http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf

Nice. I understand that releasing a raccoon into a new territory is
tantamount to a death sentence. Because raccoons are territorial, it is
likely that the raccoons in the new territory will drive out the one you
relocated, or kill it. I guess I could understand if the raccoon was
destroying your roof or threatening the safety of your family or pets. By
your own admission, the problem was created because you put out food (i.e.,
birdseed) and the raccoon availed himself of it.

Nice. I understand that releasing a raccoon into a new territory is
tantamount to a death sentence.

Good!!

By
your own admission, the problem was created because you put out food

Yes - silly to abet the problem yourself.


I guess I could understand if the raccoon was
destroying your roof or threatening the safety of your family or pets.

The little varmints rip up my pond and garden. While none of the ones I trap
have 'made it' to new areas, it will be a comfort to my wife (who is more
tenderhearted than yours truly) to know that they would have been badly used by
the local racoons if I had trapped and released them.....

"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
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Nice. I understand that releasing a raccoon into a new territory is
tantamount to a death sentence.

Good!!

By
your own admission, the problem was created because you put out food

Yes - silly to abet the problem yourself.


I guess I could understand if the raccoon was
destroying your roof or threatening the safety of your family or pets.

The little varmints rip up my pond and garden. While none of the ones I
trap
have 'made it' to new areas, it will be a comfort to my wife (who is more
tenderhearted than yours truly) to know that they would have been badly
used by
the local racoons if I had trapped and released them.....

So I guess this is among your proudest accomplishments and understandably
you had to share it with us.

"Vox Humana" wrote in message
news

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf

Nice. I understand that releasing a raccoon into a new territory is
tantamount to a death sentence. Because raccoons are territorial, it is
likely that the raccoons in the new territory will drive out the one you
relocated, or kill it. I guess I could understand if the raccoon was
destroying your roof or threatening the safety of your family or pets. By
your own admission, the problem was created because you put out food
(i.e.,
birdseed) and the raccoon availed himself of it.

Gee, I'm sorry. Let me apologize to all the raccoons that read this.
It was all my fault ;(
Frank

way to go! my vet told me that if it HAD been a raccoon that had torn
Polluxx' rear end up, I would have just needed a bag and a eulogy. that
raccoons don't just have scraps, they are vicious to cats and dogs when
confronted. hopefully the park is far enough away that RJ doesn't return
searching for twinkies and yoo hoos........
maddie

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message
news

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
...
http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf

Nice. I understand that releasing a raccoon into a new territory is
tantamount to a death sentence. Because raccoons are territorial, it is
likely that the raccoons in the new territory will drive out the one you
relocated, or kill it. I guess I could understand if the raccoon was
destroying your roof or threatening the safety of your family or pets.
By
your own admission, the problem was created because you put out food
(i.e.,
birdseed) and the raccoon availed himself of it.

Gee, I'm sorry. Let me apologize to all the raccoons that read this.
It was all my fault ;(
Frank

You posted a bunch of pictures of a raccoon that you relocated. I simply
supplied some information that gave a more complete picture of what
occurred. I guess I don't understand why you shared that moment of your
life with us. Were we suppose to be in awe of your trapping skills? Maybe
most people here like to see wildlife suffer.

"madgardener" wrote in message
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way to go! my vet told me that if it HAD been a raccoon that had torn
Polluxx' rear end up, I would have just needed a bag and a eulogy. that
raccoons don't just have scraps, they are vicious to cats and dogs when
confronted. hopefully the park is far enough away that RJ doesn't return
searching for twinkies and yoo hoos........
maddie

Yep, snakes can kill you. Bears can kill you. Deer can kill you. Better
just get rid of them all. Same goes with bees and wasps. Don't forget the
spiders.

"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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You posted a bunch of pictures of a raccoon that you relocated. I simply
supplied some information that gave a more complete picture of what
occurred. I guess I don't understand why you shared that moment of your
life with us. Were we suppose to be in awe of your trapping skills?
Maybe
most people here like to see wildlife suffer.

