I am curious for some feedback from those who grow green-leaved paph
*species* inside the house - esp. regarding how they handle any sort of
winter rest.

Thanks!

John

I grow some green-leaved, mostly one-flowered species in a western bedroom
window. They have slightly different temperature needs so I placed them
differently according to that. I open a part of the (three-part) window
during the nights. It gets cold, as I live in the middle of Sweden, but if I
open the window just a little, the temperatures are just perfect.

Closest to the window are P fairrieanum, spicerianum and henryanum. Then
comes gratrixianum and a couple of unnamed hybrids, also green-leaved.

I have the paphs in baskets hanging in the middle of the window, as I have
other orchids below them, which I want to have a higher humidity than the
paphs. From my experience the paphs don't take too well to water on the
leaves and flowers (esp gratrixianum).

The temperatures during the winter goes down to 10 C at nights for the first
group, and maybe 15 for the second. 15-20 during the day, depends on what is
most comfortable for me. I like sleeping/living in cold temperatures anyway.
They grow and flower well under the circumstances, but I have never had a
greenhouse so I do not have anything to compare with.

When I lived at home with my parents I used a bathroom out of order for my
cooler growers. I never heated it at all, just opened the door in the winter
to regulate the temp if needed. It was easy to keep the humidity high, as
the communal water was soft, I used the shower to wet the walls in the
morning. Pretty much handled itself...

Which species are you planning to grow? I suppose you mean the
one/two-flowered species as they tend to need cooler winter rest than the
multi-flowered?
My favourite is the smaller cold-growing species. They are quite hard to
find, and expensive, but small and beautiful.

//Via

"john beasley" skrev i meddelandet
. ..
I am curious for some feedback from those who grow green-leaved paph
*species* inside the house - esp. regarding how they handle any sort of
winter rest.

Thanks!

John

Via, thank you for your response. I actually have three (and want more).
One is a "bulldog complex hybrid", so I don't expect it will be too fussy
but I haven't had it long enough to know. My main concern is a Paph
markianum (aka tigrinum) that I bought about a year and a half ago. It
didn't bloom last spring. If it doesn't bloom this spring, I'll know I have
to do something more drastic because it is otherwise quite healthy, with
multiple growths. I've learned that I can get the temps down to around 50
if I open my bedroom windows at the top and bottom, and then pull the shade
down between the plants and the room. Thing is, it's a hassle to do that
every night and I'd rather not unless strictly necessary. Probably too late
to worry about it this year anyway. I think the critical time is late fall
early winter. I also have a henryanum and have wondered how critical the
cooling is for it. Thanks again for your input.

John

P.S. Tropical orchids in Sweden - Cool !!

Via, thank you for your response. I actually have three (and want more).
One is a "bulldog complex hybrid", so I don't expect it will be too fussy
but I haven't had it long enough to know. My main concern is a Paph
markianum (aka tigrinum) that I bought about a year and a half ago. It
didn't bloom last spring. If it doesn't bloom this spring, I'll know I have
to do something more drastic because it is otherwise quite healthy, with
multiple growths. I've learned that I can get the temps down to around 50
if I open my bedroom windows at the top and bottom, and then pull the shade
down between the plants and the room. Thing is, it's a hassle to do that
every night and I'd rather not unless strictly necessary. Probably too late
to worry about it this year anyway. I think the critical time is late fall
early winter. I also have a henryanum and have wondered how critical the
cooling is for it. Thanks again for your input.

John

P.S. Tropical orchids in Sweden - Cool !!

Well, at least it is growing and not dying...
Species have a tendency to sulk, maybe that is what your tigrinum is doing.
On the other hand, maybe this will be the spring it stops sulking.
If the new growths isn't more than a year old, the reason they haven't
flowered might be that the species bloom on the one-year-old growths. Some
species do that. It is generally "bred out" in hybrids as it is a negative
trait for the grower.
If the plant grows slowly the new growths maybe haven't had a chance to
develop yet.

Your temperature conditions sounds good, but I agree that it is a hassle to
do something everyday (timers for the lights is a wonderful invention... )

Tropical orchids in Sweden is cool! We have a quite active society here, but
I am so jealous of all the places you can order from as an American. We do
have an orchids-only shop in Stockholm, though. The only specialised one in
Europe they say... But no growers and few importers.

