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papaver (OT)
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message ... (snip) As a recent chastiser, I feel obliged to correct any mistaken impression by other posters that you might be referring to myself. I have never done anything to deserve the repulsive insult of being considered your friend. (snip) While some might take the above as evidence of being "hateful, angry and spiteful", I prefer to think it is more in the category of being nasty, resentful and vindictive. Fear not! Those of us who are coming to know you would never confuse you with being escapee's friend. However, we might wonder if the person who could say that has any friends at all. |
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papaver (OT)
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:16:59 -0400, "eclectic"
opined: "Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message .. . (snip) As a recent chastiser, I feel obliged to correct any mistaken impression by other posters that you might be referring to myself. I have never done anything to deserve the repulsive insult of being considered your friend. (snip) While some might take the above as evidence of being "hateful, angry and spiteful", I prefer to think it is more in the category of being nasty, resentful and vindictive. Fear not! Those of us who are coming to know you would never confuse you with being escapee's friend. However, we might wonder if the person who could say that has any friends at all. I have about 5 friends in my life. My husband is one, two queers up in New York (said lovingly as a typical fag hag) my mother (big pain in the ass she is but I adore her anyway) and my childhood friend JBird, a guy with whom I did everything but had sex with. I have come to learn the friendships online are nothing more than bullshit and only when they agree with you are they your friend. I sit back and watch many of these peoples' lives and I rarely wonder why their life is in the shitter. Very nasty, resentful, and vindictive, but I'd also like to add extreme envy to that list. That said, I'm really bored with this newsgroup. After all is said and done, the most interesting people here are actually paghat, cereoid, Tom J., Tom Kan Pa and Maddy. Everyone else...bleh |
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papaver (OT)
"escapee" wrote in message ... (snip) I have about 5 friends in my life. My husband is one, two queers up in New York (said lovingly as a typical fag hag) my mother (big pain in the ass she is but I adore her anyway) and my childhood friend JBird, a guy with whom I did everything but had sex with. I have come to learn the friendships online are nothing more than bullshit (snip) Well, yes. Online friendly people can easily be mistaken for friends. Even between friends there is a certain amount of BS which has to be forgiven and forgotten. More people than you know do appreciate your advice and opinion even if it runs contrary to contrary people. Regards. |
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papaver (OT)
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:49:06 -0400, "eclectic"
opined: Well, yes. Online friendly people can easily be mistaken for friends. Even between friends there is a certain amount of BS which has to be forgiven and forgotten. More people than you know do appreciate your advice and opinion even if it runs contrary to contrary people. Regards. I can see that, but it gets very tiring and I've a good life full of wonderful events and people. I think what happened with the original post I'm annoyed with is that this person was supposed to be a "friend." Not. I'm bored with the whole woe is me, everyone sucks and is always wrong, and I'm very tired of people on their high horse who have nothing in their life but their anger and coldness. I find it very hard to have compassion for people like this. One day they love you, next day, BAM. So, as a growing person, I can clearly see who is and who is not a big, fat phony and I will ignore them because I know misery loves company and I'm not miserable. |
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papaver (OT)
"escapee" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:49:06 -0400, "eclectic" opined: Well, yes. Online friendly people can easily be mistaken for friends. Even between friends there is a certain amount of BS which has to be forgiven and forgotten. More people than you know do appreciate your advice and opinion even if it runs contrary to contrary people. Regards. I can see that, but it gets very tiring and I've a good life full of wonderful events and people. I think what happened with the original post I'm annoyed with is that this person was supposed to be a "friend." Not. I'm bored with the whole woe is me, everyone sucks and is always wrong, and I'm very tired of people on their high horse who have nothing in their life but their anger and coldness. I find it very hard to have compassion for people like this. One day they love you, next day, BAM. So, as a growing person, I can clearly see who is and who is not a big, fat phony and I will ignore them because I know misery loves company and I'm not miserable. I expect people to be disappointing at times, (behaviour, attitude, you name it) but it's hard to understand the malevolence of those who knowingly post dangerous advice to newbies. That is truly saddening. Fortunately, the posters here are usually knowledgeable and generous in giving their time to respond. By the way, in my experience misery doesn't love company. It loves chocolate. :^) Regards. |
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papaver (OT)
escapee wrote in
: I think what happened with the original post I'm annoyed with is that this person was supposed to be a "friend." Not. I'm bored with the whole woe is me, everyone sucks If this is what you are talking about, I think you are overreacting or taking things too personally: PGG I am constantly amazed at the amount of misinformation that gets PGG disseminated through this group. You provided some questionable information and she called you on it. Without any gratuitous remarks or Cereoidal comedy hour jabs. One sentence. That's all. It hardly counts as an attack or even as being chastised. To expect an apology for that is ridiculous. You certainly didn't apologize for giving the group wrong information (although you did admit it was a mistake) nor have you apologized for categorizing the majority of the people frequenting the newsgroup, including those who haven't said anything positive or negative about you, as 'bleh'. While we are on the subject of misinformation, I doubt anyone considers the Middle East the prime source of heroin in the world. You could argue that Afghanistan is either in the "Middle East" or "Central Asia", but as the only source of poppies or heroin of note from either of those regions, you might as well just say Afghanistan, which has to compete with Burma (clearly not in the Middle East) for at least opium bragging rights. Your message: Message-ID: Breaking Heroin Sources of Supply: (last updated 2002) http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/...nal/factsht/he roin.html |
