Hi , I'm from TN like madgardener too Not living there now
unfortunatly I miss it though. I lived in east TN as well knoxville
I used to love to go to the mountains Have you driven the dogwood
trail I did that with my mom all the time
I live in Pa now waaaahhhh I hate it too many people live near
philidelphia yuck
City of Brotherly Love " my goot yeah right I got car jacked last
month no joke.
can't wait to move I think I'm going to SC or, FL more gardening
options
I'm twenty six and two kids who love gardening
They want strawberries this year.
well not much else to tell I have a mary statue in my garden and I
live in a small town home but this year I want to plant a fruit tree i
think a cherry if any one has a recommendation for a good sweet
black cherry tree i'k appreciate one that fruits well.

my kids are seven and five
will before this is a novel I'll go thanks for the welcome
madgardener

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:19:24 -0500, Michelle
wrote:

Hi , I'm from TN like madgardener too Not living there now
unfortunatly I miss it though.

Glad to hear another gardener is from Tennessee. How does living in
Philly compare in climate? You have to realize that I grew up in the
suburbs of Nashville most of my life living just a few blocks from the
Cumberland River. It was a zone 6 a then before they had zones
defined, and being a new subdivisional area east of downtown
Nashville, I had the conveniences of city life but with a taste of
rural close by. Less than half a mile behind the road my elementary
school was on, was a hill that had a road going thru it and a farm.
Somewhere there is a rather neat picture of an old truck with a tree
growing outa the engine g

Just civilized enough to have bus service but the service ended at 10
week nights and 6 p.m. on Saturdays and NO service on Sundays. And
that was when service stations were closed on Sundays, as well as 99%
of the businesses. I remember how I felt when I moved to the surburbs
of Denver in 1978 and discovered the RTD ran every 10-15 minutes
guaranteed.........and had a radius of as far as BOULDER! When we
moved back to Nashville for good in 1983, I felt like I had gone back
in time. It took years for Nashville to catch up to what the West
already had. Talk about feeling like a bumpkin..........now when I
moved to Knoxville...........it was like looking at Nashville 20 years
ago......................................I still don't think Ktrans
has caught up to where Nashville was 10 years
ago..................sigh


I lived in east TN as well knoxville

I can't imagine what Knoxville was like years ago. I remember it a
little when I went to see Elton John during his Yellow brick road tour
back in 1975. What I vaguely remember is the streets were so steep we
were winded by the time we got to the auditorium where he was
performing g as for mountains.........I didn't notice mountains
when we went to the concert. We were thinking of other things at that
time GBSEG and in altered states of minds as well EG

I used to love to go to the mountains Have you driven the dogwood
trail I did that with my mom all the time

My best friend, Mary Emma's house is in Farragut, and part of the
extended Dogwood trail. It IS beautiful. I can only imagine what it
was like when the thousands of white dogwoods were in bloom up in the
Smokies before anthrachnose killed off so many. the hills are still
lit up with them in spring though. I can only imagine how many there
were though. wish I could have see that! (I just want to get an
orange, fragrant, flame azaela for my woods..............)

I live in Pa now waaaahhhh I hate it too many people live near
philidelphia yuck
City of Brotherly Love " my goot yeah right I got car jacked last
month no joke.

Another reason I don't live in Nashville now, despite that I probably
know where the safe older neighborhoods are, I doubt if I'd ever go
back there. It's changed into a nasty city now...........But one
really doesn't know..........be careful what you say you WON'T
do........

can't wait to move I think I'm going to SC or, FL more gardening
options

South Carolina would be nice. Not sure even I'd want to live in
Florida.........talk to Zhan about that. She's lived in Eastern
Florida just outside of Orlando, and now lives in the extreme western
panhandle area of Pensacola. I've heard about Central Florida from the
people moving up here about how it's changing. They're leaving Florida
and coming up here by the droves. SEttling in Morristown, Bean
Station, Greeneville, Rogersville, Sevierville, Kodiak, Cosby, Newport
an northern Knoxville moving towards the southern areas too, like
Maryville, Lenoir etc. The secret is out about Eastern Tennessee. If
I could get Squire to move somewhere, I'd even like to go further east
and do North Carolina, of extreme and go for good towards Oregon to
zone 8 on the western side of the Cascade. I'm past wondering if I'll
wind up here for good and have resigned myself to loving where I am
for now. And what happens later will happen or not. Just more and
more lights to the south of me in front of English
Mountain...........I do know I won't move to a colder climate. If I
move anywhere it will be to a warmer zone, period.

