Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon, mine
too I hope.

Bob

Yeah, someone at the SEPOS meeting got theirs today. I'm still waiting.....

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"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
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Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon, mine
too I hope.

Bob

"Ray" wrote in message ...
Yeah, someone at the SEPOS meeting got theirs today. I'm still waiting.....

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"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
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Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon, mine
too I hope.

Bob




I quit paying AOS for no benefits but a magazine that is always late,
has a screwed up format and cannot compare to Orchid Digest (although
they tried) I am also not going to support a group that undercuts the
growers in their area around them buy buying in plants and selling
them at just above wholesale prices. They are constantly running
articles about old folks in orchids who contribute large sums to them.
Who cares about people that far back in time?? There are younger folks
making great strides in improving orchid growing for all of us. GET
USED TO LATE DELIVERIES !!! Good growing, Bill

As a pretty thoroughly soused orchidoholic, I try to get my hands on
anything related.

I have been an AOS member for over 20 years, have benefited little beyond
the magazine (which I still want to call the "Bulletin"), and simply don't
worry about whether it's late or not.

On those rare occasions when it never arrived or had a printing fold or
error, I made a phone call and was sent a replacement.

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"William Hill" wrote in message
om...
"Ray" wrote in message
...
Yeah, someone at the SEPOS meeting got theirs today. I'm still
waiting.....

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Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:J1kNb.53980$5V2.66268@attbi_s53...
Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of
Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon,
mine
too I hope.

Bob




I quit paying AOS for no benefits but a magazine that is always late,
has a screwed up format and cannot compare to Orchid Digest (although
they tried) I am also not going to support a group that undercuts the
growers in their area around them buy buying in plants and selling
them at just above wholesale prices. They are constantly running
articles about old folks in orchids who contribute large sums to them.
Who cares about people that far back in time?? There are younger folks
making great strides in improving orchid growing for all of us. GET
USED TO LATE DELIVERIES !!! Good growing, Bill

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:36:35 -0500, "Ray"
wrote:

As a pretty thoroughly soused orchidoholic, I try to get my hands on
anything related.

I have been an AOS member for over 20 years, have benefited little beyond
the magazine (which I still want to call the "Bulletin"), and simply don't
worry about whether it's late or not.

On those rare occasions when it never arrived or had a printing fold or
error, I made a phone call and was sent a replacement.

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

We have been close to 30 years. I remember when they were
soliciting funds to be able to publish the "Bulletin" in color.
This is such an improvement. Color and photography gets better
and better. Articles, as always, come and go with the 'climate'
in the hobby.

I would not give up Orchid Digest, once I saw the delightful
articles and marvelous photography. Not long ago, they forgot to
mail to the entire state of CO. It seemed that everyone else had
gotten their magazine, but ours were never shipped. When the
error was pointed out, it was reshipped. I often wondered if
some areas received two copies, or if they were able to find the
actual cause and isolate who was missed.

And lately I have wondered if the Aussie magazine might not be a
good idea. As Ray said, you can not have too much about orchids.


SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:36:35 -0500, "Ray"
wrote:

As a pretty thoroughly soused orchidoholic, I try to get my hands on
anything related.

I have been an AOS member for over 20 years, have benefited little beyond
the magazine (which I still want to call the "Bulletin"), and simply don't
worry about whether it's late or not.

On those rare occasions when it never arrived or had a printing fold or
error, I made a phone call and was sent a replacement.

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

We have been close to 30 years. I remember when they were
soliciting funds to be able to publish the "Bulletin" in color.
This is such an improvement. Color and photography gets better
and better. Articles, as always, come and go with the 'climate'
in the hobby.

I would not give up Orchid Digest, once I saw the delightful
articles and marvelous photography. Not long ago, they forgot to
mail to the entire state of CO. It seemed that everyone else had
gotten their magazine, but ours were never shipped. When the
error was pointed out, it was reshipped. I often wondered if
some areas received two copies, or if they were able to find the
actual cause and isolate who was missed.

