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Old 15-07-2003, 11:22 AM
Ray
 
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Default water before fertilizing?

Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

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"LYNN32141" wrote in message
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In article , "Ray"


writes:

When you dip into a common bucket, you risk transferring pathogens
immediately upon contact.


Interesting Ray.. I didn't know that.. So if I use a specific bucket

strictly
for the soaking and fertlizing of my orchids and no other use, then I can
contaminate them??

Hmmm, me thinks I'll rethink how I fertilize my babies.

Lynn



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Old 15-07-2003, 06:22 PM
LYNN32141
 
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In article , Susan Erickson
writes:

Unless you start each soak with fresh
fertilizer solution.
SuE


Sue,

yes that is exactly what i do.. I make up a fresh bucket of fertilizer
sololution then soak my babies.

Lynn
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Old 15-07-2003, 06:32 PM
LYNN32141
 
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In article , "Ray"
writes:

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.


Very good point Ray.. I had not thought of that.. Thank you so much.. I think
I'll just make a fresh bucket for each plant, rather, than a clean bucket of
solution, with communal dunkings.. Makes good sense.. While I've never had a
problem with my orchids and disease, why start now to take chances.. I've been
pampering over them for 5 years and finally have gotten some of my non-bloomers
to bloom, no sense to add insult to injury..

Thanks so much for that information.


Lynn
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Old 15-07-2003, 06:42 PM
Tracey
 
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Default water before fertilizing?

Unless you start each soak with fresh
fertilizer solution.
SuE



Sue,


yes that is exactly what i do.. I make up a fresh
bucket of fertilizer sololution then soak my babies.


I think she's meaning a fresh fertilizer for *each plant*,
not for each time you fertilize *all* of the plants.

Tracey



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Old 15-07-2003, 09:36 PM
Ray C.
 
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"Ray" wrote in message ...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"LYNN32141" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ray"


writes:

When you dip into a common bucket, you risk transferring pathogens
immediately upon contact.


Interesting Ray.. I didn't know that.. So if I use a specific bucket

strictly
for the soaking and fertlizing of my orchids and no other use, then I can
contaminate them??

Hmmm, me thinks I'll rethink how I fertilize my babies.

Lynn


Ray has brought up a very good point about spreading disease. I never
really thought about that when I set-up my hydroponic bed. Think I too
will be switching over to individual pots in a semihydro setup. Ray,
get ready for another order for my pots!!!
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Old 15-07-2003, 10:17 PM
Dave Lockwood
 
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Default water before fertilizing?

As a matter of fact, hydroponics folks use a UV sterilizer in line with the
nutrient flow to keep it clean. Not a cheap solution to the problem!
"Ray C." wrote in message
om...
"Ray" wrote in message

...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which

means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"LYNN32141" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ray"


writes:

When you dip into a common bucket, you risk transferring pathogens
immediately upon contact.

Interesting Ray.. I didn't know that.. So if I use a specific bucket

strictly
for the soaking and fertlizing of my orchids and no other use, then I

can
contaminate them??

Hmmm, me thinks I'll rethink how I fertilize my babies.

Lynn


Ray has brought up a very good point about spreading disease. I never
really thought about that when I set-up my hydroponic bed. Think I too
will be switching over to individual pots in a semihydro setup. Ray,
get ready for another order for my pots!!!



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Old 15-07-2003, 10:17 PM
LYNN32141
 
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In article , Tracey writes:

I think she's meaning a fresh fertilizer for *each plant*,
not for each time you fertilize *all* of the plants.

Tracey


Thanks Tracey.. I had to re-read that.. and you're right.

Lynn
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Old 16-07-2003, 05:42 AM
Boystrup Pb, ann,...
 
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But making a fresh bucket for each plant can become a very expensive thing.
Why not try to sort out the healthy plants from the others and soak the good
once together and sick individualy.
I only soak my plants once when I have just repot them, and for the rest I
just poor and spray them with water (+fertilizer, insectesite,...) I do give
them a biiiiiig shower once a year in the bathtop with fertilizer and a lot
of water. That one time a year I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.

Peter


"Ray" schreef in bericht
...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which

means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--




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Old 16-07-2003, 06:13 AM
Ray
 
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You cannot know for sure which plants carry what.

