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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Feb 9, 9:03*am, Elliott P wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote: If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed. It's REAL tough to get rid of! JAS Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all) of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all. However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica). This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass. All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica. -- David E. Ross Climate: *California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary David and others, I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery hehttp://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39 I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there. The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage. I'll take more when time and daylight allows.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ahh you admit a fox in the area. thus you have a wildlife preserve. and will require federal state local government approval. must catch and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements. plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met why not just leave this island of whatever alone? what ae you planning on doing with it? planting grass? thats just more grass to cut |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P
wrote: On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote: If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed. It's REAL tough to get rid of! JAS Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all) of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all. However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica). This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass. All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica. -- David E. Ross Climate: *California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary David and others, I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39 I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there. The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage. I'll take more when time and daylight allows. Your property looks completely overgrown with all kinds of vegetation. To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake out the roots. I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will pierce tractor tires. You have a lot of work to do over the next few years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season, probably take five years of constant attention. Consider yourself lucky it's not on a slope. After cutting it to the ground the first thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the entire perimeter, deep and wide. Once the bamboo is eradicated I suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. Anyone who plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile. http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/ou...rid-of-bamboo/ http://www.completebamboo.com/bamboo_removal.html |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Feb 9, 12:24*am, Gunner wrote:
On Feb 8, 2:43*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/7/12 8:26 PM, Harry K wrote: On Feb 7, 7:47 am, Gunner wrote: Bamboo is a grass so Roundup is not a very effective option. The first thing to be done is ID the type bamboo,it may not be a runner and the cure much easier. Talk to your county Extention agent, they will be able to direct you in the right direction and may have low cost options for you the land owner. ??? *Roundup works very well indeed on grass. *Dunno about bamboo but I don't see why it wouldn't work there as well. Harry K Roundup kills almost any plant. *Grass Getter, Poast, and similar grass-specific herbicides do not harm most broad-leaf plants. With both herbicids and insecticides, I tend to favor the kinds that are specific to the pest I'm trying to kill instead of killing everything in the neighborhood. *No, I'm not an organic gardener; I'm merely careful. -- David E. Ross Climate: *California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary Controlling Bamboo in Landscape Plantings by Dr. Joseph C. Neal, Weed Scientist Department of Horticultural Science North Carolina State University "Too often I receive the following plea: "My neighbor planted bamboo and now it is coming up all over my yard. I have tried to kill it and nothing seems to work!. What can I do?" Bamboo is one of the most difficult to control "escaped ornamentals." Once established, bamboo can take over landscapes, stream banks, and woodlands. I have seen bamboo shoots actually breaking though concrete driveways. Unfortunately, postemergence herbicides such as Roundup seem to only burn back the foliage, providing no real control. "- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Odd. I just googled it and your cite is the first on. All the others on page one say Roundup works fine...as would be expected as RU kills roots, not top growth. The tops die when they are no longer getting food. Harry K |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On 2/9/2012 9:27 AM, Harry K wrote:
.... Odd. I just googled it and your cite is the first on. All the others on page one say Roundup works fine...as would be expected as RU kills roots, not top growth. The tops die when they are no longer getting food. Glyphosate kills plants by inhibiting 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate synthase (EPSPS). EPSPS is a key enzyme in the shikimate biosynthetic pathway which is necessary for the production of the aromatic amino acids, auxin, phytoalexins, folic acid, lignin, plastoquinones and many other secondary products. There are plants that are resistant both naturally as well as genetically altered ("Roundup Ready (tm)" soybeans, etc.). There have been instances also of weeds becoming glyphosate-resistant where it has been used exclusively for weed control over a period of time. I'm not positive how effective it is on bamboo(s); I'm sure it would only be very effective on small new growth after a severe mowing if it is very useful at all. You might investigate Remedy (tm) as an alternative altho it may be restricted back east, I don't know...since I farm and have applicator's license I'm not up on just what homeowner can get otc... -- |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Feb 9, 7:27Â*am, Harry K wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:24Â*am, Gunner wrote: On Feb 8, 2:43Â*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/7/12 8:26 PM, Harry K wrote: On Feb 7, 7:47 am, Gunner wrote: Bamboo is a grass so