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papaver (OT)
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:28:06 -0400, "eclectic"
opined: I expect people to be disappointing at times, (behaviour, attitude, you name it) but it's hard to understand the malevolence of those who knowingly post dangerous advice to newbies. That is truly saddening. Fortunately, the posters here are usually knowledgeable and generous in giving their time to respond. By the way, in my experience misery doesn't love company. It loves chocolate. :^) Regards. That's it! I just gave up chocolate! I wish Anyway, I'm about done with Usenet. It's been boring for a long time and I have met people and have true delight in my life. I am very fortunate and I give thanks on a moment by moment basis for all I have and give to others. So, I will probably stop posting on any regular basis. I used to come here more for the people. Now the people are sucking too...sans the few I named who, whether or not I agree with them, have come to like them...yes, including paghat. She and I can get a bit harsh with each other, but she always wins! Victoria |
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papaver (OT)
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X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b5 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: Lines: 58 Path: kermit!hydra.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!216.168 .1.163!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!soggy72.drizzl e.com!user Xref: kermit rec.gardens:274897 In article , wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:28:06 -0400, "eclectic" opined: I expect people to be disappointing at times, (behaviour, attitude, you name it) but it's hard to understand the malevolence of those who knowingly post dangerous advice to newbies. That is truly saddening. Fortunately, the posters here are usually knowledgeable and generous in giving their time to respond. By the way, in my experience misery doesn't love company. It loves chocolate. :^) Regards. That's it! I just gave up chocolate! I wish Anyway, I'm about done with Usenet. It's been boring for a long time and I have met people and have true delight in my life. I am very fortunate and I give thanks on a moment by moment basis for all I have and give to others. So, I will probably stop posting on any regular basis. I used to come here more for the people. Now the people are sucking too...sans the few I named who, whether or not I agree with them, have come to like them...yes, including paghat. She and I can get a bit harsh with each other, but she always wins! Victoria You should take more of an attitude of it being a rowdy town square where people are apt from time to time to wack each other in the faces with a bouquets of pansies, & a challenge to duel with fernbrake at twenty paces. Compared to the majority of UseNet locations, that's pretty darned harmless, & the rest of the pansy-armed firebrands often have useful ideas & observations & information to share. You've admitted to liking a few of the obnoxious or semi-obnoxioius posters, so it would seem it only gets on your nerves when someone turns their obnoxiousness in your direction. If that's the case, then just take a what-does-their-opinion-matter attitude, OR judge if it would be more amusing if it were aimed at someone else, & if it would've been, then it's all right. If someone says "You're a big dumb poopy breath" instead of getting your feelings hurt, assess whether it was childish, satiric, comical, or just stupid. Then either shrug it off as of no real consequence OR post the reply, "Well YOU have poopy breath too PLUS you have yellow matter custard dripping from your dead-dog eyes." -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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papaver (OT)
Sorry, it was more than a little two sentence thing. I apologize if I indeed
gave misinformation. I'm human and I have always said so whenever I've been wrong. Always. In this case, this person yes, is indeed nasty in this case. It was completely uncalled for. Friends don't say what she said. I am now dropping it because I couldn't care less...frankly. On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:16:05 GMT, Salty Thumb opined: escapee wrote in : I think what happened with the original post I'm annoyed with is that this person was supposed to be a "friend." Not. I'm bored with the whole woe is me, everyone sucks If this is what you are talking about, I think you are overreacting or taking things too personally: PGG I am constantly amazed at the amount of misinformation that gets PGG disseminated through this group. You provided some questionable information and she called you on it. Without any gratuitous remarks or Cereoidal comedy hour jabs. One sentence. That's all. It hardly counts as an attack or even as being chastised. To expect an apology for that is ridiculous. You certainly didn't apologize for giving the group wrong information (although you did admit it was a mistake) nor have you apologized for categorizing the majority of the people frequenting the newsgroup, including those who haven't said anything positive or negative about you, as 'bleh'. While we are on the subject of misinformation, I doubt anyone considers the Middle East the prime source of heroin in the world. You could argue that Afghanistan is either in the "Middle East" or "Central Asia", but as the only source of poppies or heroin of note from either of those regions, you might as well just say Afghanistan, which has to compete with Burma (clearly not in the Middle East) for at least opium bragging rights. Your message: Message-ID: Breaking Heroin Sources of Supply: (last updated 2002) http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/...nal/factsht/he roin.html |
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