This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts. thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for the garden?

Yes No

2. What size is your garden?

4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+

3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never

4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra parts when you need to)?

Yes No

5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+

6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out

7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times of the day?

Yes No

8. How old are you?

20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+

Kaiser fuel wrote:
This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering
system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts.
thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for
the garden?

Yes No+

No. I notice that you are not at all interested in my reason why. Odd.


2. What size is your garden?

4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+

Much bigger


3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never

When it is necessary, which is not some particular time interval.


4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra parts
when you need to)?

Yes No

Watering systems are already extensible, why would you not have that
feature?


5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+


$0 since I have no idea what the capabilities of the system are.

6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out

In what part of the world are watering systems a fashion statement? Are you
harbouring a fetish for black polypipe? A warning: polypipe doesn't carry
water when it is kinky.


7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times
of the day?

Yes No

No, that presupposes the garden needs watering.


8. How old are you?

20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+

Too old to have much patience with such a silly survey.

You haven't mentioned any reason why one might want a solar powered watering
system. Consider where water comes from. For city dwellers in developed
countries (most readers here) it comes out of a tap at enough pressure to be
delivered through a passive watering system. So that means a high
proportion (my guess 90%) of readers have no need for your product.

For others water comes from a well, dam, tank, or a natural body of water.
Such people probably have pumping and delivery systems to get the water to
the garden but they might be interested in using solar energy to power the
pump. Why would they do that? Well, it _might_ be cheaper or more
sustainable, or be available where there is no electricity. Would your
system suit any of them? From your description there is no way of knowing.
So who are you going to get interested in this? I don't know.


David

From these results I can deduce that the majority of the people surveyed were miserable gits who enjoy taking time to crush the dreams of aspiring product designers. This will influence my product greatly and it was very useful to future product development of the product. *NOT*

Kaiser fuel wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;939096']Kaiser fuel wrote:-
This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering
system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts.
thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for
the garden?

Yes No+-

No. I notice that you are not at all interested in my reason why.
Odd.
-

2. What size is your garden?
-
4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+--

Much bigger
-

3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never-

When it is necessary, which is not some particular time interval.
-

4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra
parts when you need to)?

Yes No-

Watering systems are already extensible, why would you not have that
feature?
-

5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+
-

$0 since I have no idea what the capabilities of the system are.
-
6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out-

In what part of the world are watering systems a fashion statement?
Are you
harbouring a fetish for black polypipe? A warning: polypipe doesn't
carry
water when it is kinky.
-

7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times
of the day?

Yes No-

No, that presupposes the garden needs watering.
-

8. How old are you?
-
20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+--

Too old to have much patience with such a silly survey.

You haven't mentioned any reason why one might want a solar powered
watering
system. Consider where water comes from. For city dwellers in
developed
countries (most readers here) it comes out of a tap at enough
pressure to be
delivered through a passive watering system. So that means a high
proportion (my guess 90%) of readers have no need for your product.

For others water comes from a well, dam, tank, or a natural body of
water.
Such people probably have pumping and delivery systems to get the
water to
the garden but they might be interested in using solar energy to
power the
pump. Why would they do that? Well, it _might_ be cheaper or more
sustainable, or be available where there is no electricity. Would
your

system suit any of them? From your description there is no way of
knowing.
So who are you going to get interested in this? I don't know.


David

From these results I can deduce that the majority of the people
surveyed were miserable gits who enjoy taking time to crush the
dreams of aspiring product designers. This will influence my product
greatly and it was very useful to future product development of the
product. *NOT*

I understand you feel bad being told your baby is ugly - get used to it - if
you are going to expect agreement with your pre-conceived ideas you are
going to get that a lot. If you are immune to learning something from a
person who actually waters large gardens in a demanding environment and has
built watering systems then this product doesn't have any future to develop.

For example Q3 shows you don't understand at least one basic concept of
watering. Why would that information not influence you?

The smart thing would be to engage with those who criticise and revise your
thinking accordingly not complain because their feedback doesn't match your
dream. You can take your bat and ball and go home or remove the blinkers
and try again. You decide.

David

David Hare-Scott wrote:
Kaiser fuel wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;939096']Kaiser fuel wrote:-
This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering
system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts.
thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for
the garden?

Yes No+-

No. I notice that you are not at all interested in my reason why.
Odd.
-

2. What size is your garden?
-
4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+--

Much bigger
-

3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never-

When it is necessary, which is not some particular time interval.
-

4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra
parts when you need to)?

