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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Bob G wrote:
That fellow's chickens, if he's provided them wind breaks, adequate roof so that they can stay dry, acceptable bedding materials, and decent food. Are just fine. Provided he assures they have or can get liquid water. A wild bird has the option of searching for water. A caged one does not. I provide them plenty of food. When it's warm, it is my leftovers, which I boil for them into a srt of a soup. When it's cold,m it is dry chicken feed. I also have a heated pet bowl where I insert the waterer. They live in a wind protecting shed. i In fact his chickens probably are quite happy to feel relatively safe from fox, coyote, wolf, bobcat, or cougar, etc. I take that back, as they've almost certainly never been wild, they've likely never had to learn to fear such wild and natural predators. And as he provides them plentiful food, if he does, for a critter, they're probably fat, happy, and sassy. Figuring they have a pretty easy life. As compared to their cousins. Most of whom will die very early in their lives, never seeing maturity at all. You should think before posting material which might cause others to wonder if yah know a damned thing about the animals you say you care so much about. Bob |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , simy1 wrote:
"BrownThumb" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I asked this question in misc.rural already, but want to run it by a few more people. Can meat/fur rabbits survive if they are being fed a diet that is mostly lawn clippings? I am upset that I waste so much time and lawn grass due to all this mandatory lawn trimming, and am thinking about having rabbits between months of May/October, or some such, and feed them lawn trimmings. will it work? I lived next door to rabbit-for-food owners for a coupla years. My understanding from people who raise other livestock is that grass is not varied enough for much of any animal, all by itself. I'd compost the grass, use it to grow other things, feed the other things to the rabbits. My neighbors fed the rabbits all of their edible vegetable kitchen clippings. My neighbor too, plus some hay, and the rabbits are fat and healthy. They are a large family who eat their veggies, so they produce about a gallon of scraps per day. Some of the stuff is obvious, like carrot tops, but the rabbits eat bread and apple, potato and banana peels too. They will happily eat discarded groceries, like half rotten apples or past -its-prime lettuce. Anything except orange peels or other weird stuff, like pineapple tops. They do love dandelions and clover from the yard, but do not care much for clippings, though I think they will eat them if they are the only green they get. If one is to serve them scraps and pesticide-free, very fresh grass clippings (cut grass goes bad in a day) perhaps a little high energy dry food (like oats) will make their diet balanced. Rabbits really are the cheapest meat to raise. Too bad the racoons like them as well. thanks for the info. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Bob G wrote:
That fellow's chickens, if he's provided them wind breaks, adequate roof so that they can stay dry, acceptable bedding materials, and decent food. Are just fine. Provided he assures they have or can get liquid water. A wild bird has the option of searching for water. A caged one does not. I provide them plenty of food. When it's warm, it is my leftovers, which I boil for them into a srt of a soup. When it's cold,m it is dry chicken feed. I also have a heated pet bowl where I insert the waterer. They live in a wind protecting shed. i In fact his chickens probably are quite happy to feel relatively safe from fox, coyote, wolf, bobcat, or cougar, etc. I take that back, as they've almost certainly never been wild, they've likely never had to learn to fear such wild and natural predators. And as he provides them plentiful food, if he does, for a critter, they're probably fat, happy, and sassy. Figuring they have a pretty easy life. As compared to their cousins. Most of whom will die very early in their lives, never seeing maturity at all. You should think before posting material which might cause others to wonder if yah know a damned thing about the animals you say you care so much about. Bob |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Fito wrote:
"Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... In article , Fito wrote: "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I already own two chickens and they are doing great, even in -5F weather, in an unheated shed. What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? I am not a chicken... What makes me think that they are doing great is the fact that they look nice and make 2 eggs per day. They have non-frozen water at all times because I bought a "heated pet bowl" at walmart fr them, and I insert my waterer into the bowl. It was on sale for $5, I cannot believe it. They also have plenty of bedding, which is just leaves from my trees that I collected in the fall. Non-frozen food, as well (not rock hard frozen, I would say). i Before reading any other posts about how I may be wrong, please accept my apologies for my sarcastic response. It just SEEMS too cold for them. I dont have chickens so what do I know. Fito these kinds of chickens are very cold resistant. I could not believe it myself at first. the important thing is not to have drafts. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , Bob G wrote:
