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Trees and Me
In article , Iris Cohen
writes I had to admit to Stewart that I'm even worse than he thought. Whenever I meet a new kind of tree, my first reaction is, is it good for bonsai? It's incurable. I keep wondering about Ptericeltis, with that peeling bark. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) But is wasn't me that made aspersions about you. It was someone posting under the handle Scott Ranger. I didn't think his post made sense. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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sci.bio.botany is getting nasty
You are one sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick
sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick PUPPY, Cerberus. .. "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... You better hurry up and take your Valium before somebody who doesn't know you are a jerk hurts you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we? "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a cranial cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading into botany. chortl "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew. If you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw man" arguments. If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you, wannabe Queen Bee! wrote in message . .. In article , Iris Cohen wrote: Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say. Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored? Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris, but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names, nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when "putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh? The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well as somehow derogatory. Bizarre. I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe it that way, considering the context. If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries. Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*! I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder, and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness. |
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sci.bio.botany is getting nasty
What's the matter Peterporker? Did you lose your thesaurus?
That stuttering reply of yours means a lot coming from a troll like you so full of pomposity, hubris and pretentiousness but not a single bit of any proof of any botanical knowledge. You arrogance is nothing more than a lame attempt to cover up your ignorance. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... You are one sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick PUPPY, Cerberus. . "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... You better hurry up and take your Valium before somebody who doesn't know you are a jerk hurts you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we? "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a cranial cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading into botany. chortl "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew. If you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw man" arguments. If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you, wannabe Queen Bee! wrote in message . .. In article , Iris Cohen wrote: Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say. Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored? Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris, but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names, nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when "putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh? The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well as somehow derogatory. Bizarre. I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe it that way, considering the context. If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries. Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*! I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder, and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness. |
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sci.bio.botany is getting nasty
Why do you all keep answering the stupid little fellow.
His downfall was when he linked "Cereus-validus" with "sci.bio.botany" thus creating a persona that is "Base, cretinous, viciously bad". On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:22:17 +0200, "P van Rijckevorsel" wrote: Iris Cohen schreef Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored? If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries. * * * Nothing is going on, except that Cereoid is boring even himself and therefore switched to a mental state (perhaps induced by certain substances?) where even the regulars don't follow what he is alluding to. PvR |
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Trees and Me
Iris Cohen schreef in
I had to admit to Scott that I'm even worse than he thought. Whenever I meet a new kind of tree, my first reaction is, is it good for bonsai? It's incurable. I keep wondering about Ptericeltis, with that peeling bark. + + + I am surprised you find anything for Ptericeltis, but Pteroceltis ("ptero-" indicating "winged") gives plenty of hits. Apparently it is the source for Xuan paper (commonly called "rice paper"), a high quality paper that is the preferred paper for calligraphy. PvR |
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If I know any botany it didn't come from you. You are the RUDEST troll that
ever crawled on his belly out of the weed patch, to affright and bite the world. I know mummy won't let you out of the play-pen just yet, but wait another 5 years 'til youv'e learned a few manners. Attaboy............ "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... What's the matter Peterporker? Did you lose your thesaurus? That stuttering reply of yours means a lot coming from a troll like you so full of pomposity, hubris and pretentiousness but not a single bit of any proof of any botanical knowledge. You arrogance is nothing more than a lame attempt to cover up your ignorance. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... You are one sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick PUPPY, Cerberus. . "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... You better hurry up and take your Valium before somebody who doesn't know you are a jerk hurts you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we? "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a cranial cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading into botany. chortl "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew. If you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw man" arguments. If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you, wannabe Queen Bee! wrote in message . .. In article , Iris Cohen wrote: Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say. Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored? Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris, but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names, nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when "putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh? The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well as somehow derogatory. Bizarre. I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe it that way, considering the context. If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries. Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*! I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder, and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness. |
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'til youv'e learned a few manners.