I sometimes kick myself for not wanting Squire to try the Alburquerque
job, but if it were meant to be we'd be there already. He wasn't
qualified enough to apply seriously. He's got a good job now with a
really good trucking company and since they're based outa Iowa, the
possibilities are endless for relocation one day g I'm still holding
out for Oregon....................

I'm twenty six and two kids who love gardening
They want strawberries this year.
well not much else to tell I have a mary statue in my garden and I
live in a small town home but this year I want to plant a fruit tree i
think a cherry if any one has a recommendation for a good sweet
black cherry tree i'k appreciate one that fruits well.

Strawberries are easy. You can plant those in a raised bed and get
quarts of fruit! All you need is sunshine and some decent dirt and a
flat of strawberry plants. Pinch off the flowers this year to
encourage the mother plants to make daughters and buy your kids some
farmer's market berries to satiate them until next year and you'll
have enough next year for them to eat outa the garden. Any fruit
trees take up to 7 years to produce fruit. There is a company, One
Green World, www.onegreenworld.com that has Cherry trees. Compact
Stella is self fertile and a true dwarf adn grows only 8' 10' and
begins to bear within a year or two after planting, almost black
tasty, firm, heart shaped fruit. they're about $21.95 each. Kristin
is Hardier than most sweet cherries. withstands temperatures of minus
25oF abundant, large, dark burgundy fruit with flavorful, firm and
juicy flesh. Lapins is a very large, dark purple, delicious and
self-fertile and one of the best cherries available. large, high
quality fruit. easy to grownad very productive variety for the home
gardener. They also have pie cherries which are tangy I think.

if you want your own catalog, call toll free 1-877-353-4028

my kids are seven and five
will before this is a novel I'll go thanks for the welcome
madgardener

you're more than welcome !
madgardener up on the soaked and muddy ridge, back in a cold fairy
holler, overlooking English Mountain, in Eastern Tennessee somewhere
just off I-40 on the way to North Cacklacky g

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:53:14 -0500, madgardener
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:19:24 -0500, Michelle
wrote:

Hi , I'm from TN like madgardener too Not living there now
unfortunatly I miss it though.

Glad to hear another gardener is from Tennessee. How does living in

Hey, Madgardener. Oak Ridge here! Worked the K-25 and Y-12 plants
for years. Now hike the Cumberland Trail, mostly Frozen Head. Was
tempted to make that chocolate feast in Knoxville today, but had other
duties.
Phish

"Phisherman" wrote in message

Hey, Madgardener. Oak Ridge here! Worked the K-25 and Y-12 plants
for years. Now hike the Cumberland Trail, mostly Frozen Head. Was
tempted to make that chocolate feast in Knoxville today, but had other
duties.
Phish

I thought I saw you glowing over there Phish~g son used to work the
Wendy's on Hardin Valley road until he moved over here with us in
Dandridge..............Mary Emma worked Y-12 plant too, along with her
husband, a chemist, who was integeral to a lot of decisions over there by
the name of Roger Anderson. small world, eh? I got my training at UT
Master Gardening ten years ago under Doug Dalton and Neal Denton. But the
majority of it has come at my own hands. self reading, lots of gardening
shows, books, books, magazines and just pure obsessiveness! g didja miss
the ice storm that split around us here and slammed North Carolina? We got
bitter cold rain that was gnat's eyelash of being slush, but not cold
enough. Apparently my friend manning the radio station in Spindale, N.C. is
experiencing temps of 25o F right now brrrrr hooties!! you could put an eye
out in that cold!g
thanks for hollering at me. off to bed with Rose, Sugar, Piquito the bob
tailed kittie and sneaky Pesters, Rose's black cat. Possibly before the
night is over I'll discover Polluxx somewhere taking up the remaining spaces
of the El Mondo Grosso California king waterbed with Pye and Jenners vying
for choice spot in the clean laundry

you'll hafta gi' me a holler come springtime and I'll see if I can find
something to share w'you outa me constipated gardens
madgardener

madgardener wrote:


Another reason I don't live in Nashville now, despite that I probably
know where the safe older neighborhoods are, I doubt if I'd ever go
back there. It's changed into a nasty city now...........

Hey, Mad, I have to take exception to that statement, being here in
beautiful downtown Nashville. It is a city, but not as nasty as some,
I'm sure. (Although I'm not happy about the growth and admit I liked it
alot better years ago.)

The crocuses are starting to think about coming up, the flowering quince
flowers now and again and today is 60 degrees and the hope of spring is
in the air, along with the smog. But in a couple of months, when the
myrtle and honeysuckle and lilacs and roses are in bloom, it's going to
smell wonderful!!

Happy gardening,

Kate

no offence intended honey. I grew up there from 1954-1992 with a period of
time in Aurora, Colorado , 1978-1983. Been back in Tennessee since 1983.
Grew up in Inglewood. Specifically during the late 50's, 60's and 70's. On
Greenfield Avenue which lead down Riverside Drive into Shelby Park thru to
the other side back into the older, East Nashville where old house stood
(the spot the huge tornado ripped to pieces in 1994? ) Remember when
Madison was rural and farm area. Downtown meant catch the Kennedy Hill bus
into town and go to Harvey's, J.C. Penny's, Cain Sloan department store and
Castner Knott's. Cut thru the Arcade where on one end was Walgreen's store
where a popcorn stand stood and cranked out incredible fresh butter popcorn,
in the middle was an awesome fresh roasted nut store, and upstairs on the
upper levels of the arcade, Castleman's Jewelry store sat. Buses ceased to
run after 6 p.m. on Saturdays, despite that the Grand Old Opry was over by
10, Broadway meant near the Cumberland was the Acme Feed Store where I got
all my supplies for gardening and even spring chicks.......just up the road
was Fort Nashboro. It was before River Front park. I have never even seen
the park as I moved to Eastern Tennessee in 1992.

I remember going to the Tennessee theater downtown for openings. Even saw
the New York Broadway production of Hair in 1971 there with the original
cast. That was interesting. g

Remember the first "mall" was 100 Oaks, and then Rivergate Mall was built
and it was touted as the death of the downtown department store era. As I
was a child of the 60's, I hung out on the lawns of Centennial Park and the
Parthenon with all the other hippies, freaks, flower children and college
kids and various musicians that wandered thru at that time. The stories I
could tell ya...........g

Most of my mom's family hail from Shelbyville and Columbia. Mostly
Shelbyville, and that was surreal. Nothing but Tennessee Walking Horse
celebration during the Labor day time. I have a lot of fond memories about
downtown Nashville, and some sad ones too. It makes for a large portion of
my life. I lived for a short while in South Nashville just off Nolensville
Road in apartments I'm sure have changed a bit. (Blackman drive area just
past Harding Mall area). I even remember fondly mine and my dad's favorite
historical BBQ place at the foot of the Jefferson Street Bridge being torn
down after 134 years.Charlie Nickens Pit BBQ. I swear my dad showed emotion
when they razed it that day. and he worked until retirement for
Hermatage/Robert Orr which is now Robert Orr/Sysco after years with American
Ace.............I am a Nashville girl. Graduated at Isaac Litton Sr. High
home of the Marching 100+ and now the old high school is all gone but the
gym that still has the Litton Lion that my classmate, Nancy Lucas painted on
the wall going into the gym back in 1970-1971 the last year it was a
graduating high school before Two Rivers High School was opened.