That fellow's chickens, if he's provided them wind breaks, adequate roof so that they can stay dry, acceptable bedding materials, and decent food. Are just fine. Provided he assures they have or can get liquid water. A wild bird has the option of searching for water. A caged one does not. I provide them plenty of food. When it's warm, it is my leftovers, which I boil for them into a srt of a soup. When it's cold,m it is dry chicken feed. I also have a heated pet bowl where I insert the waterer. They live in a wind protecting shed. i In fact his chickens probably are quite happy to feel relatively safe from fox, coyote, wolf, bobcat, or cougar, etc. I take that back, as they've almost certainly never been wild, they've likely never had to learn to fear such wild and natural predators. And as he provides them plentiful food, if he does, for a critter, they're probably fat, happy, and sassy. Figuring they have a pretty easy life. As compared to their cousins. Most of whom will die very early in their lives, never seeing maturity at all. You should think before posting material which might cause others to wonder if yah know a damned thing about the animals you say you care so much about. Bob |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , simy1 wrote:
"BrownThumb" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I asked this question in misc.rural already, but want to run it by a few more people. Can meat/fur rabbits survive if they are being fed a diet that is mostly lawn clippings? I am upset that I waste so much time and lawn grass due to all this mandatory lawn trimming, and am thinking about having rabbits between months of May/October, or some such, and feed them lawn trimmings. will it work? I lived next door to rabbit-for-food owners for a coupla years. My understanding from people who raise other livestock is that grass is not varied enough for much of any animal, all by itself. I'd compost the grass, use it to grow other things, feed the other things to the rabbits. My neighbors fed the rabbits all of their edible vegetable kitchen clippings. My neighbor too, plus some hay, and the rabbits are fat and healthy. They are a large family who eat their veggies, so they produce about a gallon of scraps per day. Some of the stuff is obvious, like carrot tops, but the rabbits eat bread and apple, potato and banana peels too. They will happily eat discarded groceries, like half rotten apples or past -its-prime lettuce. Anything except orange peels or other weird stuff, like pineapple tops. They do love dandelions and clover from the yard, but do not care much for clippings, though I think they will eat them if they are the only green they get. If one is to serve them scraps and pesticide-free, very fresh grass clippings (cut grass goes bad in a day) perhaps a little high energy dry food (like oats) will make their diet balanced. Rabbits really are the cheapest meat to raise. Too bad the racoons like them as well. thanks for the info. i |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
if you put on a feather/down jacket, like chickens have, you could
also survive -5f. I have a 2.5 kid and we take him for 40min-1 hr walks in -5f. i In article , wrote: THEY ARE BIRDS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!! where do you think the little chickadees, cardinals, house sparrows, etc are finding heated trees????????? all they need is seed and open water (which for wild birds is a limiting factor) AND protection from predators and they are going to do fine in any kinda shed. Ingrid "Fito" wrote: What makes you think they are doing great? Try this experiment: Put on layers of clothing to replicate what you think the chickens are protected with. Go outside in sub-freezing weather. Sit in an unheated shed. Come back in the Spring and tell us that you did great and I will believe that the chickens are ok. Ok? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Quick Q regarding rabbits
In article , simy1 wrote:
"BrownThumb" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus3274" wrote in message ... I asked this question in misc.rural already, but want to run it by a few more people. Can meat/fur rabbits survive if they are being fed a diet that is mostly lawn clippings? I am upset that I waste so much time and lawn grass due to all this mandatory lawn trimming, and am thinking about having rabbits between months of May/October, or some such, and feed them lawn trimmings. will it work? I lived next door to rabbit-for-food owners for a coupla years. My understanding from people who raise other livestock is that grass is not varied enough for much of any animal, all by itself. I'd compost the grass, use it to grow other things, feed the other things to the rabbits. My neighbors fed the rabbits all of their edible vegetable kitchen clippings. My neighbor too, plus some hay, and the rabbits are fat and healthy. They are a large family who eat their veggies, so they produce about a gallon of scraps per day. Some of the stuff is obvious, like carrot tops, but the rabbits eat bread and apple, potato and banana peels too. They will happily eat discarded groceries, like half rotten apples or past -its-prime lettuce. Anything except orange peels or other weird stuff, like pineapple tops. They do love dandelions and clover from the yard, but do not care much for clippings, though I think they will eat them if they are the only green they get. If one is to serve them scraps and pesticide-free, very fresh grass clippings (cut grass goes bad in a day) perhaps a little high energy dry food (like oats) will make their diet balanced. Rabbits really are the cheapest meat to raise. Too bad the racoons like them as well. thanks for the info. i |
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