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Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked.
The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks |
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Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Helen Middlemas wrote:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass every where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. Concrete pavement. |
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Helen Middlemas writes:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. -- Dan Espen |
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Desperate Help To Kill Grass
On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote:
Helen Middlemas writes: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. -- Dan Espen I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Good luck. HB |
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Higgs Boson writes:
On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Helen Middlemas writes: I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Damn, some fool used GG and double spaced the entire thread. I've fixed the little part I'm replying too. Anyway, give us a break and DUMP GG. Yeah, I hesitated to mention Roundup. We have some posters here that get irrational. Nothing at all wrong with it when used for the right way. When a pro comes in to give you a new lawn, they kill the old lawn/weeds with Roundup. A little later they put in seeds, and new then nice new lawn. New grass grows, right after the terrible Roundup. Go figure. A membrane has to be something like landscape cloth. -- Dan Espen |
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On 3/24/2014 6:42 AM, Helen Middlemas wrote:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks In the U.S., grass-specific herbicides are available. I use Gress-Getter, which has the same active ingredient as Poast. The instructions inidcate mixing Grass-Getter with agricultural oil (a very light oil) as a wetting agent; but I use liquid soap instead. This is very effective where grass and non-grass plants grow together and I only want to kill the grass. The active ingredient is Sethoxydim: 2-[1-(ethoxyimino) butyl]-5-[2-(ethylthio)propyl]-3-hydroxy-2-cyclohexen-1-one -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
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Helen Middlemas wrote:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks As others have said use glyphosate. Roundup is the trade name of the original and (often) the most expensive version. Follow the directions for use and safety instructions carefully. The point about using it effectively is to use it when the plant is growing strongly so that firstly it is absorbed through the leaves and secondly it is carried down to the roots through the plant's system. Some people use it when the plant is dormant thinking when the plant is weaker it is vulnerable: wrong. Avoid spraying when rain is coming or before using a sprinkler as if you wash it off before it is absorbed it won't work, contact in itself does nothing. D |
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On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:15:55 PM UTC-4, mlcwa wrote:
Helen Middlemas writes: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. -- Dan Espen In my experience Roundup is not strong enough. Find something that says it will Kill All. MJ |
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Dan.Espen wrote:
I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. |
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Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. If find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss. Not really the same thing. Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something. -- Dan Espen |
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On 3/24/2014 10:26 PM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Helen Middlemas wrote: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks As others have said use glyphosate. Roundup is the trade name of the original and (often) the most expensive version. Follow the directions for use and safety instructions carefully. The point about using it effectively is to use it when the plant is growing strongly so that firstly it is absorbed through the leaves and secondly it is carried down to the roots through the plant's system. Some people use it when the plant is dormant thinking when the plant is weaker it is vulnerable: wrong. Avoid spraying when rain is coming or before using a sprinkler as if you wash it off before it is absorbed it won't work, contact in itself does nothing. I once read that, for vigorous perennial weeds, mix RoundUp slightly less strong than the label instructions. It does damage the entire plant not just the roots. By making it a bit weak, you ensure that it does indeed reach the roots instead of killing the path to the roots. For any spray or brush-on chemical, I always add liquid soap as a wetting agent. -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
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On 3/24/2014 12:15 PM, Dan.Espen wrote:
Helen Middlemas writes: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. Salt and strong acids can do a job on concrete. I suspect strong acetic acid and even vinegar would do it to. Tried and true methods like flame, Roundup and even covering completely from sun light would work. |
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