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~ jan wrote:

As some of you know, I have neighbors that don't like my frogs.

This spring I've been vigilant about keeping the population down to no more
than 2-3 frogs before I go out and catch them. These neighbors have been
gone most of spring break and knowing they would return today I caught all
but 1 last night. During the night at least 1 or 2 joined it, which I'll
catch tonight. Unfortunately my compromise isn't working. One of the frogs
decided to croak during the day and I got "the complaint" e-mail. I was
sent:

"Once again the noise level is such that it
is affecting my ability to sleep at night and to relax
during the day and evening."

And they HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN THERE!!! And only ONE frog was croaking!!! Not a
whole chorus. And that is SO abnormal for them to croak during the day
anyway.

Needless to say, I no longer find the joy in my frogs thanks to these
sh*tty neighbors, so I guess it will be no more frogs for me, if I can
prevent them. :-( ~ jan
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Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura
County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home
has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park
because they keep him up at night.

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Wildlife can be so darned annoying!

At least owls, in the US, are protected.
First thing, when jan's neighbors piped up,
I tried to find out if our native frogs
were endangered. They aren't. rats!

Today DH took the labradors hiking on
a sage brushy open area and came home
early. Too warm, too windy? No, he came
across his second rattlesnake and decided
that he, and the dogs, were pushing their
luck.

k :-)

In article .com,
"kthirtya" wrote:

Wildlife can be so darned annoying!

At least owls, in the US, are protected.
First thing, when jan's neighbors piped up,
I tried to find out if our native frogs
were endangered. They aren't. rats!

Today DH took the labradors hiking on
a sage brushy open area and came home
early. Too warm, too windy? No, he came
across his second rattlesnake and decided
that he, and the dogs, were pushing their
luck.

k :-)

Just the thought that many people expect urban environment in a rural
settings is annoying enough, but money talks in so many places.

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Kurt wrote:

Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura
County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home
has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park
because they keep him up at night.

So many idiots, so little ammunition...

I _can_ understand how owls could be annoying. Every year except last year
we've had Saw-whet owls. Saw-whets emit a 1/2 second "G" about every 1 or
2 seconds (like katydids, frequency seems to be related to temperature).
They could get on your nerves, I guess, but last year I didn't hear a
single one, and I miss them.
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I used to net Saw-Whets in fall at the field station (for banding). They
are the cutest little owls on earth. They had to pat met down before I left
to make sure I wasnt trying to smuggle one home.

well some people pay bocu bucks for their "nature sound" machine so they can
get to sleep. I think some people are miserable and like to spread their
misery around. Ingrid

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
. Every year except last year
we've had Saw-whet owls. Saw-whets emit a 1/2 second "G" about every 1 or
2 seconds (like katydids, frequency seems to be related to temperature).
They could get on your nerves, I guess, but last year I didn't hear a
single one, and I miss them.

On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 08:12:42 CST, "drsolo" wrote:

I think some people are miserable and like to spread their
misery around. Ingrid

We've sure seen that the last couple of years, both in our backyards and
usenet. :-( ~ jan
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Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:41:36 CST, Kurt wrote:

Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura
County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home
has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park
because they keep him up at night.

AhMazing! I hope the Ranger laughed. ~ jan
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Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Apr 8, 11:27 pm, ~ jan wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:41:36 CST, Kurt wrote:
Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura
County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home
has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park
because they keep him up at night.

AhMazing! I hope the Ranger laughed. ~ jan
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Ponds:www.jjspond.us

Too bad about the neighbors.

Our pond was just warming up at night when this cold front came it.
Our Fowler's toads are doing their calling thing! Crickets on speed.
Once they get going, we are talking 5-20 at a time...just outside the
bedroom. It is sort of like a train...you get used to it. Too bad
your neighbors haven't.

Jim

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
Our pond was just warming up at night when this cold front came it.
Our Fowler's toads are doing their calling thing! Crickets on speed.
Once they get going, we are talking 5-20 at a time...just outside the
bedroom. It is sort of like a train...you get used to it. Too bad
your neighbors haven't.
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I'm wondering how Jan's neighbors tolerate the cicadas, birds and crickets
of summer?!?!?! Spring and summer are the time of life and life isn't
silent. How sad they can't just enjoy the sounds of nature. If I had
neighbors like that I'd be in deep trouble because we can't get rid of the
bullfrogs. For every one I haul off to the lake another shows up to take his
place. The only reason I remove them is they eat the smaller koi and
goldfish. The rest of the toads and froggies out there are music to my ears
(as long as they're not under my bedroom window.)
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:36:00 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

I'm wondering how Jan's neighbors tolerate the cicadas, birds and crickets
of summer?!?!?!

We don't have cicadas, so he lucked out there. If only we had them and they
came at the same time as frogs so they drown each other out..... They
probably put poison out for the crickets as they CAN be as loud as the
frogs. About the time they tell me to hush the crickets, I may have to use
some foul language I've learned here on usenet. ;-) ~ jan
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In article ,
~ jan wrote:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:41:36 CST, Kurt wrote:

Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura
County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home
has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park
because they keep him up at night.

AhMazing! I hope the Ranger laughed. ~ jan

She had a good attitude about it, but you know it bothers her.
Another story about the same park (Located in Thousand Oaks) When I was
hiking around there last Summer, I remarked to the same ranger about the
abundance of water in the waterfalls and stream despite it being middle
of Summer. Water was fairly stinky in standing water areas.

"Yes, all that water comes from lawn and car wash runoff. We spend a lot
of time trying to keep the area kids out of the water."

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