Yes No-

Watering systems are already extensible, why would you not have that
feature?
-

5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+
-

$0 since I have no idea what the capabilities of the system are.
-
6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out-

In what part of the world are watering systems a fashion statement?
Are you
harbouring a fetish for black polypipe? A warning: polypipe doesn't
carry
water when it is kinky.
-

7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times
of the day?

Yes No-

No, that presupposes the garden needs watering.
-

8. How old are you?
-
20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+--

Too old to have much patience with such a silly survey.

You haven't mentioned any reason why one might want a solar powered
watering
system. Consider where water comes from. For city dwellers in
developed
countries (most readers here) it comes out of a tap at enough
pressure to be
delivered through a passive watering system. So that means a high
proportion (my guess 90%) of readers have no need for your product.

For others water comes from a well, dam, tank, or a natural body of
water.
Such people probably have pumping and delivery systems to get the
water to
the garden but they might be interested in using solar energy to
power the
pump. Why would they do that? Well, it _might_ be cheaper or more
sustainable, or be available where there is no electricity. Would
your

system suit any of them? From your description there is no way of
knowing.
So who are you going to get interested in this? I don't know.


David

From these results I can deduce that the majority of the people
surveyed were miserable gits who enjoy taking time to crush the
dreams of aspiring product designers. This will influence my product
greatly and it was very useful to future product development of the
product. *NOT*

I understand you feel bad being told your baby is ugly - get used to
it - if you are going to expect agreement with your pre-conceived
ideas you are going to get that a lot. If you are immune to
learning something from a person who actually waters large gardens in
a demanding environment and has built watering systems then this
product doesn't have any future to develop.
For example Q3 shows you don't understand at least one basic concept
of watering. Why would that information not influence you?

The smart thing would be to engage with those who criticise and
revise your thinking accordingly not complain because their feedback
doesn't match your dream. You can take your bat and ball and go home
or remove the blinkers and try again. You decide.

I didn't bother to answer because I couldn't even figure out what a "solar
powered watering system" would do. Does it create the water, pump the water, or
just turn it on?

"Kaiser fuel" wrote in message
...

'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;939096']Kaiser fuel wrote:-
This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering
system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts.
thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for
the garden?

Yes No+-

No. I notice that you are not at all interested in my reason why.
Odd.
-

2. What size is your garden?
-
4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+--

Much bigger
-

3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never-

When it is necessary, which is not some particular time interval.
-

4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra parts
when you need to)?

Yes No-

Watering systems are already extensible, why would you not have that
feature?
-

5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+
-

$0 since I have no idea what the capabilities of the system are.
-
6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out-

In what part of the world are watering systems a fashion statement? Are
you
harbouring a fetish for black polypipe? A warning: polypipe doesn't
carry
water when it is kinky.
-

7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times
of the day?

Yes No-

No, that presupposes the garden needs watering.
-

8. How old are you?
-
20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+--

Too old to have much patience with such a silly survey.

You haven't mentioned any reason why one might want a solar powered
watering
system. Consider where water comes from. For city dwellers in
developed
countries (most readers here) it comes out of a tap at enough pressure
to be
delivered through a passive watering system. So that means a high
proportion (my guess 90%) of readers have no need for your product.

For others water comes from a well, dam, tank, or a natural body of
water.
Such people probably have pumping and delivery systems to get the water
to
the garden but they might be interested in using solar energy to power
the
pump. Why would they do that? Well, it _might_ be cheaper or more
sustainable, or be available where there is no electricity. Would your

system suit any of them? From your description there is no way of
knowing.
So who are you going to get interested in this? I don't know.


David

From these results I can deduce that the majority of the people surveyed
were miserable gits who enjoy taking time to crush the dreams of
aspiring product designers. This will influence my product greatly and
it was very useful to future product development of the product. *NOT*

"These results"????? An answer from one person turns into 'these
results'???? You certainly are having dreams, but not useful dreams.

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
David Hare-Scott wrote:
Kaiser fuel wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;939096']Kaiser fuel wrote:-
This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering
system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts.
thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for
the garden?

Yes No+-

No. I notice that you are not at all interested in my reason why.
Odd.
-

2. What size is your garden?
-
4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+--

Much bigger
-

3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never-

When it is necessary, which is not some particular time interval.
-

4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra
parts when you need to)?

Yes No-

Watering systems are already extensible, why would you not have that
feature?
-

5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+
-

$0 since I have no idea what the capabilities of the system are.
-
6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out-

In what part of the world are watering systems a fashion statement?
Are you
harbouring a fetish for black polypipe? A warning: polypipe doesn't
carry
water when it is kinky.
-

7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times
of the day?

