A contractor has built several low (less than 18 inches) stone walls on my
property. The gravity stacked wall receives no traffic and is doing fine.
A couple of the walls, however, either border a paver walk or provide a
riser for some stairs. These constructs are all mortared together, with the
mortar generally not visible (retracted from the front surface) so the walls
appear to be gravity stacked. They look terrific.

The stone used is called "colonial wall stone" around here (northern
virginia), is gray, predominantly flat.

The problem is that many of the stones that receive a footfall periodically
are difficult to keep secure. The contractor will (to this point) come back
and remortar --- but that is usually only temporary. My guess is that the
mortar shrinks on drying, and leaves just enough play so that any pressure
tips the stone and breaks the rest of the bond.

After that lengthy explanation, here's the question: is there some other
product (say, epoxy based) that will provide a VERY STRONG and PERMANENT
bond between the two pieces of stone??

Thanks.

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Rick Mugg wrote:

After that lengthy explanation, here's the question: is there some other
product (say, epoxy based) that will provide a VERY STRONG and PERMANENT
bond between the two pieces of stone??


Not a product, but perhaps something of interest anyways...
"Mending Wall" by Robert Frost:


SOMETHING there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,
One on a side. It comes to little mo
He is all pine and I am apple-orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbors."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down!" I could say "Elves" to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there,
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."

-Geoff

We've used something called Seamco Stone Bond epoxy. Each individual stone
was coated with the epoxy. It bonds each stone to the stones next to it
(above-below, also), and has been considerably stronger than concrete
mortar. Other epoxy-based products should work well, too. I think you've
got the right idea.

-- pelirojaroja



"Rick Mugg" wrote in message
...
A contractor has built several low (less than 18 inches) stone walls on my
property. The gravity stacked wall receives no traffic and is doing fine.
A couple of the walls, however, either border a paver walk or provide a
riser for some stairs. These constructs are all mortared together, with
the
mortar generally not visible (retracted from the front surface) so the
walls
appear to be gravity stacked. They look terrific.

The stone used is called "colonial wall stone" around here (northern
virginia), is gray, predominantly flat.

The problem is that many of the stones that receive a footfall
periodically
are difficult to keep secure. The contractor will (to this point) come
back
and remortar --- but that is usually only temporary. My guess is that the
mortar shrinks on drying, and leaves just enough play so that any pressure
tips the stone and breaks the rest of the bond.

After that lengthy explanation, here's the question: is there some other
product (say, epoxy based) that will provide a VERY STRONG and PERMANENT
bond between the two pieces of stone??

Thanks.

Thanks! I'm going to try and locate this product and give it a chance.

"pelirojaroja" wrote in message
.. .
We've used something called Seamco Stone Bond epoxy. Each individual
stone
was coated with the epoxy. It bonds each stone to the stones next to it
(above-below, also), and has been considerably stronger than concrete
mortar. Other epoxy-based products should work well, too. I think you've
got the right idea.

-- pelirojaroja



"Rick Mugg" wrote in message
...
A contractor has built several low (less than 18 inches) stone walls on
my
property. The gravity stacked wall receives no traffic and is doing
fine.
A couple of the walls, however, either border a paver walk or provide a
riser for some stairs. These constructs are all mortared together, with
the
mortar generally not visible (retracted from the front surface) so the
walls
appear to be gravity stacked. They look terrific.

The stone used is called "colonial wall stone" around here (northern
virginia), is gray, predominantly flat.

The problem is that many of the stones that receive a footfall
periodically
are difficult to keep secure. The contractor will (to this point) come
back
and remortar --- but that is usually only temporary. My guess is that
the
mortar shrinks on drying, and leaves just enough play so that any
pressure
tips the stone and breaks the rest of the bond.

After that lengthy explanation, here's the question: is there some other
product (say, epoxy based) that will provide a VERY STRONG and PERMANENT
bond between the two pieces of stone??

Thanks.

there is something like this I got at the place sells concrete blocks. he said the
blocks would break before the glue broke. Ingrid

"pelirojaroja" wrote:
We've used something called Seamco Stone Bond epoxy. Each individual stone
was coated with the epoxy. It bonds each stone to the stones next to it
(above-below, also), and has been considerably stronger than concrete
mortar. Other epoxy-based products should work well, too. I think you've
got the right idea.

-- pelirojaroja


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(Geoff Cashman) expounded:

"Mending Wall" by Robert Frost:

One of my favorite poets, thanx for posting it.

--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
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Ann wrote:
(Geoff Cashman) expounded:

"Mending Wall" by Robert Frost:

One of my favorite poets, thanx for posting it.


Well then, here's an anecdote for you...

My mother-in-law attended Occidental College decades ago.
She and a friend of hers were sitting on a bench that faced
180 degrees from a bench that was a couple of feet behind it.
They were talking about Robert Frost giving a talk later in
the day. One of them commented about his advancing age, and
whether it would impact his talk.

A older gentleman turned around at that point, and introduced
himself: "Ladies, allow me to introduce myself. Robert
permaFrost!"



-Geoff

(Geoff Cashman) expounded:

Well then, here's an anecdote for you...

My mother-in-law attended Occidental College decades ago.
She and a friend of hers were sitting on a bench that faced
180 degrees from a bench that was a couple of feet behind it.
They were talking about Robert Frost giving a talk later in
the day. One of them commented about his advancing age, and
whether it would impact his talk.

A older gentleman turned around at that point, and introduced
himself: "Ladies, allow me to introduce myself. Robert
permaFrost!"

That's neat! I would have loved to have met him. I like the one
about the bender of birches, it makes me remember being a little girl
climbing trees. Thanx for the memories.

--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
********************************

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Ann wrote:

That's neat! I would have loved to have met him. I like the one
about the bender of birches, it makes me remember being a little girl
climbing trees. Thanx for the memories.


I fear I must correct myself. I had the story essentially
right, so my wife tells me, but the players in the story
did not include my mother-in-law. My mother-in-law saw
the story in an alumni magazine she received shortly after
graduating. Oops

Also, the two characters were male, not female.

Oh well, the story is still fun

-Geoff