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Can someone identify this plant?
I took this picture on a farm in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica and I have
no idea what the plant is. I don't have a picture of the whole plant, just this fruit with some leaves. Anyone know it? http://home.flash.net/~gallo/plant.jpg |
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Can someone identify this plant?
Greg Galloway schreef
I took this picture on a farm in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica and I have no idea what the plant is. I don't have a picture of the whole plant, just this fruit with some leaves. Anyone know it? http://home.flash.net/~gallo/plant.jpg + + + No. Likely it belongs to the Lauraceae? PvR PS: nice picture! |
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Can someone identify this plant?
"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message .. .
Greg Galloway schreef I took this picture on a farm in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica and I have no idea what the plant is. I don't have a picture of the whole plant, just this fruit with some leaves. Anyone know it? http://home.flash.net/~gallo/plant.jpg + + + No. Likely it belongs to the Lauraceae? PvR PS: nice picture! Thanks. I checked all the Lauraceae pics I could find on the net and have still not identified it. They look really similar though. I have a few more pics of plants and critters from CR if anyone wants to see them. Bonus points for identifying the unidentified ones. http://12.210.157.139/pics/crbio/ |
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Can someone identify this plant?
http://home.flash.net/~gallo/plant.jpg
+ + + No. Likely it belongs to the Lauraceae? PvR PS: nice picture! ====== mel turner schreef Try _Morinda citrifolia_, family Rubiaceae. If this ID is correct, those are flower buds, not a fruit. [I think there should eventually be many more flowers in a head, and much more fusion of the flowers/fruits: http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b...es/mor_cit.jpg http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/jpg1/m-citri.jpg http://www.nybg.org/bsci/res/MORINDA.HTML http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty...es/mor_cit.jpg http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty...lowerFruit.htm [scroll down] So, maybe not a perfect match, but perhaps it's close? + + + I would like to agree, if only because a cultivated species is always more likely than something local, but I don't believe so. Firstly all those knobs are approximately the same size and shape, while all the flower buds in pictures of Morinda citrifolia are always at different stages of development. Secondly these knobs really don't look like flower buds (OK, I cannot tell for sure). I will also admit that the way of clustering is rather unlike most Lauraceae, this is more reminiscent of Annonaceae (which this is not: the leaves are opposite), but I would not preclude this occurring. Lauraceae are irregular as concerns opposite leaves: some do, some don't. So I will stick to my guess of this being one of the Lauraceae, readily admitting this is far from sure. PvR |
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http://home.flash.net/~gallo/plant.jpg
+ + + No. Likely it belongs to the Lauraceae? PvR PS: nice picture! ====== mel turner schreef Try _Morinda citrifolia_, family Rubiaceae. If this ID is correct, those are flower buds, not a fruit. [I think there should eventually be many more flowers in a head, and much more fusion of the flowers/fruits: http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b...es/mor_cit.jpg http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/jpg1/m-citri.jpg http://www.nybg.org/bsci/res/MORINDA.HTML http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty...es/mor_cit.jpg http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty...lowerFruit.htm [scroll down] So, maybe not a perfect match, but perhaps it's close? + + + I would like to agree, if only because a cultivated species is always more likely than something local, but I don't believe so. Firstly all those knobs are approximately the same size and shape, while all the flower buds in pictures of Morinda citrifolia are always at different stages of development. Secondly these knobs really don't look like flower buds (OK, I cannot tell for sure). I will also admit that the way of clustering is rather unlike most Lauraceae, this is more reminiscent of Annonaceae (which this is not: the leaves are opposite), but I would not preclude this occurring. Lauraceae are irregular as concerns opposite leaves: some do, some don't. So I will stick to my guess of this being one of the Lauraceae, readily admitting this is far from sure. PvR |
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Can someone identify this plant?