Via

"john beasley" skrev i meddelandet
. ..
Via, thank you for your response. I actually have three (and want more).
One is a "bulldog complex hybrid", so I don't expect it will be too fussy
but I haven't had it long enough to know. My main concern is a Paph
markianum (aka tigrinum) that I bought about a year and a half ago. It
didn't bloom last spring. If it doesn't bloom this spring, I'll know I
have
to do something more drastic because it is otherwise quite healthy, with
multiple growths. I've learned that I can get the temps down to around 50
if I open my bedroom windows at the top and bottom, and then pull the
shade
down between the plants and the room. Thing is, it's a hassle to do that
every night and I'd rather not unless strictly necessary. Probably too
late
to worry about it this year anyway. I think the critical time is late
fall
early winter. I also have a henryanum and have wondered how critical the
cooling is for it. Thanks again for your input.

John

P.S. Tropical orchids in Sweden - Cool !!

"Hillevi P" writes:
I am so jealous of all the places you can order from as an American. We do
have an orchids-only shop in Stockholm, though. The only specialised one in
Europe they say... But no growers and few importers.

Nope. There is one in Oslo as well, run by a guy that is also a
grower.

Geir

"Geir Harris Hedemark" skrev i meddelandet
...
"Hillevi P" writes:
I am so jealous of all the places you can order from as an American. We
do
have an orchids-only shop in Stockholm, though. The only specialised one
in
Europe they say... But no growers and few importers.

Nope. There is one in Oslo as well, run by a guy that is also a
grower.

Geir

Ah, sorry, I think I know which one you mean. But it is only orchids? I
thought he had bromeliads and the like as well... (OTH, orchidéhuset in
Sthlm has ferns an stuff to...).
Also, (to clarify), by "no growers", I meant in Sweden, and I meant growers
that grow from seed...

Are there lots of scandinavians on this group?
I'm new, was planning to lurk a while, but couldn't keep my hands from the
keyboard =)

//Via

"Hillevi P" writes:
Ah, sorry, I think I know which one you mean. But it is only orchids? I
thought he had bromeliads and the like as well... (OTH, orchidéhuset in
Sthlm has ferns an stuff to...).

He didn't the last time I was there. It was all orchids from wall to
wall. You can find his homepage on http://www.orkidespesialisten.no

Also, (to clarify), by "no growers", I meant in Sweden, and I meant growers
that grow from seed...

I think this guy buys small plants and nurses them to maturity before
he sells them.

Are there lots of scandinavians on this group?

Nah, don't think so.

Geir

Nice. I'll have to visit him when I go to Oslo next time.


"Geir Harris Hedemark" skrev i meddelandet
...
"Hillevi P" writes:
Ah, sorry, I think I know which one you mean. But it is only orchids? I
thought he had bromeliads and the like as well... (OTH, orchidéhuset in
Sthlm has ferns an stuff to...).

He didn't the last time I was there. It was all orchids from wall to
wall. You can find his homepage on http://www.orkidespesialisten.no

Also, (to clarify), by "no growers", I meant in Sweden, and I meant
growers
that grow from seed...

I think this guy buys small plants and nurses them to maturity before
he sells them.

Are there lots of scandinavians on this group?

Nah, don't think so.

Geir

Via,

I don't think there are lots of Scandinavians, but we do have a nice group
of people from different places. White Monkey (Katrina) is Dutch. Reka lives
in Italy. Claude is French, I believe. We also have several Australians.
Even though I live in the US now, I grew up in Poland and Austria. I think I
remember seeing someone for whom German was their native language. And I
recall a message from someone from Singapore, but I don't remember how long
ago that was. In the hope of finding out more, I started a new thread
"international orchid experience?" inspired by your posts :-)

Joanna

"Hillevi P" wrote in message
...
Are there lots of scandinavians on this group?

I hope it did not look like I searched for other scandinavians to talk too,
I was just curious. Most people I know that collects orchids are not very
computer literate.