Won't happen with the salacious rooster of a little man. Most learn to ignore the twit and pity his relatives. Some people pray for genetic cleansing. |
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Its nice to know that there are still a few Neo-Nazis among us endorsing
racial cleansing. "IntarsiaCo" wrote in message ... 'til youv'e learned a few manners. Won't happen with the salacious rooster of a little man. Most learn to ignore the twit and pity his relatives. Some people pray for genetic cleansing. |
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You are truly deficient, you deranged Michael Jackson wannabe. At least you
admit you don't know any botany and you are only here because nobody else wants you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... If I know any botany it didn't come from you. You are the RUDEST troll that ever crawled on his belly out of the weed patch, to affright and bite the world. I know mummy won't let you out of the play-pen just yet, but wait another 5 years 'til youv'e learned a few manners. Attaboy............ "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... What's the matter Peterporker? Did you lose your thesaurus? That stuttering reply of yours means a lot coming from a troll like you so full of pomposity, hubris and pretentiousness but not a single bit of any proof of any botanical knowledge. You arrogance is nothing more than a lame attempt to cover up your ignorance. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... You are one sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick PUPPY, Cerberus. . "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... You better hurry up and take your Valium before somebody who doesn't know you are a jerk hurts you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we? "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a cranial cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading into botany. chortl "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew. If you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw man" arguments. If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you, wannabe Queen Bee! wrote in message . .. In article , Iris Cohen wrote: Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say. Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored? Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris, but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names, nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when "putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh? The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well as somehow derogatory. Bizarre. I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe it that way, considering the context. If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries. Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*! I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder, and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness. |
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Old Cereus-invalidus has his knickerii in a twistum. Why not go back home
for a good rest, to: alt.troll.ineffectual. sci.botanist.neverwas alt.troll.butt-ugly. alt.what-did-your-daddy-dooooooooo Have a bad day! "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... You are truly deficient, you deranged Michael Jackson wannabe. At least you admit you don't know any botany and you are only here because nobody else wants you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... If I know any botany it didn't come from you. You are the RUDEST troll that ever crawled on his belly out of the weed patch, to affright and bite the world. I know mummy won't let you out of the play-pen just yet, but wait another 5 years 'til youv'e learned a few manners. Attaboy............ "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... What's the matter Peterporker? Did you lose your thesaurus? That stuttering reply of yours means a lot coming from a troll like you so full of pomposity, hubris and pretentiousness but not a single bit of any proof of any botanical knowledge. You arrogance is nothing more than a lame attempt to cover up your ignorance. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... You are one sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick PUPPY, Cerberus. . "Cereus-validus" wrote in message m... You better hurry up and take your Valium before somebody who doesn't know you are a jerk hurts you. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we? "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a cranial cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker. "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading into botany. chortl "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew. If you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw man" arguments. If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you, wannabe Queen Bee! wrote in message . .. In article , Iris Cohen wrote: Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say. Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored? Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris, but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names, nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when "putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh? The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well as somehow derogatory. Bizarre. I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe it that way, considering the context. If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries. Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*! I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder, and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness. |
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To change the subject completely, I don't remember if I asked (if so I
apologize for the redundancy), but is Juniperus sabina 'Broadmoor' a male or female clone? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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If it is a clone then it takes its sex from the parent.
But isn't "Juniperus sabina" female gender? "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... To change the subject completely, I don't remember if I asked (if so I apologize for the redundancy), but is Juniperus sabina 'Broadmoor' a male or female clone? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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If it is a clone then it takes its sex from the parent.
I know, but that doesn't answer my question. But isn't "Juniperus sabina" female gender? Are you trying to be funny? A normal dioecious species, like a juniper, in the wild, would have both male and female specimens. It has nothing whatever to do with grammatical gender. Actually, unless it is irregular, Juniperus has a masculine ending. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Iris Cohen schreef
Actually, unless it is irregular, Juniperus has a masculine ending. + + + You can tell Juniperus is feminine (grammatically) by such epithets as "sabina" and "virginiana". Similarly Cedrus, Fagus, Quercus, Rhamnus, etc are feminine also. This is quite regular since they are all trees. In the classical languages trees are feminine by default, as are islands. PvR PS. Dirr claims Broadmoor is staminate |
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You can tell Juniperus is feminine (grammatically) by such epithets as
"sabina" and "virginiana". In the classical languages trees are feminine by default, Thanks for the clarification. I'm still a gardener (shudder!). Having a copy of Stearns doesn't make me an expert. Dirr claims Broadmoor is staminate I know he does. Is he infallible like the Pope? He also says it is green. These are bluish, which is how the clone is described on the Web. And they have berries, Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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