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Cypripedium Question
I know cypripedium need to be refridgerated over the winter. Everything I
have read though just says refridgerate. So, is this bare root or in the pot, or maybe in a paper bag? Shell |
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Hi Shell! I am the last to discourage you from diving in
head first, but are you sure you want to get so complicated so soon? Maybe you could start out with something deciduous first, you can get he hang of these special needs plants. Only because I think the cypripediums are in general pretty pricey. I hope you don't take offense.. because I sort of started out the way you are.. some simple stuff... then bam go straight for complicated. But the complicated stuff I at least chose was inexpensive enough that I didn't feel so bummed if I lost them. Best of luck! Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... I know cypripedium need to be refridgerated over the winter. Everything I have read though just says refridgerate. So, is this bare root or in the pot, or maybe in a paper bag? Shell |
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Well, it was only $4 so I thought I would give it a shot So if it
shrivels up and turns brown on me no big deal I wouldn't have gotten it if it had been expensive. Shell "House of Paisley" wrote in message news:j60bb.392694$Oz4.179032@rwcrnsc54... Hi Shell! I am the last to discourage you from diving in head first, but are you sure you want to get so complicated so soon? Maybe you could start out with something deciduous first, you can get he hang of these special needs plants. Only because I think the cypripediums are in general pretty pricey. I hope you don't take offense.. because I sort of started out the way you are.. some simple stuff... then bam go straight for complicated. But the complicated stuff I at least chose was inexpensive enough that I didn't feel so bummed if I lost them. Best of luck! Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... I know cypripedium need to be refridgerated over the winter. Everything I have read though just says refridgerate. So, is this bare root or in the pot, or maybe in a paper bag? Shell |
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Fair enough... good for you! Someone else will probably
answer you, but I would get one of those thermometers and get the real temperature of your fridge. I have done bulb forcing before and the fridge seemed fine for that. Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... Well, it was only $4 so I thought I would give it a shot So if it shrivels up and turns brown on me no big deal I wouldn't have gotten it if it had been expensive. Shell "House of Paisley" wrote in message news:j60bb.392694$Oz4.179032@rwcrnsc54... Hi Shell! I am the last to discourage you from diving in head first, but are you sure you want to get so complicated so soon? Maybe you could start out with something deciduous first, you can get he hang of these special needs plants. Only because I think the cypripediums are in general pretty pricey. I hope you don't take offense.. because I sort of started out the way you are.. some simple stuff... then bam go straight for complicated. But the complicated stuff I at least chose was inexpensive enough that I didn't feel so bummed if I lost them. Best of luck! Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... I know cypripedium need to be refridgerated over the winter. Everything I have read though just says refridgerate. So, is this bare root or in the pot, or maybe in a paper bag? Shell |
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Depending on what temp they need and if we have a nice cold winter here for
longer than 3 days at a time the garage is also a possibility. I'll have to put a large sign on it in the fridge to keep anyone from either trying to eat it or throwing it out. At my house if it doesn't run fast enough it gets eaten Shell "House of Paisley" wrote in message news:fB1bb.393390$cF.121329@rwcrnsc53... Fair enough... good for you! Someone else will probably answer you, but I would get one of those thermometers and get the real temperature of your fridge. I have done bulb forcing before and the fridge seemed fine for that. Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... Well, it was only $4 so I thought I would give it a shot So if it shrivels up and turns brown on me no big deal I wouldn't have gotten it if it had been expensive. Shell "House of Paisley" wrote in message news:j60bb.392694$Oz4.179032@rwcrnsc54... Hi Shell! I am the last to discourage you from diving in head first, but are you sure you want to get so complicated so soon? Maybe you could start out with something deciduous first, you can get he hang of these special needs plants. Only because I think the cypripediums are in general pretty pricey. I hope you don't take offense.. because I sort of started out the way you are.. some simple stuff... then bam go straight for complicated. But the complicated stuff I at least chose was inexpensive enough that I didn't feel so bummed if I lost them. Best of luck! Crystal -- http://home.comcast.net/~xtals/orchid.htm "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... I know cypripedium need to be refridgerated over the winter. Everything I have read though just says refridgerate. So, is this bare root or in the pot, or maybe in a paper bag? Shell |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:25:35 GMT, "Shell91"
wrote: Depending on what temp they need and if we have a nice cold winter here for longer than 3 days at a time the garage is also a possibility. I'll have to put a large sign on it in the fridge to keep anyone from either trying to eat it or throwing it out. At my house if it doesn't run fast enough it gets eaten Shell Shell - You are basically bulb forcing. So I believe that like bulb forcing you need to pot it firs. I would for your hungry hoards protection, put the pot in a bag - staple the bag and label it. http://home.netcom.com/~vchilder/bob/orchidlist.html Bob Childer used to grow them in New Orleans, with the help of a dedicated refrigerator. They moved to Texas recently and I have not seen him here. He has quite a bit of information on his web site. I hope this is helpful. Good luck. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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That was my thought too. The one time I tried tulips i did that and still
had people checking it out to see if it was edible Shell "Susan Erickson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:25:35 GMT, "Shell91" wrote: Depending on what temp they need and if we have a nice cold winter here for longer than 3 days at a time the garage is also a possibility. I'll have to put a large sign on it in the fridge to keep anyone from either trying to eat it or throwing it out. At my house if it doesn't run fast enough it gets eaten Shell Shell - You are basically bulb forcing. So I believe that like bulb forcing you need to pot it firs. I would for your hungry hoards protection, put the pot in a bag - staple the bag and label it. http://home.netcom.com/~vchilder/bob/orchidlist.html Bob Childer used to grow them in New Orleans, with the help of a dedicated refrigerator. They moved to Texas recently and I have not seen him here. He has quite a bit of information on his web site. I hope this is helpful. Good luck. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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I was told last year by an experienced grower to put in in the fridge in
a sealed plastic bag in the crisper drawer for its winter rest(if the bag isn't opaque, put then cover it or put the whole thing, bag and all, in a paper bag to keep the light out). It should have been recently watered and should not have any foliage left. If it's an acaule or other acid-lover, the pure (RO or rain) water you used to water it with should have had 1TBS/GAL of white vinegar in it. Good luck! |
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Thanks I will definitely do that
Shell "tennis maynard" wrote in message ... I was told last year by an experienced grower to put in in the fridge in a sealed plastic bag in the crisper drawer for its winter rest(if the bag isn't opaque, put then cover it or put the whole thing, bag and all, in a paper bag to keep the light out). It should have been recently watered and should not have any foliage left. If it's an acaule or other acid-lover, the pure (RO or rain) water you used to water it with should have had 1TBS/GAL of white vinegar in it. Good luck! |
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"Shell91" wrote in message gy.com...
