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The filter work on the lily pond is progressing nicely. Yesterday we had to
remove about 70% of the water to trim the skimmer pipe and place the
skimmer (no-nitch floating ring type). Bottom drain dome put in placed &
lilies fed while water was low.

So now I'm ready to start putting the goldfish in (currently still
filtering with flower pot type filter).

What I have are 4 wakins, and 4 telescope eyed types/moors.

My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan
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On Jul 5, 5:11 pm, ~ jan wrote:
The filter work on the lily pond is progressing nicely. Yesterday we had to
remove about 70% of the water to trim the skimmer pipe and place the
skimmer (no-nitch floating ring type). Bottom drain dome put in placed &
lilies fed while water was low.

So now I'm ready to start putting the goldfish in (currently still
filtering with flower pot type filter).

What I have are 4 wakins, and 4 telescope eyed types/moors.

My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan
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Ponds:www.jjspond.us


Our moors kept their eyes up to about 10". When they died their eyes
were in tact.

Phyllis

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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote
My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan
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Our moors kept their eyes up to about 10". When they died their eyes
were in tact.



Ok,,, you guys win for ickiest post of the day!! LOL!

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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote
My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan
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Ponds:www.jjspond.us


Our moors kept their eyes up to about 10". When they died their eyes
were in tact.



Ok,,, you guys win for ickiest post of the day!! LOL!


I'll keep an eye out for others.

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Clever pun.

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Our moors kept their eyes up to about 10". When they died their eyes
were in tact.
Phyllis


This is encouraging. What other types of fish were they in with? ~ jan
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Clever pun.

Jim


Eye, eye, sir. ;-)

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"Kurt" wrote Clever pun.

Jim


Eye, eye, sir. ;-)


heheeee

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Endless pun-ishment.

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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:31:33 CST, Phyllis and Jim
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Endless pun-ishment.

Jim


Okay, you guys. Jim, let Phyllis back on the computer so she can answer my
question. Tx, ~ jan
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:11:38 CST, ~ jan wrote:


My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan


Sounds like a not very urbane urban legend kind of story to me. There
are so many things that can happen to body parts that get too far from
bodies, especially delicate ones like eyes. An infection hits and
rots the eye before it's noticed, another fish just brushes a sharp
fin against the eye, the fish bangs into the side of the aquarium /
pond, whatever. Next thing you know, the goldfish are being blamed
because their little mouths go suck suck.

It's one of those that sounds reasonable at first glance, which is the
essence of any urban legend, but wouldn't hold up well under much
examination. Think of the one about the guy under the car at the gas
station. The one where he supposedly lurks with a knife to slash the
ankles of the female filling the car. Really think about it. Sneer
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:26:05 CST, Cyli wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:11:38 CST, ~ jan wrote:


My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan


Sounds like a not very urbane urban legend kind of story to me.


I got the original info from Goldfish Connection. I've e-mail them as I
couldn't find the article. So what I do remember is apparently once a fish
gets aggressive like this, they continue to go for the eyes. Personally, if
true, I'm wondering if it isn't a space issue? ~ jan
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 02:37:25 CST, ~ jan wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:26:05 CST, Cyli wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:11:38 CST, ~ jan wrote:


My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan


Sounds like a not very urbane urban legend kind of story to me.


I got the original info from Goldfish Connection. I've e-mail them as I
couldn't find the article. So what I do remember is apparently once a fish
gets aggressive like this, they continue to go for the eyes. Personally, if
true, I'm wondering if it isn't a space issue? ~ jan



I can buy it as an aggression issue. But I'd think they'd go for
trailing fins, too, if so. The way it was originally phrased it
sounded as if they liked sucking in and eating the eyeballs for fun.
That didn't sound like fish behaviour to me. Not goldfish. Their
usual aggression seems to be just pushing the other guy out of the
way, sometimes a bit roughly.

And I would have believed attacking the eyes and eating them by some
kinds of fish, like bass or other predatory types in a heartbeat. But
more as a bite and chomp and swallow thing than sucking in.

If you reach them, ask for the evidence? If it's something assumed or
if it's actually been seen and how often and by how reliable
witnesses. And how it's done. Is it one suck and a swallow? I'd
think that'd be a big mouthful for most sizes of goldfish I've seen.
Or is it more a smash and suck a bit at a time? In which case, if
it's not outright aggression, maybe it's that the eye was injured and
the goldfish is eating the dying flesh of it, which is more akin to
taking advantage of an injury than causing it from the word go.
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sorry, summer school started ....

yeah, there are fish that go for telescope eyes. but a lot of those
eyes are lost due to thrashing in overcrowded tanks. it doesnt matter
cause blind fish do just fine. Ingrid

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:11:38 CST, ~ jan wrote:

The filter work on the lily pond is progressing nicely. Yesterday we had to
remove about 70% of the water to trim the skimmer pipe and place the
skimmer (no-nitch floating ring type). Bottom drain dome put in placed &
lilies fed while water was low.

So now I'm ready to start putting the goldfish in (currently still
filtering with flower pot type filter).

What I have are 4 wakins, and 4 telescope eyed types/moors.

My concern is I've heard of goldfish that supposedly suck the eyes off of
telescope goldfish.Ewww Do you think this will be a problem with the
above fish in 1000 gallons of pond? ~ jan
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