Actually, I think you (mel) might have it with the Morinda Citrifolia. The
"fruit" shown on the pages that you posted was present around the tree. I guess I failed to make the association between the spiky ball on the tree and other (I assume more mature) brainy looking clumps that were around. I was told that it was originally imported, IIRC from some polynesian island, to Costa Rica. It is locally called "Noni" and has been used by the nearby BriBri tribe as a cure-all medicine. Apparently it has also caused a craze in the health food / alternative medicine industries. The owner of the farm did show me a ripe "fruit" and it was the most malodorous clump of juice I ever had the misfortune to handle. It left a disgusting smell on my hand that was very hard to wash away. Thanks for the info everyone! Definitely take a trip to CR if you ever get a chance. There is enough to see and do to keep any curious person busy for a long time. Plus it is cheap and the beer is excellent. Greg "P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ... http://home.flash.net/~gallo/plant.jpg + + + No. Likely it belongs to the Lauraceae? PvR PS: nice picture! ====== mel turner schreef Try _Morinda citrifolia_, family Rubiaceae. If this ID is correct, those are flower buds, not a fruit. [I think there should eventually be many more flowers in a head, and much more fusion of the flowers/fruits: http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b...es/mor_cit.jpg http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/jpg1/m-citri.jpg http://www.nybg.org/bsci/res/MORINDA.HTML http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty...es/mor_cit.jpg http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty...lowerFruit.htm [scroll down] So, maybe not a perfect match, but perhaps it's close? + + + I would like to agree, if only because a cultivated species is always more likely than something local, but I don't believe so. Firstly all those knobs are approximately the same size and shape, while all the flower buds in pictures of Morinda citrifolia are always at different stages of development. Secondly these knobs really don't look like flower buds (OK, I cannot tell for sure). I will also admit that the way of clustering is rather unlike most Lauraceae, this is more reminiscent of Annonaceae (which this is not: the leaves are opposite), but I would not preclude this occurring. Lauraceae are irregular as concerns opposite leaves: some do, some don't. So I will stick to my guess of this being one of the Lauraceae, readily admitting this is far from sure. PvR |
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OK, I concede. No point in quarreling with the evidence!
Glad you have it to name. PvR Greg G schreef Actually, I think you (mel) might have it with the Morinda Citrifolia. The "fruit" shown on the pages that you posted was present around the tree. I guess I failed to make the association between the spiky ball on the tree and other (I assume more mature) brainy looking clumps that were around. I was told that it was originally imported, IIRC from some polynesian island, to Costa Rica. It is locally called "Noni" and has been used by the nearby BriBri tribe as a cure-all medicine. Apparently it has also caused a craze in the health food / alternative medicine industries. The owner of the farm did show me a ripe "fruit" and it was the most malodorous clump of juice I ever had the misfortune to handle. It left a disgusting smell on my hand that was very hard to wash away. Thanks for the info everyone! Definitely take a trip to CR if you ever get a chance. There is enough to see and do to keep any curious person busy for a long time. Plus it is cheap and the beer is excellent. Greg |
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mel turner schreef
Well, you had me mostly convinced that it must be something else, although I couldn't go along with the Lauraceae idea [I've never seen any Lauraceae with heads anything like this, and few if any with opposite leaves]. If those were fruits and not flower buds, it obviously couldn't be Morinda or any other Rubiaceae, but I still had no good ideas where else to start looking. + + + I suppose that those receptacle-lookalikes gave me the wrong idea, even if in Lauraceae, whatever form they take (quite a bit of variation possible) they tend to be neatly cylindrical in circumference. Indeed those heads are unlauraceous [?] but inflorescences like Umbellularia californica do exist and something similar might result in a "head" of fruits. Opposite leafs do occur in Lauraceae, but are not common. I guess I should be more careful when it comes to guessing PvR |
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So I will stick to my guess of this being one of the Lauraceae, readily
admitting this is far from sure. Nah. It is a lighting fixture from the Elbonian subway. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Can someone identify this plant?
So I will stick to my guess of this being one of the Lauraceae, readily
admitting this is far from sure. Nah. It is a lighting fixture from the Elbonian subway. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Iris Cohen schreef :
Nah. It is a lighting fixture from the Elbonian subway. Iris, + + + Shht! Don't give them any ideas. There are too many silly looking lighting fixtures as is. PvR |
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Can someone identify this plant?
mel turner schreef
[shrug] I don't really see why you should-- there's no penalty for anyone proposing a plausible hypothesis that seems to fit the data, even if it later gets rejected. cheers + + + Obviously I do a lot of guessing, but not out in public, and only when this has a chance of contributing something useful. There is not much point in confusing the issue with guesses when there is a fair chance that there is somebody around who may actually know. PvR |
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