And lately I have wondered if the Aussie magazine might not be a
good idea. As Ray said, you can not have too much about orchids.


SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Wow Ray! Where do you store all these books?
Just curious as I am a regular hamster but not organised.
--
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"Ray" wrote in message
...
As a pretty thoroughly soused orchidoholic, I try to get my hands on
anything related.

I have been an AOS member for over 20 years, have benefited little beyond
the magazine (which I still want to call the "Bulletin"), and simply don't
worry about whether it's late or not.

On those rare occasions when it never arrived or had a printing fold or
error, I made a phone call and was sent a replacement.

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"William Hill" wrote in message
om...
"Ray" wrote in message
...
Yeah, someone at the SEPOS meeting got theirs today. I'm still
waiting.....

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Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
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Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of
Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive
soon,
mine
too I hope.

Bob




I quit paying AOS for no benefits but a magazine that is always late,
has a screwed up format and cannot compare to Orchid Digest (although
they tried) I am also not going to support a group that undercuts the
growers in their area around them buy buying in plants and selling
them at just above wholesale prices. They are constantly running
articles about old folks in orchids who contribute large sums to them.
Who cares about people that far back in time?? There are younger folks
making great strides in improving orchid growing for all of us. GET
USED TO LATE DELIVERIES !!! Good growing, Bill

Wow Ray! Where do you store all these books?
Just curious as I am a regular hamster but not organised.
--
Cheers Wendy
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"Ray" wrote in message
...
As a pretty thoroughly soused orchidoholic, I try to get my hands on
anything related.

I have been an AOS member for over 20 years, have benefited little beyond
the magazine (which I still want to call the "Bulletin"), and simply don't
worry about whether it's late or not.

On those rare occasions when it never arrived or had a printing fold or
error, I made a phone call and was sent a replacement.

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"William Hill" wrote in message
om...
"Ray" wrote in message
...
Yeah, someone at the SEPOS meeting got theirs today. I'm still
waiting.....

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:J1kNb.53980$5V2.66268@attbi_s53...
Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of
Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive
soon,
mine
too I hope.

Bob




I quit paying AOS for no benefits but a magazine that is always late,
has a screwed up format and cannot compare to Orchid Digest (although
they tried) I am also not going to support a group that undercuts the
growers in their area around them buy buying in plants and selling
them at just above wholesale prices. They are constantly running
articles about old folks in orchids who contribute large sums to them.
Who cares about people that far back in time?? There are younger folks
making great strides in improving orchid growing for all of us. GET
USED TO LATE DELIVERIES !!! Good growing, Bill

All,

This is my last year of AOS membership. I renewed this past fall mostly so
that I could have a leg to stand on to complain. I've given up on even
that - there's a sense that no one will listen - they do too much navel
gazing down in Florida.

The magazine has consistently been on a level way below what I am interested
in, and I've had it arrive before the 5th of the month less than 5 times in
the 3 years I have been a member.

The magazine may look good, but they have no excuse for not getting it out
in a timely fashion, since the magazine staff is PAID, unlike Orchid Digest,
which is entirely volunteer run. I've said it before - any other magazine in
the USA with a paid professional staff would have fired the staff if the
magazine was as consistently late as Orchids is.

My $40 will go as a donation towards OrchidDigest's year-end issue for 2004
this year.

-Eric in SF

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:J1kNb.53980$5V2.66268@attbi_s53...
Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon, mine
too I hope.

Bob

Personally, I think the obsessing over the prompt delivery is a waste of
effort.

Does anyone complain when the April issue of something is delivered in late
February? It's all BS, anyway. If the AOS said that the current issue was
for February, nobody would have said a word.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Eric Hunt" wrote in message
...
All,

This is my last year of AOS membership. I renewed this past fall mostly so
that I could have a leg to stand on to complain. I've given up on even
that - there's a sense that no one will listen - they do too much navel
gazing down in Florida.

The magazine has consistently been on a level way below what I am
interested
in, and I've had it arrive before the 5th of the month less than 5 times
in
the 3 years I have been a member.