Roundup is not a very effective option. The first thing to be done is ID the type bamboo,it may not be a runner and the cure much easier. Talk to your county Extention agent, they will be able to direct you in the right direction and may have low cost options for you the land owner. ??? Â*Roundup works very well indeed on grass. Â*Dunno about bamboo but I don't see why it wouldn't work there as well. Harry K Roundup kills almost any plant. Â*Grass Getter, Poast, and similar grass-specific herbicides do not harm most broad-leaf plants. With both herbicids and insecticides, I tend to favor the kinds that are specific to the pest I'm trying to kill instead of killing everything in the neighborhood. Â*No, I'm not an organic gardener; I'm merely careful. -- David E. Ross Climate: Â*California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary Controlling Bamboo in Landscape Plantings by Dr. Joseph C. Neal, Weed Scientist Department of Horticultural Science North Carolina State University "Too often I receive the following plea: "My neighbor planted bamboo and now it is coming up all over my yard. I have tried to kill it and nothing seems to work!. What can I do?" Bamboo is one of the most difficult to control "escaped ornamentals." Once established, bamboo can take over landscapes, stream banks, and woodlands. I have seen bamboo shoots actually breaking though concrete driveways. Unfortunately, postemergence herbicides such as Roundup seem to only burn back the foliage, providing no real control. "- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Odd. Â*I just googled it and your cite is the first on. Â*All the others on page one say Roundup works fine...as would be expected as RU kills roots, not Â*top growth. Â*The tops die when they are no longer getting food. Harry K. as would be expected as RU kills roots, not Â*top growth. I do not find this to be correct as dpb's post explains. . I do see where my statement is misleading, should have said is a type of grass that R/U control is not effective on. I do not believe R/U is even on label for bamboo. but do verify that. For further references see below: http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1614/WT-05-187.1; Weed Technology Published by: Weed Science Society of America Weed Technology 21(1):80-83. 2007 doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1614/WT-05-187.1 Controlling Bamboo (Phyllostachys Spp.) with Herbicides Mark A. Czarnota and Jeffrey Derr* "Bamboos are grass species that can escape cultivation and invade lawns, landscapes, and other areas. Limited information is available on ways to control invasive bamboo species. Greenhouse and field studies were initiated to determine the level of bamboo control provided by a single application of selected PRE and POST herbicides. Bamboo species included in the study were golden bamboo in greenhouse experiments and red-margined bamboo in field experiments. In greenhouse trials, MSMA, quinclorac, dithiopyr, clethodim, fenoxaprop, and sethoxydim did not control either species. Glyphosate, glufosinate, and fluazifop significantly reduced bamboo-shoot fresh weight, although regrowth occurred after a single application. In field trials, bamboo control with dichlobenil in the 2002 and 2004 experiments was less than 23%. For the study initiated in 2002, glyphosate and imazapyr provided 76% and 98% bamboo control, respectively, at 58 wk after treatment (WAT). By 161 WAT (approximately 3 yr after treatment), bamboo-control ratings were 40% with glyphosate and 85% with imazapyr. For the study initiated in 2004, at 61 WAT, glyphosate and imazapyr provided 46 and 88% control of bamboo, respectively." http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ag266: “Herbicides" "Considering the perennial nature of bamboo, the use of herbicide will often be needed to hasten and improve control. However,*** there are currently no herbicide labels that list bamboo as a controlled species*** (emphasis added) . But there are herbicides that are relatively effective on this weed. Both glyphosate (Roundup and others) and imazapyr (Arsenal and others), ***used at high rates*** ( emphasis added) , will control bamboo. Research has shown that for herbicides to be effective, the bamboo should be mowed or chopped and allowed to regrow to a height of approximately 3 feet, or until the leaves expand (Figure 2 Pic deleted). Glyphosate at a 5% solution or imazapyr as a 1% solution can then be applied directly to the leaves. It has been noted that imazapyr is more effective on bamboo than glyphosate. However, imazapyr has a great deal of foliar and soil activity and will potentially kill hardwood trees, shrubs, and all grasses if their roots extend into the vicinity of the application. Therefore, if the bamboo is growing near any desirable plant species, imazapyr should not be used. Glyphosate does not have soil activity and will only kill plants that are contacted with the spray solution. This makes glyphosate a more useful herbicide option for most areas where bamboo grows. It is important to note that one application of glyphosate will not eradicate bamboo. You will likely be required to mow and spray as many as 4 times for complete bamboo control to be achieved. Persistence is key when targeting this weed. Additionally, glyphosate comes in many different formulations and concentrations. The 5% solution (or 6 fl oz per gallon) refers to glyphosate formulated at a 41% concentration. If the glyphosate product you intend to use does not contain 41% active ingredient, then the application rate should be altered to accommodate this difference.†http://www.clemson.edu/extension/hgi...hgic2320.html; “A final, and often necessary, method of control for bamboo is the use of herbicides. A non-selective herbicide with the active ingredient glyphosate (e.g., Roundup Original, Eraser Systemic Weed & Grass Killer, Quick Kill Grass & Weed Killer, Bonide Kleenup Grass & Weed Killer, Hi-Yield Super Concentrate Killzall Weed & Grass, Maxide Super Concentrate 41% Weed & Grass Killer, and Southern States Grass & Weed Killer Concentrate) is the best option for homeowners. Glyphosate has very little residual soil activity and will only kill plants that receive direct contact. For glyphosate to be effective, the bamboo must be mowed or chopped and allowed to regrow until the new leaves expand. Glyphosate should then be applied to the leaves. Keep in mind that one application of glyphosate will not eradicate the bamboo infestation. It can potentially take two to three years to gain complete control. Do not apply these products directly to water or to areas where surface water is present. For bamboo control next to creeks, lake basins, wetlands or other water sources where spray drift will contact the water, choose a glyphosate product labeled for use near water, such as Eraser AQ, Rodeo, Pondmaster, Aquamaster or Aquapro. Aquatic formulations of glyphosate may be mixed with a non- ionic surfactant, such as Ortho X-77 or Southern Ag Surfactant for Herbicides, to improve control. When using herbicides, please be sure to follow all label instructions.†|