Its a gardening group and as gardeners we encounter wildlife interfering
with our intentions and have to deal with them.
I posted for the enjoyment of the group. I did not harm the animal or make
it suffer. And, you are obviously trolling for me to call you an asshole.
I'll leave that opinion to the readers
Frank

and some nice artificial plants...to avoid any poison

--
Paulo
"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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"madgardener" wrote in message
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way to go! my vet told me that if it HAD been a raccoon that had torn
Polluxx' rear end up, I would have just needed a bag and a eulogy. that
raccoons don't just have scraps, they are vicious to cats and dogs when
confronted. hopefully the park is far enough away that RJ doesn't
return
searching for twinkies and yoo hoos........
maddie

Yep, snakes can kill you. Bears can kill you. Deer can kill you. Better
just get rid of them all. Same goes with bees and wasps. Don't forget
the
spiders.

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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You posted a bunch of pictures of a raccoon that you relocated. I
simply
supplied some information that gave a more complete picture of what
occurred. I guess I don't understand why you shared that moment of your
life with us. Were we suppose to be in awe of your trapping skills?
Maybe
most people here like to see wildlife suffer.

Its a gardening group and as gardeners we encounter wildlife interfering
with our intentions and have to deal with them.
I posted for the enjoyment of the group. I did not harm the animal or
make
it suffer. And, you are obviously trolling for me to call you an asshole.
I'll leave that opinion to the readers
Frank

No, I simply pointed out that it is likely that the raccoon will suffer due
to you relocating it. Maybe you didn't know that. Maybe you didn't care.
I'm just completing the picture. You claim that you didn't hurt it, and
that may be true in a sense, but the fact of the matter is that your actions
are likely to lead to suffering, if not death of the animal. And, if as you
assert, there are other people here looking for ways of dealing with
wildlife, they should know the entire story before following your lead. If
posting this information leads you to name calling, then so be it.

it is necessary for humans to keep the population of raccoons down to a reasonable
level (at least until the predators come back) since high populations of raccoons
leads to severe increase in rabies which can kill large populations of them. that is
only one disease that is a problem of overpopulation.
Ingrid


"Vox Humana" wrote:


"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
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Nice. I understand that releasing a raccoon into a new territory is
tantamount to a death sentence.

Good!!

By
your own admission, the problem was created because you put out food

Yes - silly to abet the problem yourself.


I guess I could understand if the raccoon was
destroying your roof or threatening the safety of your family or pets.

The little varmints rip up my pond and garden. While none of the ones I
trap
have 'made it' to new areas, it will be a comfort to my wife (who is more
tenderhearted than yours truly) to know that they would have been badly
used by
the local racoons if I had trapped and released them.....

So I guess this is among your proudest accomplishments and understandably
you had to share it with us.




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not to mention if the cat had survived it could well be carrying rabies. those shots
dont work 100%. Ingrid

"madgardener" wrote:

way to go! my vet told me that if it HAD been a raccoon that had torn
Polluxx' rear end up, I would have just needed a bag and a eulogy. that
raccoons don't just have scraps, they are vicious to cats and dogs when
confronted. hopefully the park is far enough away that RJ doesn't return
searching for twinkies and yoo hoos........
maddie

"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf






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www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

wrote in message
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it is necessary for humans to keep the population of raccoons down to a
reasonable
level (at least until the predators come back) since high populations of
raccoons
leads to severe increase in rabies which can kill large populations of
them. that is
only one disease that is a problem of overpopulation.
Ingrid


In that case I would suggest a quick and humane form of death. Furthermore,
while your statement may be true, it has nothing to do with the matter at
hand. But since you brought it up, how does one determine when the
population needs to be managed? Is that something that civilians should be
doing by trapping animals who are attracted to their homes by food that was
left out? Should the raccoons know that the food was only for the birds?
Wouldn't the state's department of natural resources or some other agency
better deal with wildlife management instead of a homeowner with an SUV? I
don't see how relocating raccoons solves over population as much as it puts
the "problem" in someone else's back yard. Also, it would seem like nature
takes care of population issues when people don't artificially change the
balance. And, since you brought up the issue of predators, how many
predators, like wolves and coyotes, would a person tolerate in their
neighborhood - a person who can't abide a raccoon digging in a flower pot?
We already have posts warning of the dangers of raccoons. Large predators
also carry disease like rabies. If you thing your pet would get torn-up by
a raccoon, what do you suppose would happen to it when it meets a predator
large enough to kill a raccoon?

wrote in message
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not to mention if the cat had survived it could well be carrying rabies.
those shots
dont work 100%. Ingrid

Rabies is endemic here as is West Nile virus and Lymes disease. I handle
trapped animals gingerly and lay down newpaper in trunk. This raccoon left
a few bugs behind on the paper. Also he had not bathed recently
Frank