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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Well, osage orange fruits (hedge apples, monkey balls, etc.) *are*
reputed to repel cockroaches, but given that the fruits rot rather readily and ooze a hard-to-scrub-off milky latex, it's a bit of a toss-up as to whether it's easier to deal with them or the roaches... M. Reed |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Monique Reed schreef
Well, osage orange fruits (hedge apples, monkey balls, etc.) *are* reputed to repel cockroaches, but given that the fruits rot rather readily and ooze a hard-to-scrub-off milky latex, it's a bit of a toss-up as to whether it's easier to deal with them or the roaches... M. Reed + + + Now who is nitpicking? But you are making unwarranted assumptions The OP wanted to drive away spiders, so presumably he loves insects (which would otherwise be eaten by spiders) and maybe roaches ... Anyway now that we know what he means we can advise him that this effect (whatever it may be) can also be achieved by using a distillate of the fruit, avoiding the oozing and rotting fruit. (maybe he could fill an ostrich eggshell with extract making both stories come true, or not) PvR |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Monique Reed wrote:
Well, osage orange fruits (hedge apples, monkey balls, etc.) *are* reputed to repel cockroaches, but given that the fruits rot rather readily and ooze a hard-to-scrub-off milky latex, it's a bit of a toss-up as to whether it's easier to deal with them or the roaches... The question is really whether you would want to deal with hedge apples *and* roaches, or just the roaches by themselves. The arthropod-repellant properties of Osage Orange seem to be mostly wishful thinking, whereas its anthropoid-repellant properties are indisputable. http://lancaster.unl.edu/enviro/pest...HedgeApple.htm Micah Mabelitini -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Monique Reed wrote in message ...
Well, osage orange fruits (hedge apples, monkey balls, etc.) *are* reputed to repel cockroaches, but given that the fruits rot rather readily and ooze a hard-to-scrub-off milky latex, it's a bit of a toss-up as to whether it's easier to deal with them or the roaches... M. Reed It's a beautiful tree. The Bois D'arc is native here in Dallas. Most of the older homes sit on rot resistant piers of Bois D'arc that termites can't enter. They eat the cambium only. The fresh cut wood is beautiful in its spectrum of yellows. A neighbor friend whose knees are disabled carves canes from the limbs that I bring to him. I fashioned a bower from some limbs and hung a bird feeder in it. When preferred forage is scarce the squirrels will eat the seeds. During the past twenty-five years I have not seen a Bois D'arc that was diseased or infested with destructive insects. For an experiment sharpen a twenty penny nail and try to drive it into a Bios D'arc wih a four pound hammer. Caution! Wear body armor and a face shield. Roaches, too common here, are best controlled with boric acid. -Gaiawar |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Maybe we should use boric acid to get rid of you too, Gawkward?!!!
Would appear you have an osage orange passing for a monkey brain too!!!! Gaiawar wrote in message om... Monique Reed wrote in message ... Well, osage orange fruits (hedge apples, monkey balls, etc.) *are* reputed to repel cockroaches, but given that the fruits rot rather readily and ooze a hard-to-scrub-off milky latex, it's a bit of a toss-up as to whether it's easier to deal with them or the roaches... M. Reed It's a beautiful tree. The Bois D'arc is native here in Dallas. Most of the older homes sit on rot resistant piers of Bois D'arc that termites can't enter. They eat the cambium only. The fresh cut wood is beautiful in its spectrum of yellows. A neighbor friend whose knees are disabled carves canes from the limbs that I bring to him. I fashioned a bower from some limbs and hung a bird feeder in it. When preferred forage is scarce the squirrels will eat the seeds. During the past twenty-five years I have not seen a Bois D'arc that was diseased or infested with destructive insects. For an experiment sharpen a twenty penny nail and try to drive it into a Bios D'arc wih a four pound hammer. Caution! Wear body armor and a face shield. Roaches, too common here, are best controlled with boric acid. -Gaiawar |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
It's a beautiful tree. The Bois D'arc
+ + + That would be "bois d'arc" or "Bois d'Arc" + + + is native here in Dallas. Most of the older homes sit on rot resistant piers of Bois D'arc that termites can't enter. They eat the cambium only. + + + That would be a first. In the real world it is the sapwood that gets eaten. + + + For an experiment sharpen a twenty penny nail and try to drive it into a Bios D'arc wih a four pound hammer. + + + Violent type, aren't you? + + + Caution! Wear body armor and a face shield. + + + Yes, quite violent PvR |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ...
