Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My best is
my Hostas (waa).


"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
...

I've made a similar trap, inverted and sealed with hot melt adhesive
instead
of glue as a yellow jacket trap.
Little bit of wine and sugar and water as bait. What is interesting is
that
when insects are trapped and die and start to smell, trap attracts fllies
which add to mix. None of my home made yellow jacket traps work as well
as
the engineered commercial ones but instead of disposing you can refill
with
wine/sugar bait.
Frank

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message news:9eFTb.391083$ts4.376464@pd7tw3no...
Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My best is
my Hostas (waa).


Bud Light

(Frank Logullo) wrote in
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"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:9eFTb.391083$ts4.376464@pd7tw3no...
Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My
best is my Hostas (waa).


Bud Light


I've heard that they like higher malt content better (Colt-45, Magnum), but
due to the legal drinking age for slugs, they will probably take whatever
they can get. When I was in college, the cheapest was Milwakee's Best
("The Beast") @ 50 cents a can.

(Frank Logullo) wrote in
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"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:9eFTb.391083$ts4.376464@pd7tw3no...
Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My
best is my Hostas (waa).


Bud Light


I've heard that they like higher malt content better (Colt-45, Magnum), but
due to the legal drinking age for slugs, they will probably take whatever
they can get. When I was in college, the cheapest was Milwakee's Best
("The Beast") @ 50 cents a can.

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 04:13:57 GMT, "Joseph Chong"
wrote:

Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My best is
my Hostas (waa).


Not sure what is the best bait. I've been looking for a product
called "Sluggo" for some time without any luck. There are a variety
of baits available at your garden center. The thing about this trap
is that the bait will not wash away. Slugs are attracted to yeast, so
a small ball of yeast dough should work. Maybe a small sponge holding
Budweiser will work.

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 04:13:57 GMT, "Joseph Chong"
wrote:

Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My best is
my Hostas (waa).


Not sure what is the best bait. I've been looking for a product
called "Sluggo" for some time without any luck. There are a variety
of baits available at your garden center. The thing about this trap
is that the bait will not wash away. Slugs are attracted to yeast, so
a small ball of yeast dough should work. Maybe a small sponge holding
Budweiser will work.

Bud light is only fit for slug traps :-)
If you only staple the thing shut how do you keep the beer from running out?
I need to be spoonfed here.
The slugs slime in through the neck then plop in to the beer?
Amazing, now I am actually looking forward to slug season.
jc

"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
...
(Frank Logullo) wrote in
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"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:9eFTb.391083$ts4.376464@pd7tw3no...
Dumb q but what is the best bait for sluggies to put in the trap. My
best is my Hostas (waa).


Bud Light


I've heard that they like higher malt content better (Colt-45, Magnum),
but
due to the legal drinking age for slugs, they will probably take whatever
they can get. When I was in college, the cheapest was Milwakee's Best
("The Beast") @ 50 cents a can.

"Joseph Chong" wrote in
news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no:

Bud light is only fit for slug traps :-)
If you only staple the thing shut how do you keep the beer from
running out? I need to be spoonfed here.
The slugs slime in through the neck then plop in to the beer?
Amazing, now I am actually looking forward to slug season.
jc


personally I just put out a shallow container (1") deep when the
population gets too high. Some other people have mentioned using
something as deep as a yogurt container. If you are going that deep, you
might want to dig a hole so that the slugs don't have so far to climb.
This works okay if it doesn't rain alot.

Here's my version if it rains alot:

"Super Slug Tent-party"

empty paper milk or juice carton
beer
______
_/i.....i
\______|


lay the carton on its side
make a horizontal cut in the middle on both sides of the carton (at the
'.')
cut two vertical slits near the ends (at the 'i')
fold the resultant 'flaps' up
pour beer inside

for extra ambiance, you can tape toothpicks together and make little
support pillars for the flaps.