No honey, my dad put in the elevators at the L&C building and the escalators
in the old huge original Sears building that is now closed. And I can drive
into Nashville, go thru town, hit 8th avenue and eventually wind up at my
grandparents house in Shelbyville because as my dad taught me, Nashville
main roads are like a wagon wheel and Nashville sits in the center like the
hub with the main roads like spokes of the wheel. If you follow Old Hickory
long enough you'll go thru Donelson, into downtown, thru Old Hickory, out of
Madison and back and out again GBSEG

I bet I can still get from Madison thru some hidden roads to downtown and
beat all traffic no matter how heavy it is! I blew away someone a couple of
years ago when I jumped off Briley Parkway, hit Ellington Parkway and took
them to the hotel near Vanderbilt and bipassed the huge traffic standstill
on the interstate.

And on the garden note of all this, I learned my passion for gardening in my
house on Howard Avenue just off Gallatin Road in Inglewood where I lived
from 1974 until 1992 just one street over from the house I grew up in. A
little 50X 205 lot with a brick house that had only 1228 square feet to it!
I grew everything from a full sized vegetable garden, raspberries,
boysenberries, a pear tree, every perennial I could lay my hands on and 23
kinds of bulbs, not to mention I was just getting started with blooming
shrubs. Fished the banks of the Cumberland River and knew and talked a few
times to John Hartford when he was wandering his area near the old Ferry
Ramp that lay just below where his house was, and could hear the General
Jackson on hot summer nights and Opryland's music with fireworks punctuating
the night during the summer's end.

fond memories honey. Not bitter ones. I just noticed there is more traffic,
more crime and more noise is all. Compared to where I live now, it's
totally different. In good ways and bad. What do you grow? I'd love to hear
about your gardens. seriously!



Madgardener up on a ridge, back in fairy holler, overlooking English
Mountain in Eastern Tennessee

"kate" wrote in message
...
madgardener wrote:


Another reason I don't live in Nashville now, despite that I probably
know where the safe older neighborhoods are, I doubt if I'd ever go
back there. It's changed into a nasty city now...........

Hey, Mad, I have to take exception to that statement, being here in
beautiful downtown Nashville. It is a city, but not as nasty as some,
I'm sure. (Although I'm not happy about the growth and admit I liked it
alot better years ago.)

The crocuses are starting to think about coming up, the flowering quince
flowers now and again and today is 60 degrees and the hope of spring is
in the air, along with the smog. But in a couple of months, when the
myrtle and honeysuckle and lilacs and roses are in bloom, it's going to
smell wonderful!!

Happy gardening,

Kate

madgardener wrote:


fond memories honey. Not bitter ones. I just noticed there is more traffic,
more crime and more noise is all. Compared to where I live now, it's
totally different. In good ways and bad. What do you grow? I'd love to hear
about your gardens. seriously!

Thanks for the ride down memory lane, Mad. I've grown the typical
veggies for years, and branched out to herbs a couple of years ago.
Mullein, rue, rosemary, hyssop, feverfew, lemon balm, sage, marshmallow
- the passionflower is competing with the wisteria for the most invasive
title, skullcap, red clover, lemon thyme and more that I'm forgetting.
My raspberies aren't happy, probably because I'm a tree-aholic and full
sun is getting to be a rare commodity as I continue to plant more baby
trees from the Arbor Day Foundation each year.

This year I'm going for backyard market gardening so I'm adding cut
flowers to the agenda. I've enlisted 2 neighbors, one who gardens and
one who is letting me till up his backyard so I can plant up a storm.
This year is my first for starting plants inside so i've been following
the threads on lighting and went to Home Depot yesterday pricing shop
lights.

The daffodils are just starting to appear and one crocus actually showed
a touch of orange this morning. The wild rose didn't bloom last year -
something was cuasing the leaves to shrivel up so I cut that back almost
to the ground yesterday - the temp isn't leaving the low 30's today so
I'll be working on preparing space inside today. (which I'd better get
going on..)

Kate