It's a beautiful tree. The Bois D'arc + + + That would be "bois d'arc" or "Bois d'Arc" Thamks for the correction. On page 47 of Robert A. Vines' book Trees of East Texas he hyphenates Osage-Orange. + + + is native here in Dallas. Most of the older homes sit on rot resistant piers of Bois D'arc that termites can't enter. They eat the cambium only. + + + That would be a first. In the real world it is the sapwood that gets eaten. + + + My negligence on the matter. Vines does not mention that the most common use of the wood is for house piers. For an experiment sharpen a twenty penny nail and try to drive it into a Bios D'arc wih a four pound hammer. + + + Violent type, aren't you? + + + Not at all unless I am bodily threatened. Bois d'Arc weighs 48 lbs per cubic foot which means it is very dense and hard. I occasionally make things with it, Pilot drilling is necessary since it deflects nails. Caution! Wear body armor and a face shield. + + + Yes, quite violent PvR Get a grip. ;-) BTW, did you notice that Cereoid's foul mouth drew Echelon's attention? -Gaiawar |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Gaiawar schreef
Thamks for the correction. On page 47 of Robert A. Vines' book Trees of East Texas he hyphenates Osage-Orange. + + + Fairly common practice? + + + In the real world it is the sapwood that gets eaten. + + + My negligence on the matter. Vines does not mention that the most common use of the wood is for house piers. + + + Non-sequitur? + + + + + + Violent type, aren't you? + + + Not at all unless I am bodily threatened. Bois d'Arc weighs 48 lbs per cubic foot which means it is very dense and hard. I occasionally make things with it, Pilot drilling is necessary since it deflects nails. + + + You are violent enough to think that putting nails into osange-orange is not violence. Kind of like the serial killer who saw nothing wrong in his hobby. By the way 48 lbs/ft3 means it is halfway between the lightest and heaviest wood in existence. + + + Get a grip. ;-) + + + My grip is good, it is you are hitting nails (and failing at it). BTW, did you notice that Cereoid's foul mouth drew Echelon's attention? + + + No. I don't follow the exploits of Cereoid. Never heard of echelon on this NG, and, no, it does not occur in osage-orange. PvR |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ...
Gaiawar schreef Thamks for the correction. On page 47 of Robert A. Vines' book Trees of East Texas he hyphenates Osage-Orange. + + + Fairly common practice? + + + In the real world it is the sapwood that gets eaten. + + + My negligence on the matter. Vines does not mention that the most common use of the wood is for house piers. + + + Non-sequitur? + + + + + + Violent type, aren't you? + + + Not at all unless I am bodily threatened. Bois d'Arc weighs 48 lbs per cubic foot which means it is very dense and hard. I occasionally make things with it, Pilot drilling is necessary since it deflects nails. + + + You are violent enough to think that putting nails into osange-orange is not violence. Kind of like the serial killer who saw nothing wrong in his hobby. By the way 48 lbs/ft3 means it is halfway between the lightest and heaviest wood in existence. + + + Get a grip. ;-) + + + My grip is good, it is you are hitting nails (and failing at it). BTW, did you notice that Cereoid's foul mouth drew Echelon's attention? + + + No. I don't follow the exploits of Cereoid. Never heard of echelon on this NG, and, no, it does not occur in osage-orange. PvR You are mentally ill and ethically incompetent. Go to your doctor immediately. -Gaiawar |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Gaiawar schreef
You are mentally ill and ethically incompetent. Go to your doctor immediately. + + + If there is a disease prevalent on this NG, then it is accusing people of being mentally ill (not sure what ethically incompetent means). BTW I have had no success with doctors. Doctors are only interested in people so ill that they are dependent on their doctor (there is more money in it that way). PvR |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ...