I don't know how effective it is and don't blame me if you are cited for
having trash in your yard

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no...
Bud light is only fit for slug traps :-)
If you only staple the thing shut how do you keep the beer from running out?
I need to be spoonfed here.
The slugs slime in through the neck then plop in to the beer?
Amazing, now I am actually looking forward to slug season.
jc

Actually, you do not need to be elaborate. A pan of beer sunk a
little into the dirt to allow slugs to crawl in will do. They crawl
in and drown. I guess if you used poster's idea, you could use less
beer. I used to put in my garden. I suggested it to a coworker one
time but he was afraid he might catch a beer guzzling neighbor. Any
beer will do but after the Super Bowl commercials, I can't think of a
better use for Bud Light
Frank

In article ,
(Frank Logullo) wrote:

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no...
Bud light is only fit for slug traps :-)
If you only staple the thing shut how do you keep the beer from running out?
I need to be spoonfed here.
The slugs slime in through the neck then plop in to the beer?
Amazing, now I am actually looking forward to slug season.
jc

Actually, you do not need to be elaborate. A pan of beer sunk a
little into the dirt to allow slugs to crawl in will do. They crawl
in and drown.

Actually, they crawl in, & crawl right back out. It has to be too deep for
them to reach back over the top to continue on through. A yoplay yogurt
cup works very nicely, even big ones can't quite climb back out of that.

I guess if you used poster's idea, you could use less
beer. I used to put in my garden. I suggested it to a coworker one
time but he was afraid he might catch a beer guzzling neighbor. Any
beer will do but after the Super Bowl commercials, I can't think of a
better use for Bud Light
Frank

[repost below]

Field studies show the majority of slugs crawl into a pan of beer, then
right out, unharmed -- IF it's shallow like in a pie tin. A few will be
killed by the alcohol content per se if the beer is less than an hour old,
but alcohol evaporates off in about an hour, & the only reason they would
die thereafter would be to drown. Slugs can only drown in water that is
deeper than their "foot" can reach them back out & over the edge. If a
Yoplay yogurt cup (with inward-reaching walls) is sunk partly in the
ground (not all the way or beneficial insects will fall in) slugs will
crawl into it after the scent of the beer malt, & can't crawl back out.

The beer has to be changed DAILY; slugs can't smell old stale beer & won't
find it. Slugs have favorites, too. A study at the University of Colorado
discovered slugs dislike some beers & just won't pay attention to them.
They did rather like Michelob & Budweiser. They were MOST enamored of
Kingsbury Malt, which is not alcoholic & never kills slugs toxically, but
the Colorado study used DEEP "professional" slug traps that drowned them.
A University of Ohio study used shallow beer traps with "lids" for the
sake of population & species studies. These were not supposed to kill the
slugs, & didn't kill them. The "hide box" beer traps attracted a lot of
slugs, which liked the beer enough to hang out in the trap (clinging to
the roof) for easy count & species assessment. Essentially beer in a
hide-habitat made them happy rather than dead.

The Entymology Society of America did a study to see how metaldehyde snail
bait worked compared to beer. In greenhouses, with beer traps, they caught
about 300 snails, to every 28 snails caught by metaldehyde bait. This
study was a while back & they didn't compare Sluggo & EscarGo, made from
the first muluscide that honestly WORKS, even when wet, & which is totally
non-toxic to anything but muluscs. It is pure iron phosphate, which snails
like the taste of, but which causes them to slime themselves to death,
unable to eat a thing more in the meantime. Imagine having your mouth full
of jello which you can neither swallow nor spit out, & you slowly starve
to death. How sad for the slugs! The little *******s. By comparison
metaldehyde baits first of all don't attract many slugs, and attract ZERO
slugs when it is matted down with rainfall or garden-waterings. So that
stuff has to be DRY for snails to eat it, but snails aren't so active when
days are dry. If they do eat any of it in the rain, because the toxins
cause the slug to dehydrate to death, this often doesn't happen if it is
raining. It works a bit better inside a box where slugs can find it dry on
a wet day, but essentially metaldehyde bait isn't very appealing to slugs
either way, as the Entymology Society comparisons proved.