I guess it is too late now, but I might as well ask if I should introduce
myself to the group? I searched, but could not find any FAQ for this group.
As I previously stated, I planned to lurk, but... well, it didn't go too
well

//Via


"J Fortuna" skrev i meddelandet
...
Via,

I don't think there are lots of Scandinavians, but we do have a nice group
of people from different places. White Monkey (Katrina) is Dutch. Reka
lives
in Italy. Claude is French, I believe. We also have several Australians.
Even though I live in the US now, I grew up in Poland and Austria. I think
I
remember seeing someone for whom German was their native language. And I
recall a message from someone from Singapore, but I don't remember how
long
ago that was. In the hope of finding out more, I started a new thread
"international orchid experience?" inspired by your posts :-)

Joanna

"Hillevi P" wrote in message
...
Are there lots of scandinavians on this group?

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:34:08 +0100, "Hillevi P"
wrote:
I guess it is too late now, but I might as well ask if I should introduce
myself to the group? I searched, but could not find any FAQ for this group.
As I previously stated, I planned to lurk, but... well, it didn't go too
well

//Via
Welcome -

We have tried several times to put together a FAQ. But we always
get to the point that if we do, we have to post the new grower
questions. Then it gets so long no one wants to host and repost
it. So we bumble along with "standard courtesy" and "no binaries
posted" as our only rules. We are loosely connected - 90% of us
post - to a binary news group, alt.binaries.pictures.orchids .

Sue in Colorado, who had to marry into it to be Scandinavian. G
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:34:08 +0100, "Hillevi P"
wrote:
I guess it is too late now, but I might as well ask if I should introduce
myself to the group? I searched, but could not find any FAQ for this group.
As I previously stated, I planned to lurk, but... well, it didn't go too
well

//Via
Welcome -

We have tried several times to put together a FAQ. But we always
get to the point that if we do, we have to post the new grower
questions. Then it gets so long no one wants to host and repost
it. So we bumble along with "standard courtesy" and "no binaries
posted" as our only rules. We are loosely connected - 90% of us
post - to a binary news group, alt.binaries.pictures.orchids .

Sue in Colorado, who had to marry into it to be Scandinavian. G
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Susan Erickson wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:34:08 +0100, "Hillevi P"
wrote:


I guess it is too late now, but I might as well ask if I should introduce
myself to the group? I searched, but could not find any FAQ for this group.
As I previously stated, I planned to lurk, but... well, it didn't go too
well

//Via


Welcome -

We have tried several times to put together a FAQ. But we always
get to the point that if we do, we have to post the new grower
questions. Then it gets so long no one wants to host and repost
it. So we bumble along with "standard courtesy" and "no binaries
posted" as our only rules. We are loosely connected - 90% of us
post - to a binary news group, alt.binaries.pictures.orchids .



And some of us would like to be connected to ABPO but for some
reason can't get access through their university news servers... And
no, I don't see why I should have to pay for another news server.
Ooops, that slipped into a rant. I have a few basics on orchids on my
website (see .sig), which I started writing as a sort of FAQ years ago.
Many many years ago. It hasn't been updated since.

Sue in Colorado, who had to marry into it to be Scandinavian. G
SuE


Born mostly Scandinavian (just what is the etymology of that word,
anyway??) by phenotype, mutt by genotype. I think it helps for
surviving Michigan. I hear that I have distant cousins in Sweden
somewhere. Someday I'll run into them on the internet... *grin*

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Don't forget Kenneth Bruyccinyx (gad I really mis-spelled that!) who is
Dutch.

K Barrett

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
...
Via,

I don't think there are lots of Scandinavians, but we do have a nice group
of people from different places. White Monkey (Katrina) is Dutch. Reka
lives
in Italy. Claude is French, I believe. We also have several Australians.
Even though I live in the US now, I grew up in Poland and Austria. I think
I
remember seeing someone for whom German was their native language. And I
recall a message from someone from Singapore, but I don't remember how
long
ago that was. In the hope of finding out more, I started a new thread
"international orchid experience?" inspired by your posts :-)

Joanna

"Hillevi P" wrote in message
...
Are there lots of scandinavians on this group?