"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Henny bogan" wrote in message
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No I didn't and that's probably the reason it's not growing. I usually
read the instructions but this time I didn't. If I saw that they had
said that I wouldn't have bought the product and opted for a regular
good spring mixture without week killer. i don't even have many weeds.

I have kept it moist but when the week killer is obviously doing it's
number on the seed there's nothing you can do and this will go on for
about 8 weeks now at least.

yup I'll bet that's the reason!

Yup. Don't use chemicals at all

Right! According to you, all we need is seed and mowing.

I'm still waiting for that recipe, Dug.

You're in the business of selling chemicals, so you have a stake in this and
are exhibiting a predictable attitude. But, the fact is, plenty of people
grow great lawns with no chemicals at all except a little fertilizer, and
without a whole lot of work. Your business caters to the lazy and the
stupid.

"But then it evaporates.
Peat moss adds no nutrients. And simply laying it on top of the soil
does
nothing for it's structure. "


Well Duh! Of course water evaporates.. But by the time it's getting
dry, the sprinklers should be coming on to water it again. With the
peat moss or another appropriate top dressing, you can go a lot longer
between waterings. And it's not there for nutrients or to add
structure to the soil. It's there to keep the seed partially covered
and damp while it germinates. Ever see hydraulic mulch that's used
very effectively in commercial hydroseeding? It does exactly the same
thing.

"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Henny bogan" wrote in message
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No I didn't and that's probably the reason it's not growing. I
usually read the instructions but this time I didn't. If I saw that
they had said that I wouldn't have bought the product and opted for
a regular good spring mixture without week killer. i don't even have
many weeds.

I have kept it moist but when the week killer is obviously doing
it's number on the seed there's nothing you can do and this will go
on for about 8 weeks now at least.

yup I'll bet that's the reason!

Yup. Don't use chemicals at all

Right! According to you, all we need is seed and mowing.

I'm still waiting for that recipe, Dug.

You're in the business of selling chemicals, so you have a stake in this
and are exhibiting a predictable attitude. But, the fact is, plenty of
people grow great lawns with no chemicals at all except a little
fertilizer,

Everything is a chemical, including fertilizer. We offer organic only
programs, they don't work well at all so no one really stays with
that program.

You said, and I quote:

If the goal is to have a better lawn,
you can do that for next to nothing, with nothing but grass seed and
intelligent mowing.

So tell me, how the hell does that work?
and without a whole lot of work. Your business caters to the
lazy and the stupid.

Are -you- one of my customers?

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Henny bogan" wrote in message
...
No I didn't and that's probably the reason it's not growing. I
usually read the instructions but this time I didn't. If I saw that
they had said that I wouldn't have bought the product and opted for
a regular good spring mixture without week killer. i don't even have
many weeds.

I have kept it moist but when the week killer is obviously doing
it's number on the seed there's nothing you can do and this will go
on for about 8 weeks now at least.

yup I'll bet that's the reason!

Yup. Don't use chemicals at all

Right! According to you, all we need is seed and mowing.

I'm still waiting for that recipe, Dug.

You're in the business of selling chemicals, so you have a stake in this
and are exhibiting a predictable attitude. But, the fact is, plenty of
people grow great lawns with no chemicals at all except a little
fertilizer,

Everything is a chemical, including fertilizer. We offer organic only
programs, they don't work well at all so no one really stays with
that program.

What are the expectations of the customers who feel those programs do not
work well? Be very specific.



You said, and I quote:

If the goal is to have a better lawn,
you can do that for next to nothing, with nothing but grass seed and
intelligent mowing.

So tell me, how the hell does that work?

Don't be a smartass. You know how that works.

and without a whole lot of work. Your business caters to the
lazy and the stupid.

Are -you- one of my customers?

Look - you sell unsafe products to people who believe they need an
absolutely perfect lawn. Where they get this idea, I really don't know. It's
probably proof of the pervasive power of advertising. If someone's got a
100x100 foot lawn and they see 8 dandelions, they go bonkers. Jeez....put
down the cheez doodles, get off your fat ass and dig them out before they
flower. It's not a reason to pay someone to hose down your lawn with
chemicals.

"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Henny bogan" wrote in message
...
No I didn't and that's probably the reason it's not growing. I
usually read the instructions but this time I didn't. If I saw
that they had said that I wouldn't have bought the product and
opted for a regular good spring mixture without week killer. i
don't even have many weeds.

I have kept it moist but when the week killer is obviously doing
it's number on the seed there's nothing you can do and this will
go on for about 8 weeks now at least.

yup I'll bet that's the reason!

Yup. Don't use chemicals at all

Right! According to you, all we need is seed and mowing.

I'm still waiting for that recipe, Dug.

You're in the business of selling chemicals, so you have a stake in
this and are exhibiting a predictable attitude. But, the fact is,
plenty of people grow great lawns with no chemicals at all except a
little fertilizer,

Everything is a chemical, including fertilizer. We offer organic only
programs, they don't work well at all so no one really stays with
that program.

What are the expectations of the customers who feel those programs do not
work well? Be very specific.

Green grass, like the people across the street that have my service have.


You said, and I quote:

If the goal is to have a better lawn,
you can do that for next to nothing, with nothing but grass seed and
intelligent mowing.

So tell me, how the hell does that work?

Don't be a smartass. You know how that works.

Sorry, you can't dodge the question that easy. Please explain how grass
seed and mowing is all one needs to make their lawn look as good as the
neighbors who have my service?

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Henny bogan" wrote in message
...
No I didn't and that's probably the reason it's not growing. I
usually read the instructions but this time I didn't. If I saw
that they had said that I wouldn't have bought the product and
opted for a regular good spring mixture without week killer. i
don't even have many weeds.

I have kept it moist but when the week killer is obviously doing
it's number on the seed there's nothing you can do and this will
go on for about 8 weeks now at least.

yup I'll bet that's the reason!

Yup. Don't use chemicals at all

Right! According to you, all we need is seed and mowing.

I'm still waiting for that recipe, Dug.

You're in the business of selling chemicals, so you have a stake in
this and are exhibiting a predictable attitude. But, the fact is,
plenty of people grow great lawns with no chemicals at all except a
little fertilizer,

Everything is a chemical, including fertilizer. We offer organic only
programs, they don't work well at all so no one really stays with
that program.

What are the expectations of the customers who feel those programs do not
work well? Be very specific.

Green grass, like the people across the street that have my service have.

I have green grass. Lots of it. Nothing added except lime (once), and some
straight fertilizer every few years.



You said, and I quote:

If the goal is to have a better lawn,
you can do that for next to nothing, with nothing but grass seed and
intelligent mowing.

So tell me, how the hell does that work?

Don't be a smartass. You know how that works.

Sorry, you can't dodge the question that easy. Please explain how grass
seed and mowing is all one needs to make their lawn look as good as the
neighbors who have my service?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Would you like me to post a picture of
my lawn? Only one section is lousy: Where the utility company dug it up to
work on the pipes, and then planted with something which must've been 50%
weed seeds. That'll be fixed easily this month, without herbicides.

If you actually need an explanation, that must mean you really don't
understand the plant around which your career is centered. How can that be?