But back to the fun Colorado study. Slugs DON'T LIKE Rainier Beer, Strohs,
Pabst Blue Ribbon, Coors, or Millers. Anyone who likes these beers lacks
even the good sense of a slug. Anheiser-Busch beers were across the board
better liked, inducing one soul to suggest a new brand, Slugweiser; but
nothing equalled non-alcoholic Kingsbury Malt in slug appeal, so alchies
who don't dare have anything around the house but near-beer are in like
flint. Slugs didn't like flat beer at all, they wanted it fresh or none of
it. Slugs also don't like wine. Gallo Wine was slightly more appealing
than plain water, but not by much.

[end repost]

Here's a more complete slugpost:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...utput=gpla in

and here's my article on the falsehoods & realities surrounding the
popular idea of coffee grounds as slugbait:
http://www.paghat.com/coffeeslugs.html

I presently use Sluggo, an organic product which so far as the garden is
concerned is merely a fertilizer (pure iron phosphate) but which kills
slugs better than ANYthing ever before concocted. I use it only twice a
year, early in spring, then once more when autumn rains start. It's the
first thing I ever tried (other than hand-picking with flashlight on rainy
nights) that turned out to be pretty much a sure thing.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:13:04 -0800,
(paghat) wrote:

In article ,
(Frank Logullo) wrote:

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no...
-paghat the ratgirl
Good to see you again Paggers.

I recently read a sorta 'consumers report' about the low-cal beers.

The first column was 'snail bait'.

That says it for me.

Joe
Ontario

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no...
Bud light is only fit for slug traps :-)
If you only staple the thing shut how do you keep the beer from running out?
I need to be spoonfed here.
The slugs slime in through the neck then plop in to the beer?
Amazing, now I am actually looking forward to slug season.
jc

Actually, you do not need to be elaborate. A pan of beer sunk a
little into the dirt to allow slugs to crawl in will do. They crawl
in and drown. I guess if you used poster's idea, you could use less
beer. I used to put in my garden. I suggested it to a coworker one
time but he was afraid he might catch a beer guzzling neighbor. Any
beer will do but after the Super Bowl commercials, I can't think of a
better use for Bud Light
Frank

In article ,
(Frank Logullo) wrote:

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no...
Bud light is only fit for slug traps :-)
If you only staple the thing shut how do you keep the beer from running out?
I need to be spoonfed here.
The slugs slime in through the neck then plop in to the beer?
Amazing, now I am actually looking forward to slug season.
jc

Actually, you do not need to be elaborate. A pan of beer sunk a
little into the dirt to allow slugs to crawl in will do. They crawl
in and drown.

Actually, they crawl in, & crawl right back out. It has to be too deep for
them to reach back over the top to continue on through. A yoplay yogurt
cup works very nicely, even big ones can't quite climb back out of that.

I guess if you used poster's idea, you could use less
beer. I used to put in my garden. I suggested it to a coworker one
time but he was afraid he might catch a beer guzzling neighbor. Any
beer will do but after the Super Bowl commercials, I can't think of a
better use for Bud Light
Frank

[repost below]

Field studies show the majority of slugs crawl into a pan of beer, then
right out, unharmed -- IF it's shallow like in a pie tin. A few will be
killed by the alcohol content per se if the beer is less than an hour old,
but alcohol evaporates off in about an hour, & the only reason they would
die thereafter would be to drown. Slugs can only drown in water that is
deeper than their "foot" can reach them back out & over the edge. If a
Yoplay yogurt cup (with inward-reaching walls) is sunk partly in the
ground (not all the way or beneficial insects will fall in) slugs will
crawl into it after the scent of the beer malt, & can't crawl back out.