Well, it was only $4 so I thought I would give it a shot So if it shrivels up and turns brown on me no big deal I wouldn't have gotten it if it had been expensive. What Cypripedium species do you have, and where are you located? The price suggests you got one of the collected C. acaule rhizomes that sometimes show up in large home improvement stores. Or was it a small seedling of another species? If it's the C. acaule, it has undergone some abuse already , so I would pot it up and then refrigerate it. C. acaule requires acidic conditions. The easiest mix to make up is 1:1 mix of sphagnum peat moss and coarse acidic sand. You can purchase the peat moss sand from Lowes or Home Despot, but bewa sand consituents may vary in different parts of the country. You want silica sand, not limestone. Test by treating with hydrocholoric acid (watch for foaming) or by soaking some sand in distilled water. Test the pH of the water after several days. If it is above 7.0, do not use the sand. If the pH is acidic, the sand should be safe to use. Pot the rhizome with the top of the new bud above the surface of moistened (not soaking) mix, and top dress the pot with about 3/4 inch of chopped pine needles. Put the pot in a ziplock bag and refrigerate for about four months. In the spring, water the plant with rain water or distilled water treated with a small amount of cider vinegar. Keep the pot moist but well drained. Ideally, keep the plant outside during the growing season. If you have a different species, let us know because requirements vary. Hope this helps. Nick -- |
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Cypripedium Question
Hi
Helps a lot. I got this on eBay supposedly from a farmer who had several hundred for sale. I will have to go to Lowe's and get some peat sand to pot it in and stick it in the fridge I think it's Cypripedium acaule going by the picture in the auction add. Shell "Myrmecodia" wrote in message om... "Shell91" wrote in message gy.com... Well, it was only $4 so I thought I would give it a shot So if it shrivels up and turns brown on me no big deal I wouldn't have gotten it if it had been expensive. What Cypripedium species do you have, and where are you located? The price suggests you got one of the collected C. acaule rhizomes that sometimes show up in large home improvement stores. Or was it a small seedling of another species? If it's the C. acaule, it has undergone some abuse already , so I would pot it up and then refrigerate it. C. acaule requires acidic conditions. The easiest mix to make up is 1:1 mix of sphagnum peat moss and coarse acidic sand. You can purchase the peat moss sand from Lowes or Home Despot, but bewa sand consituents may vary in different parts of the country. You want silica sand, not limestone. Test by treating with hydrocholoric acid (watch for foaming) or by soaking some sand in distilled water. Test the pH of the water after several days. If it is above 7.0, do not use the sand. If the pH is acidic, the sand should be safe to use. Pot the rhizome with the top of the new bud above the surface of moistened (not soaking) mix, and top dress the pot with about 3/4 inch of chopped pine needles. Put the pot in a ziplock bag and refrigerate for about four months. In the spring, water the plant with rain water or distilled water treated with a small amount of cider vinegar. Keep the pot moist but well drained. Ideally, keep the plant outside during the growing season. If you have a different species, let us know because requirements vary. Hope this helps. Nick -- |
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Cypripedium Question
I see I dropped a critical "and" from my previous message. You can
buy peat moss AND sand at Lowes, but they will be separate. The peat moss is compressed bales in the gardening section, and the sand will be with the cement. In my area the general purpose sand is silica sand that is suitable for use with terrestrial orchids and carnivorous plants. Nick -- "Shell91" wrote in message digy.com... Hi Helps a lot. I got this on eBay supposedly from a farmer who had several hundred for sale. I will have to go to Lowe's and get some peat sand to pot it in and stick it in the fridge I think it's Cypripedium acaule going by the picture in the auction add. Shell "Myrmecodia" wrote in message moss and coarse acidic sand. You can purchase the peat moss sand from Lowes or Home Despot |
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Great got the peat moss today. Will go get the sand tomorrow when I go
curb shopping. Shell "Myrmecodia" wrote in message om... I see I dropped a critical "and" from my previous message. You can buy peat moss AND sand at Lowes, but they will be separate. The peat moss is compressed bales in the gardening section, and the sand will be with the cement. In my area the general purpose sand is silica sand that is suitable for use with terrestrial orchids and carnivorous plants. Nick -- "Shell91" wrote in message digy.com... Hi Helps a lot. I got this on eBay supposedly from a farmer who had several hundred for sale. I will have to go to Lowe's and get some peat sand to pot it in and stick it in the fridge I think it's Cypripedium acaule going by the picture in the auction add. Shell "Myrmecodia" wrote in message moss and coarse acidic sand. You can purchase the peat moss sand from Lowes or Home Despot |
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