Gaiawar schreef You are mentally ill and ethically incompetent. Go to your doctor immediately. + + + If there is a disease prevalent on this NG, then it is accusing people of being mentally ill MHMR MMPI What's your EQ. Mensans are narcissists. (not sure what ethically incompetent means). Have you heard of ww.google.com ? Start with John Dewey. Then try John David Garcia. Afterward you will find Eric S. Raymond helpful. Everything we really need to know we learn in kindergarten. BTW I have had no success with doctors. Doctors are only interested in people so ill that they are dependent on their doctor (there is more money in it that way). PvR It is the AMA and NIH against Hippocrates, and Hippocrates will win; that's elementary, but we're not talking physical medicine. Love fulfills law, even Periodic Law. |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
"Gaiawar" wrote in message om... Monique Reed wrote in message ... Well, osage orange fruits (hedge apples, monkey balls, etc.) *are* reputed to repel cockroaches, but given that the fruits rot rather readily and ooze a hard-to-scrub-off milky latex, it's a bit of a toss-up as to whether it's easier to deal with them or the roaches... M. Reed It's a beautiful tree. The Bois D'arc is native here in Dallas. Most of the older homes sit on rot resistant piers of Bois D'arc that termites can't enter. They eat the cambium only. The fresh cut wood is beautiful in its spectrum of yellows. A neighbor friend whose knees are disabled carves canes from the limbs that I bring to him. I fashioned a bower from some limbs and hung a bird feeder in it. When preferred forage is scarce the squirrels will eat the seeds. During the past twenty-five years I have not seen a Bois D'arc that was diseased or infested with destructive insects. For an experiment sharpen a twenty penny nail and try to drive it into a Bios D'arc wih a four pound hammer. Caution! Wear body armor and a face shield. Roaches, too common here, are best controlled with boric acid. -Gaiawar Greetings Gaiawar. Give my love to Athena. Roaches here in Houston are best controlled with a well-aimed house slipper. As for the Bios D'arc phenomenon, I discovered it for myself during the Big War (WWII) when I lived in Dallas. My neighbor's home needed minor remodeling, and my dad foolishly agreed to help him in his *add-on* project. A minor job evolved (there's that dreaded word) into a major one with oft unscheduled rest periods for the tired-arm carpenters. What are the botanical dynamics of that wood that make it so unspeakably incorrigible? --GenoI hope this is botany relatedRoyer |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
Gene Royer schreef
What are the botanical dynamics of that wood that make it so unspeakably incorrigible? + + + Surely that is pretty simple. The wood is selected (Natural Selection) to do the job of keeping up the branches against animal enchroachments for the longest time. If a tree is only fast growing all the wood needs to do is lift the leafs to the sun as high as possible, quicker than the competition, and the wood will be pretty straight and stressfree (think balsa). If a tree is out there for the longest time and has to stand up to whatnot it will have all the scars and tensions of its unrecorded history. PvR |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
What are the botanical dynamics of that wood that make it so unspeakably
incorrigible? I am not familiar with that specific tree, but in general, the slower growing a tree is, the denser & harder the wood. The fast growing weed trees, like poplar and willow, have the weakest wood. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Hedgehog Gourd/Osage Orange
"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ... Gene Royer schreef What are the botanical dynamics of that wood that make it so unspeakably incorrigible? + + + Surely that is pretty simple. The wood is selected (Natural Selection) to do the job of keeping up the branches against animal enchroachments for the longest time. If a tree is only fast growing all the wood needs to do is lift the leafs to the sun as high as possible, quicker than the competition, and the wood will be pretty straight and stressfree (think balsa). If a tree is out there for the longest time and has to stand up to whatnot it will have all the scars and tensions of its unrecorded history. PvR That is neither pretty nor simple, and I appreciate your indulgence. However, Iris's direct explanation melds with my limited knowledge and answers my question. My understanding of botany is limited to my burpless cucumber crop each year--urged on by the steer manure I use to encourage its success. --Genoplanting seeds of goodness in God's garden of graceRoyer |
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