Take viruses, for instance. Your plant may be infected, but never show the
slightest symptom of infection. Pass the virus onto another plant via a dip
and the same may not be true.

personally, I think that considering the time, labor, and cash invested into
your orchid collection, you're better off to risk "wasting" fertilizer
solution though once-through watering.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
e...
But making a fresh bucket for each plant can become a very expensive

thing.
Why not try to sort out the healthy plants from the others and soak the

good
once together and sick individualy.
I only soak my plants once when I have just repot them, and for the rest I
just poor and spray them with water (+fertilizer, insectesite,...) I do

give
them a biiiiiig shower once a year in the bathtop with fertilizer and a

lot
of water. That one time a year I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.

Peter


"Ray" schreef in bericht
...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which

means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--








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Old 16-07-2003, 06:13 AM
Diane Mancino
 
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Default water before fertilizing?

Use the left over fertilizer on your other plants, shrubs, windowboxes. Not
a waste, your not supposed to use that much anyway. Happy violets here, they
love that I've taken up collecting the orchids

Diane
"Ray" wrote in message
...
You cannot know for sure which plants carry what.

Take viruses, for instance. Your plant may be infected, but never show

the
slightest symptom of infection. Pass the virus onto another plant via a

dip
and the same may not be true.

personally, I think that considering the time, labor, and cash invested

into
your orchid collection, you're better off to risk "wasting" fertilizer
solution though once-through watering.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
e...
But making a fresh bucket for each plant can become a very expensive

thing.
Why not try to sort out the healthy plants from the others and soak the

good
once together and sick individualy.
I only soak my plants once when I have just repot them, and for the rest

I
just poor and spray them with water (+fertilizer, insectesite,...) I do

give
them a biiiiiig shower once a year in the bathtop with fertilizer and a

lot
of water. That one time a year I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.

Peter


"Ray" schreef in bericht
...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which


means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--








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Old 16-07-2003, 06:15 AM
LYNN32141
 
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In article , "Boystrup Pb,
ann,..." writes:

I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.


om goodness.. yes I can imagine how long that can take you and the clean up to
boot.. Thankfully all mine grow outside under trees and such.. They absolutely
love it there.

lynn
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Old 16-07-2003, 06:20 AM
Ray
 
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Default water before fertilizing?

You cannot know for sure which plants carry what.

Take viruses, for instance. Your plant may be infected, but never show the
slightest symptom of infection. Pass the virus onto another plant via a dip
and the same may not be true.

personally, I think that considering the time, labor, and cash invested into
your orchid collection, you're better off to risk "wasting" fertilizer
solution though once-through watering.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
e...
But making a fresh bucket for each plant can become a very expensive

thing.
Why not try to sort out the healthy plants from the others and soak the

good
once together and sick individualy.
I only soak my plants once when I have just repot them, and for the rest I
just poor and spray them with water (+fertilizer, insectesite,...) I do

give
them a biiiiiig shower once a year in the bathtop with fertilizer and a

lot
of water. That one time a year I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.

Peter


"Ray" schreef in bericht
...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which

means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--






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Diane Mancino
 
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Default water before fertilizing?

Use the left over fertilizer on your other plants, shrubs, windowboxes. Not
a waste, your not supposed to use that much anyway. Happy violets here, they
love that I've taken up collecting the orchids

Diane
"Ray" wrote in message
...
You cannot know for sure which plants carry what.

Take viruses, for instance. Your plant may be infected, but never show

the
slightest symptom of infection. Pass the virus onto another plant via a

dip
and the same may not be true.

personally, I think that considering the time, labor, and cash invested

into
your orchid collection, you're better off to risk "wasting" fertilizer
solution though once-through watering.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
e...
But making a fresh bucket for each plant can become a very expensive

thing.
Why not try to sort out the healthy plants from the others and soak the

good
once together and sick individualy.
I only soak my plants once when I have just repot them, and for the rest

I
just poor and spray them with water (+fertilizer, insectesite,...) I do

give
them a biiiiiig shower once a year in the bathtop with fertilizer and a

lot
of water. That one time a year I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.

Peter


"Ray" schreef in bericht
...
Assume one plant is diseased. The very instant you dunk it, you have
potentially contaminated the bucket full of fertilizer solution, which


means
that any other plants dunked in the bucket can pick it up.

The issue isn't simply the bucket itself, but its contents as well.

--








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In article , "Boystrup Pb,
ann,..." writes:

I water them 4 - 5 a day. And believe me
moving 200 plants op the stairs and in to the bathroom and cleaning up
afterwerds is takes a wile and drives my parents absolutely bananas.


om goodness.. yes I can imagine how long that can take you and the clean up to
boot.. Thankfully all mine grow outside under trees and such.. They absolutely
love it there.

lynn
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