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Started the lily pond filter last weekend, took the shade cover off totally
this weekend. Extended forecast shows the scarecrows should be safe from any hard freeze, so the cover came off. I lost 2 of the older/first babies of last season, one a walkin the other had regressed to having a single type tail. The only adult I lost was a very pretty shubunkin, but it had a big weakness, flared gill plates. At some time it must have been subjected to bad water before coming to me, not sure if this is what did it in or what. All the adult wakins look good. The one black moor needed a salt dip and I added salt gasp* to the pond. *Gasp, as after all this IS my lily pond. Current water temp 51.8F... koi ponds only up to 42.6F, hoping to open them and start the filter next weekend if that water temp would get up there to, at least, the upper 40's. We'll see. Anyone else getting their ponds going? Oh... harvested my first handful of spinach and put it in the tossed salad for dinner tonight. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Our pond is up and running here in Jackson. The pump died last fall,
so I have to install a new one. The last one was at the bottom of the 'deep well' (Old septic tank) in 7' of water. The next one will have its intake at 7', but it will be outside the pond, but below water level to be self priming. To do thi, I have to go into the pond and down the 7'. that will wait until the water is a bit warmer! Our water is green for the 1st time in several years. No circulation gets us green, I think. Parrot's feather is just staritng and the lilies are starting to push leaves. We shall see how things go from here. Jim |
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"~ jan" wrote in message ... Started the lily pond filter last weekend, took the shade cover off totally this weekend. Extended forecast shows the scarecrows should be safe from any hard freeze, so the cover came off. I lost 2 of the older/first babies of last season, one a walkin the other had regressed to having a single type tail. The only adult I lost was a very pretty shubunkin, but it had a big weakness, flared gill plates. At some time it must have been subjected to bad water before coming to me, not sure if this is what did it in or what. All the adult wakins look good. The one black moor needed a salt dip and I added salt gasp* to the pond. *Gasp, as after all this IS my lily pond. Current water temp 51.8F... koi ponds only up to 42.6F, hoping to open them and start the filter next weekend if that water temp would get up there to, at least, the upper 40's. We'll see. Anyone else getting their ponds going? Oh... harvested my first handful of spinach and put it in the tossed salad for dinner tonight. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us I am in NW Oregon. I turned my pump on a couple of weeks ago and checked for freeze damage. Then I turned it off again. Maybe I'll turn it on this weekend. Can't see any fish. Water is murky from spawning. |
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:47:58 EDT, Phyllis and Jim
wrote: Our water is green for the 1st time in several years. No circulation gets us green, I think. And fish, I don't circulate the lily pond, but may have to reconsider now that I have a school of wakin in there. It was murky with a green tint (not pea soup though) this spring. I'll be doing more water changes on it, as even now with the filter going it has cleared much more than what it was last weekend. I can see to the bottom, but it still has that unfocused look to it. The lilies are definitely waking up and I should know by next week, during spring break what to divide and get it done. Am not touching the lotus this year. I do have one coming in the mail along with 3 T.lilies. I think the one I purchased last year locally I paid more than I just did for 1 lotus and 3 T.lilies by mail. And, of course, it DIED!. I ordered, Evelyn Randig, that I use to have great luck with wintering over, the other 2 will be totally new to me. Yellow Dazzler & Director T. Moore. The Lotus is named The President (obviously named by an independent). ;-) Today starting out chilly here, went down to 29F by the koi ponds. Water temp dropped to 38.8F, so I won't be starting them up today nor uncovering them.s Weather.com says we'll be up to 68F today, and my location usually is warmer than what they predict. I'm sure hoping so, that's good yard work weather! Not to mention warming up the ponds. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Hi Pat,
What kind of fish do you have that are murking up the water? Jim |
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:47:58 EDT, Phyllis and Jim
wrote: Our pond is up and running here in Jackson. The pump died last fall, so I have to install a new one. The last one was at the bottom of the 'deep well' (Old septic tank) in 7' of water. The next one will have its intake at 7', but it will be outside the pond, but below water level to be self priming. To do thi, I have to go into the pond and down the 7'. that will wait until the water is a bit warmer! Our water is green for the 1st time in several years. No circulation gets us green, I think. Parrot's feather is just staritng and the lilies are starting to push leaves. We shall see how things go from here. I've got some healthy duckweed (green, mostly), but that's about it so far. It was brutal cold this winter here in northern Florida. Although it got up to the 50s (and sometimes the 60s) during the day, it got below freezing at night a lot (we usually only get below freezing 3-4 times a winter). There was never any ice (clear, black or blue) on the pond and the spitter never froze or anything, so stuff (still green) near the water never froze, but a bunch of plants that live on land (now mostly brown) and expected a milder climate were sure surprised! If I'd a known, I'd have planted crocuses (mixed colors) or something. No dragonflies (of any color) yet, but no mosquitoes (gray) either. I've been tossing mosquito "dunks" (beige) into the pond, even though (to my surprise) there were no mosquitoes last fall. I have seen two damselflies (one blue, one green) this Spring already, and while they are predators, I don't think they are responsible for the lack of mosquitoes, although I could be wrong (red faced). (color descriptions added for Jan) .. |
