"H Hornblower" wrote in message
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On 15 May 2004 12:21:01 GMT, Ignoramus12481
wrote:

I have seen seed catalogs where seeds for opium type poppies were
marked banned for sale in US. Later I saw a listing on ebay for opium
poppy seeds which the seller claimed were US legal.

Realy, On Ebay. I love poppies, and would love to grow large opium poppies.

"Ignoramus12481" wrote in message
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In article , Cereus-validus
wrote:


I have some poppy seeds in my pantry, I do not even know if they are
still alive. I put some on a wet paper towel, will see if they are
dead or not.

Those poppy seeds in your pantry may be opium poppy seeds. To be US legal
they roast them before import. Are they black? roasted. or brown? unroasted,
probably very old.

Now we have definite proof she is stoner and not a rock hound.

A stoner is a term for a recreational herb abuser.
At least I didn't call you a dead head!!


"Brigitte J." wrote in message
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"paghat" wrote in message
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In article , "Brigitte J."
wrote:

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
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The California poppy is not a true poppy, you stoner.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, but stoner was never one
of
them.

Brigitte

I think he meant to say "rock hound."

-paghat the ratgirl

What is a rock hound?

On Sat, 15 May 2004 17:05:06 GMT, "Breezy"
wrote:


"Ignoramus12481" wrote in message
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In article , Cereus-validus
wrote:


I have some poppy seeds in my pantry, I do not even know if they are
still alive. I put some on a wet paper towel, will see if they are
dead or not.

Those poppy seeds in your pantry may be opium poppy seeds. To be US legal
they roast them before import. Are they black? roasted. or brown? unroasted,
probably very old.

One should note, that if your daily breakfast has a poppy seed bagel
or roll in it..you may indeed test positive at your next drug
screening.

Its a fairly common false positive, and I believe that the followup
test to determine the exact substance will show it to be the seeds,
but many companies dont pay for the followup, and you may be screwed.

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell

The largest urban planting of opium poppies I ever saw was in a catholic
church court yard. Then one summer day, they all suddenly disappeared, never
to be seen again!!!


"H Hornblower" wrote in message
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On 15 May 2004 12:21:01 GMT, Ignoramus12481
wrote:

Now that we have a nice garden and orchard, one plant I am thinking
abou tplanting is poppies, because they are cute. Is it legal?

I have seen seed catalogs where seeds for opium type poppies were
marked banned for sale in US. Later I saw a listing on ebay for opium
poppy seeds which the seller claimed were US legal.

On Sat, 15 May 2004 14:07:42 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

The California poppy is not a true poppy, you stoner, but it is in the same
family.

I'm curious, what makes something a "true poppy"? I thought that term
could apply to anything in papaveraceae.

Side note, yesterday I saw a bunch of what I believe to be California
poppies, E. californica, with blooms about the size of a penny, very
small. It was in a serpentine area, probably the cause of the small
blooms.




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- Charles
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-does not play well with others

Not the same poppy species they make opium from, Iggy.


"Ignoramus12481" wrote in message
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I know that in Russia, drug addicts make soup out of poppies. Very
bitter, but supposedly gives a high.

i

In article , Brian wrote:
The consensus of opinions recently expressed was that it depends on your
purpose and use. If wanted as garden flowers then OK but for nefarious
reasons it would be illegal.
Do not bleed the fruits!!
Best Wishes Brian. 'flayb' to respond.
"Brigitte J." wrote in message
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"Ignoramus12481" wrote in message
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Now that we have a nice garden and orchard, one plant I am thinking
abou tplanting is poppies, because they are cute. Is it legal?

I can't imagine it being illegal. It is the state flower for
California.

Brigitte






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Did you see that on Mythbusters too?

This is one non-myth that has serious consequences for many people's
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"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 May 2004 17:05:06 GMT, "Breezy"
wrote:


"Ignoramus12481" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Cereus-validus
wrote:


I have some poppy seeds in my pantry, I do not even know if they are
still alive. I put some on a wet paper towel, will see if they are
dead or not.

Those poppy seeds in your pantry may be opium poppy seeds. To be US legal
they roast them before import. Are they black? roasted. or brown?
unroasted,
probably very old.

One should note, that if your daily breakfast has a poppy seed bagel
or roll in it..you may indeed test positive at your next drug
screening.

Its a fairly common false positive, and I believe that the followup
test to determine the exact substance will show it to be the seeds,
but many companies dont pay for the followup, and you may be screwed.

Gunner

That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell

True poppies are in the genus Papaver.

The opium poppy are Papaver somniferum.

The common red poppy, also known as Flander's field poppy, that edible poppy
seeds come from is Papaver rhoeas.

Any other genus in the family Papaveraceae are not true poppies.

The California poppy is in the genus Eschscholtzia. The wild Eschscholtzia
you saw was probably a different species from the widely grown
E.californica. There are several species in the genus, especially in the
Southwestern US and Mexico.


"Charles" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 May 2004 14:07:42 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

The California poppy is not a true poppy, you stoner, but it is in the
same
family.