Yes No-

No, that presupposes the garden needs watering.
-

8. How old are you?
-
20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+--

Too old to have much patience with such a silly survey.

You haven't mentioned any reason why one might want a solar powered
watering
system. Consider where water comes from. For city dwellers in
developed
countries (most readers here) it comes out of a tap at enough
pressure to be
delivered through a passive watering system. So that means a high
proportion (my guess 90%) of readers have no need for your product.

For others water comes from a well, dam, tank, or a natural body of
water.
Such people probably have pumping and delivery systems to get the
water to
the garden but they might be interested in using solar energy to
power the
pump. Why would they do that? Well, it _might_ be cheaper or more
sustainable, or be available where there is no electricity. Would
your

system suit any of them? From your description there is no way of
knowing.
So who are you going to get interested in this? I don't know.


David

From these results I can deduce that the majority of the people
surveyed were miserable gits who enjoy taking time to crush the
dreams of aspiring product designers. This will influence my product
greatly and it was very useful to future product development of the
product. *NOT*

I understand you feel bad being told your baby is ugly - get used to
it - if you are going to expect agreement with your pre-conceived
ideas you are going to get that a lot. If you are immune to
learning something from a person who actually waters large gardens in
a demanding environment and has built watering systems then this
product doesn't have any future to develop.
For example Q3 shows you don't understand at least one basic concept
of watering. Why would that information not influence you?

The smart thing would be to engage with those who criticise and
revise your thinking accordingly not complain because their feedback
doesn't match your dream. You can take your bat and ball and go home
or remove the blinkers and try again. You decide.

I didn't bother to answer because I couldn't even figure out what a "solar
powered watering system" would do. Does it create the water, pump the
water, or just turn it on?

Ditto. I immediatley thought the 'solar powered watering system' might be a
solar pump on a dam, but then they aren't at all new or unusual so why would
anyone want answers about that existing product already developed. When I
read the rest of the questions I lost interest once I saw the tiny sizes of
gardens. Anything designed for a garden that tiny wouldn't be of any use to
my garden.

On 10/9/2011 5:51 PM, Bob F wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote:
Kaiser fuel wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;939096']Kaiser fuel wrote:-
This is just a quick questionnaire about a solar powered watering
system i am hoping to make. please just write your answers in posts.
thank you for your time.

1. Would you consider purchasing a solar powered watering system for
the garden?

Yes No+-

No. I notice that you are not at all interested in my reason why.
Odd.
-

2. What size is your garden?
-
4m2 5m2-10m2 11m2-15m2 15m2+--

Much bigger
-

3. How often do you water the garden?

Everyday Every other day Twice a week

Once a week Never-

When it is necessary, which is not some particular time interval.
-

4. Would you like the system to be modular (you can add on extra
parts when you need to)?

Yes No-

Watering systems are already extensible, why would you not have that
feature?
-

5. How much would you be willing to pay for the product?

£20-30 £31-40 £41-50 £50+
-

$0 since I have no idea what the capabilities of the system are.
-
6. Would you like it to blend in with the garden or stand out?

Blend in Stand out-

In what part of the world are watering systems a fashion statement?
Are you
harbouring a fetish for black polypipe? A warning: polypipe doesn't
carry
water when it is kinky.
-

7. Would you like the system to water automatically at certain times
of the day?

Yes No-

No, that presupposes the garden needs watering.
-

8. How old are you?
-
20 21-30 31-40 41-60 61-70 70+--

Too old to have much patience with such a silly survey.

You haven't mentioned any reason why one might want a solar powered
watering
system. Consider where water comes from. For city dwellers in
developed
countries (most readers here) it comes out of a tap at enough
pressure to be
delivered through a passive watering system. So that means a high
proportion (my guess 90%) of readers have no need for your product.

For others water comes from a well, dam, tank, or a natural body of
water.
Such people probably have pumping and delivery systems to get the
water to
the garden but they might be interested in using solar energy to
power the
pump. Why would they do that? Well, it _might_ be cheaper or more
sustainable, or be available where there is no electricity. Would
your

system suit any of them? From your description there is no way of
knowing.
So who are you going to get interested in this? I don't know.


David

From these results I can deduce that the majority of the people
surveyed were miserable gits who enjoy taking time to crush the
dreams of aspiring product designers. This will influence my product
greatly and it was very useful to future product development of the
product. *NOT*

I understand you feel bad being told your baby is ugly - get used to
it - if you are going to expect agreement with your pre-conceived
ideas you are going to get that a lot. If you are immune to
learning something from a person who actually waters large gardens in
a demanding environment and has built watering systems then this
product doesn't have any future to develop.
For example Q3 shows you don't understand at least one basic concept
of watering. Why would that information not influence you?