The magazine may look good, but they have no excuse for not getting it out
in a timely fashion, since the magazine staff is PAID, unlike Orchid
Digest,
which is entirely volunteer run. I've said it before - any other magazine
in
the USA with a paid professional staff would have fired the staff if the
magazine was as consistently late as Orchids is.

My $40 will go as a donation towards OrchidDigest's year-end issue for
2004
this year.

-Eric in SF

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:J1kNb.53980$5V2.66268@attbi_s53...
Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of
Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon,
mine
too I hope.

Bob

If you started in the attic, came down through the bedrooms, down again into
my office, and then down into the basement, you'd find a smattering at each
level!

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Wendy" wrote in message
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Wow Ray! Where do you store all these books?
Just curious as I am a regular hamster but not organised.
--
Cheers Wendy
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"Ray" wrote in message
...
As a pretty thoroughly soused orchidoholic, I try to get my hands on
anything related.

I have been an AOS member for over 20 years, have benefited little
beyond
the magazine (which I still want to call the "Bulletin"), and simply
don't
worry about whether it's late or not.

On those rare occasions when it never arrived or had a printing fold or
error, I made a phone call and was sent a replacement.

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"William Hill" wrote in message
om...
"Ray" wrote in message
...
Yeah, someone at the SEPOS meeting got theirs today. I'm still
waiting.....

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:J1kNb.53980$5V2.66268@attbi_s53...
Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of
Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive
soon,
mine
too I hope.

Bob




I quit paying AOS for no benefits but a magazine that is always late,
has a screwed up format and cannot compare to Orchid Digest (although
they tried) I am also not going to support a group that undercuts the
growers in their area around them buy buying in plants and selling
them at just above wholesale prices. They are constantly running
articles about old folks in orchids who contribute large sums to them.
Who cares about people that far back in time?? There are younger folks
making great strides in improving orchid growing for all of us. GET
USED TO LATE DELIVERIES !!! Good growing, Bill

"Ray" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

Now the IPA publication interests me. What's it like, Ray? How much are
dues, how many issues a year, what's in it?
--
Reka

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Personally, I think the obsessing over the prompt delivery is a waste of
effort.

Here, here! Now, if the delivery guy misses me on the NY Times route, THEN
we have conversations! G

Diana

Can I ask a question? Where is it written that it has to arrive by a
certain date? I can't find that rule anywhere.

I really don't think it's a big problem but then again I only just
subscribed recently.

I know there are specials in the magazine but does it really matter as long
as you get it?


"Eric Hunt" wrote in message
...
All,

This is my last year of AOS membership. I renewed this past fall mostly so
that I could have a leg to stand on to complain. I've given up on even
that - there's a sense that no one will listen - they do too much navel
gazing down in Florida.

The magazine has consistently been on a level way below what I am
interested
in, and I've had it arrive before the 5th of the month less than 5 times
in
the 3 years I have been a member.

The magazine may look good, but they have no excuse for not getting it out
in a timely fashion, since the magazine staff is PAID, unlike Orchid
Digest,
which is entirely volunteer run. I've said it before - any other magazine
in
the USA with a paid professional staff would have fired the staff if the
magazine was as consistently late as Orchids is.

My $40 will go as a donation towards OrchidDigest's year-end issue for
2004
this year.

-Eric in SF

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:J1kNb.53980$5V2.66268@attbi_s53...
Just in case some of you are wondering where your January issue of
Orchids
is, they were all mailed on the 9th of Jan. Yours should arrive soon,
mine
too I hope.

Bob

www.phal.org

The mag is quarterly, about the same size as "Orchids," but only about 35-40
pages with fewer ads.

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Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Reka" wrote in message
...
"Ray" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

I also get the Orchid Digest, and recently joined the IPA as much to get
their mag as anything. It's an orchid publication...

Now the IPA publication interests me. What's it like, Ray? How much are
dues, how many issues a year, what's in it?
--
Reka

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html



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