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Feb 9, 9:45*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P wrote: On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote: If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed. It's REAL tough to get rid of! JAS Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all) of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all. However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica). This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass. All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica. -- David E. Ross Climate: *California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary David and others, I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39 I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there. The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage. I'll take more when time and daylight allows. Your property looks completely overgrown with all kinds of vegetation. To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake out the roots. *I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will pierce tractor tires. *You have a lot of work to do over the next few years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season, probably take five years of constant attention. *Consider yourself lucky it's not on a slope. *After cutting it to the ground the first thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the entire perimeter, deep and wide. *Once the bamboo is eradicated I suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. *Anyone who plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile. *http://www.howtogetridofstuff..com/o..._removal.html- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - i guess you missed where the OP said theres utility lines and a septic tank in the bamboo area. Whats wrong with just leaving it grow? |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:21:03 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: On Feb 9, 9:45*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P wrote: On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote: If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed. It's REAL tough to get rid of! JAS Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all) of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all. However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica). This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass. All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica. -- David E. Ross Climate: *California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary David and others, I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39 I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there. The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage. I'll take more when time and daylight allows. Your property looks completely overgrown with all kinds of vegetation. To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake out the roots. *I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will pierce tractor tires. *You have a lot of work to do over the next few years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season, probably take five years of constant attention. *Consider yourself lucky it's not on a slope. *After cutting it to the ground the first thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the entire perimeter, deep and wide. *Once the bamboo is eradicated I suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. *Anyone who plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile. *http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/ou..._removal.html- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - i guess you missed where the OP said theres utility lines and a septic tank in the bamboo area. I guess you missed where the OP said there MIGHT BE utility lines and a septic in the bamboo area. |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P wrote:
I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39 No, you've got a real bamboo there; my guess from the photos is a Phyllostachys. Control methods he http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/node/324 http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/pubs...ic/bamboos.htm http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74142.html Watch carefully for spray drift. Desirable plants that get hit with Roundup/Rodeo can be rescued by immediate treatment with muddy water to bind glyphosate. My first inclination, seeing those photos, would be to consider brush hogging the area and then hand application of glyphosate to the new sprouts. I'm pretty sure that will work, but will require constant vigilance and respray for a couple of years. And yes, I will consider using carefully chosen chemicals, preferably applied in the most directed manner possible, for control of large weed infestations. Kay |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
On Feb 9, 9:22*am, bob haller wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03*am, Elliott P wrote: On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote: On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote: If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed. It's REAL tough to get rid of! JAS Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all) of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all. However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica). This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass. All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica. -- David E. Ross Climate: *California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary David and others, I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery hehttp://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39 I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there. The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage. I'll take more when time and daylight allows. ahh you admit a fox in the area. thus you have a wildlife preserve. and will require federal state local government approval. must catch and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements. plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met eye roll number 2 in this thread |
