story of
the giant Gargantua, his giant son Pantagruel, and their companion
Panurge is a classic of the written word. This complete translation by
Donald Frame, helpfully annotated for the nonspecialist, is a
masterpiece in its own right, bringing to twentieth-century English all
the exuberance and invention of the original sixteenth-century French. A
final part containing all the rest of Rabelais's known writings,
including his letters, supplements the five books traditionally known as
Gargantua and Pantagruel.
This great comic narrative, written in hugely popular installments over
more than two decades, was unsparingly satirical of scholarly pomposity
and the many abuses of religious, legal, and political power. The books
were condemned at various times by the Sorbonne and narrowly escaped
being banned. Behind Rabelais's obvious pleasure in lampooning effete
erudition and the excesses of society is the humanist's genuine love of
knowledge and belief in the basic goodness of human nature. The bawdy
wit and uninhibited zest for life that characterize his unlikely trio of
travelers have delighted readers and inspired other writers ever since
the exploits of Gargantua and Pantagruel first appeared. "

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article ,
Bill wrote:

Once read that in China 6 mile distance away folks could not speak to
each other. However they had the same written language that worked.

Same thing in Holland (Netherlands). Every thirty of forty miles or so
(north to south), the locals have to slow down to be understood, so I've
been told.
--

Billy
Democrat and Republican Leaders Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Why? Politicians use this messy jargon everyday. Both in written
legislation, and political campaign promises. No one seems to care, so I
thought it was acceptable.

As far as spelling a word that is misleading by its commonly accepted
surface defintion, you're right. MS Word spell check won't let me use
"irregardless". No, I don't use any form of spell or grammar check.

If that's all you got is a spell check, I'll bow out now.

--
Dave

CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?

You forgot Glass-Siegel and greed, and I have plenty more, but this is a
gardening forum, so happy gardening.
--

Billy
Democrat and Republican Leaders Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Why? Politicians use this messy jargon everyday. Both in written
legislation, and political campaign promises. No one seems to care, so I
thought it was acceptable.

As far as spelling a word that is misleading by its commonly accepted
surface defintion, you're right. MS Word spell check won't let me use
"irregardless". No, I don't use any form of spell or grammar check.

If that's all you got is a spell check, I'll bow out now.

--
Dave

CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?

You forgot Glass-Siegel and greed, and I have plenty more, but this is a
gardening forum, so happy gardening.
--

Billy
Democrat and Republican Leaders Behind Bars
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

Using pots this year to cut water consumption, and cut down on weeding crap.
Exceptional drought here.
--
Dave

Another fallacy, the home.
Its primary purpose WAS to provide shelter, and allow the dweller to proceed
a life within it by their own choices. The first a need, the second a
right.
Somewhere along the way, its become primary purpose as a financial security
instead.

In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Using pots this year to cut water consumption, and cut down on weeding crap.
Exceptional drought here.
--
Dave

Another fallacy, the home.
Its primary purpose WAS to provide shelter, and allow the dweller to proceed
a life within it by their own choices. The first a need, the second a
right.
Somewhere along the way, its become primary purpose as a financial security
instead.

Not everyone owns their own home. Some of us rent or lease. The fact
that a home can be a commodity isn't the owners fault. That is another
game. Not being able to declare bankruptcy on your principal residence
but is permissible on a second or third home, or a yacht, shows the hand
of those who are truly culpable (You can thank Joe Biden for this one.).

Finally got my seeds in germinating. If I run into a problem this year,
I will immediately run to the nursery for starters.
--

Billy
There are no lobbyists for cover crops and crop rotation. Why?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Using pots this year to cut water consumption, and cut down on weeding
crap.
Exceptional drought here.
--
Dave

Another fallacy, the home.
Its primary purpose WAS to provide shelter, and allow the dweller to
proceed
a life within it by their own choices. The first a need, the second a
right.
Somewhere along the way, its become primary purpose as a financial
security
instead.

Not everyone owns their own home. Some of us rent or lease. The fact
that a home can be a commodity isn't the owners fault. That is another
game. Not being able to declare bankruptcy on your principal residence
but is permissible on a second or third home, or a yacht, shows the hand
of those who are truly culpable (You can thank Joe Biden for this one.).

Finally got my seeds in germinating. If I run into a problem this year,
I will immediately run to the nursery for starters.
--

Billy
There are no lobbyists for cover crops and crop rotation. Why?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net

The leased or rental home has always been a business, its inhabitants
subject to the restrictions of the lease. And for the owner of such, it is
always an investment. And it too has become a financial instrument.

In general, buyers of homes have increasingly used their homes for equity
loans, reverse mortgages and so forth. That part of the equation is the
consumer's "fault", along with the banks.

Even though some investors may mislead otherwise, the house/home is not a
commodity. Gold, silver, and copper are examples of commodities.

Another week will tell, seeds have been planted for a week today. The temps
have been increasing the past couple of days, tough to keep the soil surface
moist like this.
--
Dave

Another fallacy, the home.
Its primary purpose WAS to provide shelter, and allow the dweller to proceed
a life within it by their own choices. The first a need, the second a
right.
Somewhere along the way, its become primary purpose as a financial security
instead.