The smart thing would be to engage with those who criticise and
revise your thinking accordingly not complain because their feedback
doesn't match your dream. You can take your bat and ball and go home
or remove the blinkers and try again. You decide.

I didn't bother to answer because I couldn't even figure out what a "solar
powered watering system" would do. Does it create the water, pump the water, or
just turn it on?


I'm hoping for create the water. Both solar powered pumps (which I have
no need of) and drip irrigation parts (and already have) are widely
available.

Jeff

On 10/9/2011 5:51 PM, Bob F wrote:
snip...

or remove the blinkers and try again. You decide.

I didn't bother to answer because I couldn't even figure out what a "solar
powered watering system" would do. Does it create the water, pump the water, or
just turn it on?



I already have a solar powered watering system. I call it rain.

right for everyone who doesn't understand.

Solar panels power a pump which draws water from a water butt (rain storage device) and then uses that to water the plants via a drip feed or sprinkler system. the pump will also have a timer attached so you can set it to water at certain points during the day.

You all seem rather grumpy on this forum so I have included a picture of a cat and a dog to cheer everyone up

..../\„,„/\.........//^ ^\\
...( =';'= ).......(/(_•_)\)
.../*♥♥*\........._/''*''\_
.(.|.|..|.|.).....(,,,)^(,,)

garden sizes are actually

16m2 25m2 - 100m2 121m2 - 225m2 225m2+

i made a mistake with my maths sorry :S

Kaiser fuel wrote:
right for everyone who doesn't understand.

Solar panels power a pump which draws water from a water butt (rain
storage device) and then uses that to water the plants via a drip feed
or sprinkler system. the pump will also have a timer attached so you
can set it to water at certain points during the day.


OK that's somewhat clearer. Why didn't you include this with the
questionaire?

None of this is new, if there isn't exactly what you describe available now
as a package you could buy all the components off the shelf without much
trouble.

So in what way is your solution sufficiently better than the existing
watering systems, what design elements will attract people to it?



You all seem rather grumpy on this forum so I have included a picture
of a cat and a dog to cheer everyone up


There are one or two here who are habitually sour tempered but nothing
extraordinary. If you think this is grumpy you are going to find meetings
with busy investors, sales managers and production managers hair curling.
They will not give you more than one chance to get it right. You are after
their money and they didn't get that money by giving it to people who cannot
explain what they are on about.

David

"Kaiser fuel" wrote in message
...

right for everyone who doesn't understand.

Solar panels power a pump which draws water from a water butt (rain
storage device) and then uses that to water the plants via a drip feed
or sprinkler system. the pump will also have a timer attached so you can
set it to water at certain points during the day.

I have already mentioned mentioned that your 'solar powered watering system'
might be a solar pump on a dam but that since such things already existed
and thus weren't new or unusual, there was little point in responding.

If you insert "water butt" where I used the word "dam", then my response
would stand. These systems already exist so there is no product to develop
but you could faff a bit round the edges but then most gardeners do that
anyway.

FarmI wrote:
"Kaiser fuel" wrote in
message ...

right for everyone who doesn't understand.

Solar panels power a pump which draws water from a water butt (rain
storage device) and then uses that to water the plants via a drip
feed or sprinkler system. the pump will also have a timer attached
so you can set it to water at certain points during the day.

I have already mentioned mentioned that your 'solar powered watering
system' might be a solar pump on a dam but that since such things
already existed and thus weren't new or unusual, there was little
point in responding.
If you insert "water butt" where I used the word "dam", then my
response would stand. These systems already exist so there is no
product to develop but you could faff a bit round the edges but then
most gardeners do that anyway.

My understanding of water butt is a small tank say 200 - 500 litres so the
power would not need to be as much as for a 5 megalitre dam.

D

On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:32:56 +0000, Kaiser fuel
wrote:


right for everyone who doesn't understand.

Solar panels power a pump which draws water from a water butt (rain
storage device) and then uses that to water the plants via a drip feed
or sprinkler system. the pump will also have a timer attached so you can
set it to water at certain points during the day.

You all seem rather grumpy on this forum so I have included a picture of
a cat and a dog to cheer everyone up


.... still very unclear.

1. are your solar panels producing electricity ?
( to power tiny DC pump motors ? )
( we have been-there-done-that for about 15 years )

or

2. are your solar panels somehow utilizing your
new radical patented differential pressure vacuum
sterling green friendly pseudo-gravitational fluid-flow
guaranteed for life H2O diversional aqua machine ?

.. just wondering about the little details.

John T.





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