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On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
.... and will require federal state local government approval. must catch and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements. plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met eye roll number 2 in this thread Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... -- |
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On Feb 7, 9:21*am, N8N wrote:
On Feb 6, 4:00*pm, Evan wrote: On Feb 6, 11:54*am, Elliott P wrote: Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to restore the property, inside and out. Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear would probably not go over well with the neighborhood. The property is in Towson, Maryland. Thank you in advance. Are you allowed to clear cut the wooded/brush/bamboo area ? Is it considered a "wet land" ? You should check with your nearest conservation/environmental authorities to make sure you are allowed to cut all of that natural vegetation down without some kind of site plan/impact study done and having a permit hearing... Not saying that the OP doesn't need to do that (I've heard of dumber things) but bamboo has never been native to Maryland to my knowledge... *you'd think the enviro types would be happy to see it go. nate @Nate: It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or environmental/conservation authorities before you go about removing it on your own... The nativity of a species of plant doesn't impact its vital role as a means of erosion control and as a water absorber... Making major changes which effect erosion and water flow properties of most lands requires oversight -- it is the size of the area in which the OP seeks to modify that is really at issue... ~~ Evan |
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On Feb 10, 9:08*am, dpb wrote:
On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote: ... and will require federal state local government approval. must catch and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements. plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met eye roll number 2 in this thread Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. * Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... -- well my post was a joke, but one never knows, and using herbicides likely make it worse. i have some new K&T info but thats for another day........ |
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On 2/10/2012 11:13 AM, Evan wrote:
.... It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or environmental/conservation authorities before you go about removing it on your own... .... I'd think it far more likely to be on a noxious weed list _requiring_ control than the converse... -- |
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On Feb 10, 12:38*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:08*am, dpb wrote: On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote: ... and will require federal state local government approval. must catch and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements. plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met eye roll number 2 in this thread Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. * Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... -- well my post was a joke Then, nicely done! |
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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
Evan wrote:
On Feb 7, 9:21*am, N8N wrote: On Feb 6, 4:00*pm, Evan wrote: On Feb 6, 11:54*am, Elliott P wrote: Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to restore the property, inside and out. Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear would probably not go over well with the neighborhood. The property is in Towson, Maryland. Thank you in advance. Are you allowed to clear cut the wooded/brush/bamboo area ? Is it considered a "wet land" ? You should check with your nearest conservation/environmental authorities to make sure you are allowed to cut all of that natural vegetation down without some kind of site plan/impact study done and having a permit hearing... Not saying that the OP doesn't need to do that (I've heard of dumber things) but bamboo has never been native to Maryland to my knowledge... *you'd think the enviro types would be happy to see it go. nate @Nate: It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or environmental/conservation authorities before you go about removing it on your own... The nativity of a species of plant doesn't impact its vital role as a means of erosion control and as a water absorber... Making major changes which effect erosion and water flow properties of most lands requires oversight -- it is the size of the area in which the OP seeks to modify that is really at issue... Were it protected land; water shed, riparian, wetlands, etc, the owner would know by perusing the property survey or simply phoning the town clerk. Such information is generally on line too as it's public record... they'd be able to say if there is a septic or utility line buried. Absent a body of water on that piece of land I seriously doubt that stand of bamboo is in any way protected... I have a 1/2 pond that I mow right to the edge each fall and cut out most of the catails. I'd just hack that basmboo down and do whatever it takes within legality (chems/fire) to be rid of it. With the right equipment it shouldn't take very long to cut, chip, plow, and rake that small plot, no more than 4 eight hour days and like 40 gallons of diesel. If kept closely mowed whatever roots remain will die off within a couple three seasons, I seriously doubt any defolient is necessary, just keep mowing, even if twice a week... with my 7' mower I can mow an acre in 20 minutes. I mow 10 acres of lawn every week, when weather is dry I can do it all in one day, and I have several separate areas, and lots of edging, miles of edging. With my brush hog I can chop down a 4 acre wildflower meadow in about four hours, typically 4'-6' tall: http://i41.tinypic.com/18ndpg.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/15dto4h.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2cygs4o.jpg No problem with my finish mower either: http://i44.tinypic.com/25ujfgj.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/1177lom.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2pzy2s1.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2yn19xu.jpg After clearing wild turkeys have a feast: http://i44.tinypic.com/2134qps.jpg I can guarantee I'd have that bamboo gone in three days, all while in total A/C, dust-free comfort, with music blasting, wouldn't even work up a sweat. |
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