The beer has to be changed DAILY; slugs can't smell old stale beer & won't
find it. Slugs have favorites, too. A study at the University of Colorado
discovered slugs dislike some beers & just won't pay attention to them.
They did rather like Michelob & Budweiser. They were MOST enamored of
Kingsbury Malt, which is not alcoholic & never kills slugs toxically, but
the Colorado study used DEEP "professional" slug traps that drowned them.
A University of Ohio study used shallow beer traps with "lids" for the
sake of population & species studies. These were not supposed to kill the
slugs, & didn't kill them. The "hide box" beer traps attracted a lot of
slugs, which liked the beer enough to hang out in the trap (clinging to
the roof) for easy count & species assessment. Essentially beer in a
hide-habitat made them happy rather than dead.

The Entymology Society of America did a study to see how metaldehyde snail
bait worked compared to beer. In greenhouses, with beer traps, they caught
about 300 snails, to every 28 snails caught by metaldehyde bait. This
study was a while back & they didn't compare Sluggo & EscarGo, made from
the first muluscide that honestly WORKS, even when wet, & which is totally
non-toxic to anything but muluscs. It is pure iron phosphate, which snails
like the taste of, but which causes them to slime themselves to death,
unable to eat a thing more in the meantime. Imagine having your mouth full
of jello which you can neither swallow nor spit out, & you slowly starve
to death. How sad for the slugs! The little *******s. By comparison
metaldehyde baits first of all don't attract many slugs, and attract ZERO
slugs when it is matted down with rainfall or garden-waterings. So that
stuff has to be DRY for snails to eat it, but snails aren't so active when
days are dry. If they do eat any of it in the rain, because the toxins
cause the slug to dehydrate to death, this often doesn't happen if it is
raining. It works a bit better inside a box where slugs can find it dry on
a wet day, but essentially metaldehyde bait isn't very appealing to slugs
either way, as the Entymology Society comparisons proved.

But back to the fun Colorado study. Slugs DON'T LIKE Rainier Beer, Strohs,
Pabst Blue Ribbon, Coors, or Millers. Anyone who likes these beers lacks
even the good sense of a slug. Anheiser-Busch beers were across the board
better liked, inducing one soul to suggest a new brand, Slugweiser; but
nothing equalled non-alcoholic Kingsbury Malt in slug appeal, so alchies
who don't dare have anything around the house but near-beer are in like
flint. Slugs didn't like flat beer at all, they wanted it fresh or none of
it. Slugs also don't like wine. Gallo Wine was slightly more appealing
than plain water, but not by much.

[end repost]

Here's a more complete slugpost:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...utput=gpla in

and here's my article on the falsehoods & realities surrounding the
popular idea of coffee grounds as slugbait:
http://www.paghat.com/coffeeslugs.html

I presently use Sluggo, an organic product which so far as the garden is
concerned is merely a fertilizer (pure iron phosphate) but which kills
slugs better than ANYthing ever before concocted. I use it only twice a
year, early in spring, then once more when autumn rains start. It's the
first thing I ever tried (other than hand-picking with flashlight on rainy
nights) that turned out to be pretty much a sure thing.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:13:04 -0800,
(paghat) wrote:

In article ,
(Frank Logullo) wrote:

"Joseph Chong" wrote in message
news:Up_Tb.396744$X%5.110583@pd7tw2no...
-paghat the ratgirl
Good to see you again Paggers.

I recently read a sorta 'consumers report' about the low-cal beers.

The first column was 'snail bait'.

That says it for me.

Joe
Ontario

(MLEBLANCA) wrote in news:20040204120146.25815.00006390
@mb-m07.aol.com:


Cool, Salty
You could also decorate with little bunting strips and rosettes;
with all the election stuff going on, make them red white and blue!

It is a SUNNY DAY and I am a little giddy with the thought of
going Outside to work in the garden............

Giddy Emilie
NorCal

Hi Emilie,

Wouldn't that be something, to drive by a bunch of houses and see a bunch
of milk cartons in various degrees of decoration?

Old man winter is being a tease, Wednesday and today were very nice, but
tomorrow cold again, at least over on this side.