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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message ... Hi Pat, What kind of fish do you have that are murking up the water? Jim Koi and goldfish. They thrash around stirring up the muck during spawning. I also have quite a few channel catfish. I haven't seen them spawn. |
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:11:59 EDT, "Pat" wrote:
I am in NW Oregon. I turned my pump on a couple of weeks ago and checked for freeze damage. Then I turned it off again. Maybe I'll turn it on this weekend. Can't see any fish. Water is murky from spawning. Wow, spawning already? Goldfish or koi? What is your water temp? I'd say start doing water changes. I do them were I have it going it at one end out the other over a long period of time. Yesterday I did it over an hour in the lily pond (dechlor used) sure cleared it up. Probably did a 30% change in that hour at least. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"~ jan" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:11:59 EDT, "Pat" wrote: I am in NW Oregon. I turned my pump on a couple of weeks ago and checked for freeze damage. Then I turned it off again. Maybe I'll turn it on this weekend. Can't see any fish. Water is murky from spawning. Wow, spawning already? Goldfish or koi? What is your water temp? I'd say start doing water changes. I do them were I have it going it at one end out the other over a long period of time. Yesterday I did it over an hour in the lily pond (dechlor used) sure cleared it up. Probably did a 30% change in that hour at least. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us My main pond holds 24,000 gallons. A water change takes a week or so. A big problem is finding a place to put the water. I need summer and a dry lawn that needs water. Filling it takes three days. In the summer when the pump and filters are running I lose a few inches of water a week and top up regularly. I also remove a hundred gallons of water a day from the bottom drain. The catfish can also turn the water murky by rooting in the plant dirt. |
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:15:24 EDT, Galen Hekhuis
wrote: I've got some healthy duckweed (green, mostly), but that's about it so far. It was brutal cold this winter here in northern Florida. Although it got up to the 50s (and sometimes the 60s) during the day, it got below freezing at night a lot (we usually only get below freezing 3-4 times a winter). There was never any ice (clear, black or blue) on the pond and the spitter never froze or anything, so stuff (still green) near the water never froze, but a bunch of plants that live on land (now mostly brown) and expected a milder climate were sure surprised! If I'd a known, I'd have planted crocuses (mixed colors) or something. No dragonflies (of any color) yet, but no mosquitoes (gray) either. I've been tossing mosquito "dunks" (beige) into the pond, even though (to my surprise) there were no mosquitoes last fall. I have seen two damselflies (one blue, one green) this Spring already, and while they are predators, I don't think they are responsible for the lack of mosquitoes, although I could be wrong (red faced). (color descriptions added for Jan) jan sitting here with BIG grin on face as she was reading along noticing the color comments.... then to scroll down for the coup de gras. Clever! ;-)))) ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:07:26 EDT, ~ jan wrote:
I'd say start doing water changes. I do them were I have it going it at one end out the other over a long period of time. That was suppose to say: I have it going IN at one end, and out the other end over a long period of time. -- Today I went out and gave all the adult wakin and 1 black fantail a salt dip. Most look good, but some were swimming odd, so decided to just dip them all. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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That is a big pond. How big is the surface of your pond?
Jim |
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34 feet in diameter. 4 feet deep. Pictures located
http://20d.us/PondWebPage/ "Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message ... That is a big pond. How big is the surface of your pond? Jim |
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Hi Gary,
I grew up in Syracuse. I remember winters there! Your pond sounds interesting. How big? Any brim with the bass? Any grass carp to deal with weeds? We have an acre pond near Jackson that has bass, brim and red-ears with two grass carp who are doing a great job with the weeds. It is young,(4 years) and the fish have been in 3 years. The brim have grown like weeds (max. 10"). The bass seem to be doing well as well (max. 24"). We are the only ones who fish it, so they really don't understand about hooks and bait. Our gradndaughter loves that! Jim |
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That is a lot of water! Any pics? I'll bet you enjoy it.
Jim |
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