I'm curious, what makes something a "true poppy"? I thought that term
could apply to anything in papaveraceae.

Side note, yesterday I saw a bunch of what I believe to be California
poppies, E. californica, with blooms about the size of a penny, very
small. It was in a serpentine area, probably the cause of the small
blooms.




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- Charles
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-does not play well with others

The only poppy that is illegal that I know of is the species
Papaveraceae, Papaver Somniferum L. native to southeastern Europe and
western Asia. Opium is gathered from the immature seed pods
a week or so after flowering. The pods are cut with a knife and
the latex sap is collected for the opium. Supposably the fully
developed seeds are not narcotic but recent tests have proven that to be
false. Very sensitive urine tests have detected the opium component of
the seeds.

In fact it is now know that all poppies will produce opium though in
much smaller amounts than the Papaver Somniferum.

Poppies are not illegal to be grown in the United States however
the seed and the plant of Papave Somniferum has been banned for import.


The Independent


"Brigitte J." wrote:

"Ignoramus12481" wrote in message
...
Now that we have a nice garden and orchard, one plant I am thinking
abou tplanting is poppies, because they are cute. Is it legal?

I can't imagine it being illegal. It is the state flower for California.

Brigitte

A stone foxx???

The Independent

"Brigitte J." wrote:

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , "Brigitte J."
wrote:

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
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The California poppy is not a true poppy, you stoner.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, but stoner was never one of
them.

Brigitte

I think he meant to say "rock hound."

-paghat the ratgirl

What is a rock hound?

I'm joansin from the bagels last week.


On Sat, 15 May 2004 17:42:22 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
opined:

Now we have definite proof she is stoner and not a rock hound.

A stoner is a term for a recreational herb abuser.
At least I didn't call you a dead head!!


"Brigitte J." wrote in message
...

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , "Brigitte J."
wrote:

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
. ..
The California poppy is not a true poppy, you stoner.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, but stoner was never one
of
them.

Brigitte

I think he meant to say "rock hound."

-paghat the ratgirl

What is a rock hound?

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Now we have definite proof she is stoner and not a rock hound.

A stoner is a term for a recreational herb abuser.
At least I didn't call you a dead head!!


"Brigitte J." wrote in message
...

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , "Brigitte J."
wrote:

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
. ..
The California poppy is not a true poppy, you stoner.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, but stoner was never
one
of
them.

Brigitte

I think he meant to say "rock hound."

-paghat the ratgirl

What is a rock hound?

You called me a stoner and a rock hound. And only because I said that I
didn't think poppies were illegal since they were the state flower of
California. You always assume someone's a druggie cuz they know a state's
official flower? I know other state's flowers too, does that make me a drug
dealer?

LOL

Brigitte

On Sat, 15 May 2004 19:32:06 GMT, Brigitte J. wrote:



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

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You called me a stoner and a rock hound. And only because I said that I
didn't think poppies were illegal since they were the state flower of
California. You always assume someone's a druggie cuz they know a state's
official flower? I know other state's flowers too, does that make me a drug
dealer?

LOL

Brigitte

Those aren't opium poppies....But you can find opium poppies all over the place,
growing 'wild', or get them from seed catalogs.

(or you could about 5 years ago, the last time I looked)

As for them being "illegal", what the light does *THAT* mean? Some group of people
put something on a piece of paper. Do *they* necessarily follow it? Often not.

Pot is illegal too, but about half the people in America smoke it at one time or
another, and 10's of millions do so regularly.

Raw opium is a nice thing to have around. Mellow you out REAL good :-)

One heck of a lot easier to produce than alcohol, distilled or otherwise.


(tell "Cereus-validus" to bottom post and trim them too, if he wants me to
read his posts -- if he doesn't, it will apparently be no great loss..)



AC

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"The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a
comfortable living from a small piece of land." -Abraham Lincoln

Look here you assrammed pig ****er, no one gives a **** if you read
their posts or not.

Jeez, what an idiot !!

n.




On Sat, 15 May 2004 20:05:40 GMT, Alan Connor said:

On Sat, 15 May 2004 19:32:06 GMT, Brigitte J. wrote:



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

snip


You called me a stoner and a rock hound. And only because I said that I
didn't think poppies were illegal since they were the state flower of
California. You always assume someone's a druggie cuz they know a state's
official flower? I know other state's flowers too, does that make me a drug
dealer?

LOL

Brigitte

Those aren't opium poppies....But you can find opium poppies all over the place,
growing 'wild', or get them from seed catalogs.

(or you could about 5 years ago, the last time I looked)

As for them being "illegal", what the light does *THAT* mean? Some group of people
put something on a piece of paper. Do *they* necessarily follow it? Often not.

Pot is illegal too, but about half the people in America smoke it at one time or
another, and 10's of millions do so regularly.

Raw opium is a nice thing to have around. Mellow you out REAL good :-)

One heck of a lot easier to produce than alcohol, distilled or otherwise.


(tell "Cereus-validus" to bottom post and trim them too, if he wants me to
read his posts -- if he doesn't, it will apparently be no great loss..)



AC