I have a 10m x 5m soakaway, which at the moment is lying fallow. I can't cover it with grass because we can't take the mower over it and we can't plant anything with deep roots because of the pipes. But I would like it to look attractive.
I have an enormous garden so don't want to have to spend a lot of time weeding this area - it is not actually part of the garden, just very visible.
The area is well-drained and the climate here (mid-France) is mild but we do get frost in the winter.
Can anyone suggest what I should plant?

On 8/20/2009 9:11 AM, Sspider wrote:
I have a 10m x 5m soakaway, which at the moment is lying fallow. I
can't cover it with grass because we can't take the mower over it and
we can't plant anything with deep roots because of the pipes. But I
would like it to look attractive.
I have an enormous garden so don't want to have to spend a lot of time
weeding this area - it is not actually part of the garden, just very
visible.
The area is well-drained and the climate here (mid-France) is mild but
we do get frost in the winter.
Can anyone suggest what I should plant?

Cinquefoil (Potentilla neumanniana, also known as P. verna). Spreads to
form a low mat. Has small yellow flowers on and off, except in the
winter.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

Thank you, David. I shall try that. Does it spread fast? About how many plants would I need?

On 8/23/2009 3:33 PM, Sspider wrote:
Thank you, David. I shall try that. Does it spread fast? About how
many plants would I need?

David E. Ross;862030 Wrote:
On 8/20/2009 9:11 AM, Sspider wrote:-
I have a 10m x 5m soakaway, which at the moment is lying fallow. I
can't cover it with grass because we can't take the mower over it and
we can't plant anything with deep roots because of the pipes. But I
would like it to look attractive.
I have an enormous garden so don't want to have to spend a lot of
time
weeding this area - it is not actually part of the garden, just very
visible.
The area is well-drained and the climate here (mid-France) is mild
but
we do get frost in the winter.
Can anyone suggest what I should plant?-

Cinquefoil (Potentilla neumanniana, also known as P. verna). Spreads
to
form a low mat. Has small yellow flowers on and off, except in the
winter.

Plant them about 30-45 cm apart. Plant them now, to get roots
established while the soil is still warm from summer (even if the air is
cooling towards fall).

Cinquefoil can become invasive. They spread with runners, which should
be trimmed from the edges of the area. They sometimes reseed, starting
new plants outside of the area. I have a flower and shrub bed with
cinquefoil growing as a ground cover.

About every 2-3 months, I trim the edges with grass shears and dig
seedlings out of the surrounding walkway (decomposed granite) with a
paring knife. Since I am retired and enjoy puttering in my garden,
keeping the cinquefoil under control is not a major burden on me.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

It sounds exactly what I am looking for. I shall start a cinquefoil hunt immediately (Starting with looking up the French name for it )

Thank you again.

On 8/24/2009 2:23 PM, Sspider wrote:
It sounds exactly what I am looking for. I shall start a cinquefoil
hunt immediately (Starting with looking up the French name for it )

Thank you again.


I thought "cinquefoil" was French, meaning "five leaf". The little leaf
is divided into five parts.

You might try the botanical name -- Potentilla neumanniana (also known
as P. verna) -- which should be the same in all nations and languages.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

I have found the French name: "Petite Potentille" and I have hunted high and low with no result. Does anyone know where I can get plants (in France) or seeds (anywhere)?
I do know that it is also known as 'Spring cinquefoil'.