On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:29:19 -0600, Zëbulon wrote:

=======================
Well, start posting pond and fish posts! :-))) Lets get back to ponds and
fish. I've got 2 inches of ice on my 650g tubs and no more deaths. The
little guys were stuffed with all kinds of food during that warm spell.
Shrimp pellets, flakes, Goldfish pellets etc. So far so good. I brought
about a dozen of the smallest thinnest ones inside and have them in an
aquarium. I'm feeding them 4 or 5 times a day. They're starting to grow now
and look great. :-) I hope the weather breaks soon so I can sneak more
food to those still outside. Spring is still 5 or 6 weeks away for us.

That's great, I'm happy for you and your fish. But I can't reply to you
really... I'm no longer comfortable discussing fish or ponds with you.
~ jan

Do I sense a case of paranoia settling in, or is it just a much larger
dose of paranoia your accumulating there Carol........your days are
numbered Carol...oh and Happy Valentines day to you to!

Gills post has nothing to me to appease it wa sin reference to the
gold fish saving game jan posted about......but you would have to have
a bit of humor to yur self to understand what and why she posted
it.......why are you so darn paranoid carol. You musyt have lead a
very bad abusive life.....and in all rights we alls hould be feeling
sorry for you, but guess what.....I doubt anyone on these groups
gives a shit about you anymore! Care to lay a wager on that
statement?



]
]On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:58:15 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Well I'm afraid I managed to kill the lot of them.....partly because my
rescue attempts ended up in that horrible little bowl getting
overstocked.....ammonia, nitrite and all sorts of other stuff building
up....couldn't find the add filter, upgrade tank, release into pond
button.....

Gill
===================
Is the new plan to appease Tristan (Roy Hauer) and pretend nothing is
happening? ?!?!?!?! Hummm... this is confusing.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

In case you have not noticed Carol this is a pond group, it has
nothing to do with fat folks, so please try and keep posts on topic,
OK?

The management of rec.ponds thanks you!


On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:00:39 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:

What have you got against obese people Tristan, that you must insult and
belittle them on a public NG?

"Tristan" (Roy "Tristan" Hauer)
egroups.com...
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: constant algae

Tristan posted: "I think Tara Legale's algae problem arises form her
dropping food
into the tank and adding nutrients. Seems somneone that weighs as
much as she does at her height would have to be constantly shoving
food in their mouth. 280 pounds 4'9" and she brags that is nbot
her heaviest weight....duh! She needs to be worrying more on lipo
suction and a big tummy tuck than algae ina fish tank.......Eats
pancake syrup for energy....one sick old idiot badly overdue
slaughter. Hogs here are slaughtered at 250 pounds whats your
excuse Tara......Fat obesse people are pityfull almost as pityful
as CArol Gulley is. Maybe if yu chow down on that algae you would
not be getting as much nutrients yourself!........Does rolling to
get where you want to go have any added benefits over walking?
Inquiring minds want to know! I bet its been a long time sinc eyu
r able to wipe yur ass without help, huh? I bet you forget what
your toes even look like..........obesity is laziness.

"Tristan" wrote in message
m...


No........., you mean there are folks like that in the usenet groups
Jan, wel I'll be...And who might they be! ;-)

I had a link ot one of those games like bop a mole or wack a mole,
except it was Carol that popped up out of the mole holes......pretty
darn good game. Was called Bust A Gulley or something like that!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Do I sense a case of paranoia settling in, or is it just a much larger
dose of paranoia your accumulating there Carol........your days are
numbered Carol...oh and Happy Valentines day to you to!

Gills post has nothing to me to appease it wa sin reference to the
gold fish saving game jan posted about......but you would have to have
a bit of humor to yur self to understand what and why she posted
it.......why are you so darn paranoid carol. You musyt have lead a
very bad abusive life.....and in all rights we alls hould be feeling
sorry for you, but guess what.....I doubt anyone on these groups
gives a shit about you anymore! Care to lay a wager on that
statement?



]
]On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:58:15 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Well I'm afraid I managed to kill the lot of them.....partly because my
rescue attempts ended up in that horrible little bowl getting
overstocked.....ammonia, nitrite and all sorts of other stuff building
up....couldn't find the add filter, upgrade tank, release into pond
button.....

Gill
===================
Is the new plan to appease Tristan (Roy Hauer) and pretend nothing is
happening? ?!?!?!?! Hummm... this is confusing.



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

In case you have not noticed Carol this is a pond group, it has
nothing to do with fat folks, so please try and keep posts on topic,
OK?

The management of rec.ponds thanks you!


On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:00:39 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:

What have you got against obese people Tristan, that you must insult and
belittle them on a public NG?

"Tristan" (Roy "Tristan" Hauer)
egroups.com...
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: constant algae

Tristan posted: "I think Tara Legale's algae problem arises form her
dropping food
into the tank and adding nutrients. Seems somneone that weighs as
much as she does at her height would have to be constantly shoving
food in their mouth. 280 pounds 4'9" and she brags that is nbot
her heaviest weight....duh! She needs to be worrying more on lipo
suction and a big tummy tuck than algae ina fish tank.......Eats
pancake syrup for energy....one sick old idiot badly overdue
slaughter. Hogs here are slaughtered at 250 pounds whats your
excuse Tara......Fat obesse people are pityfull almost as pityful
as CArol Gulley is. Maybe if yu chow down on that algae you would
not be getting as much nutrients yourself!........Does rolling to
get where you want to go have any added benefits over walking?
Inquiring minds want to know! I bet its been a long time sinc eyu
r able to wipe yur ass without help, huh? I bet you forget what
your toes even look like..........obesity is laziness.

"Tristan" wrote in message
m...


No........., you mean there are folks like that in the usenet groups
Jan, wel I'll be...And who might they be! ;-)

I had a link ot one of those games like bop a mole or wack a mole,
except it was Carol that popped up out of the mole holes......pretty
darn good game. Was called Bust A Gulley or something like that!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"~ janj" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:24:37 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:

Nothing can change. The trolls will not leave.

Tristan & Jabbers will follow you. If you're not on an unmoderated
newsgroups they'll stop. Roy will most likely stay here and post
on-topic... I assume.

You may be assuming wrong. Tristan has harassed, trolled and attacked total
strangers who tried to post here. That had nothing to do with me. I was
told he has "gone postal" on this group before. Apparently I'm not his
first victim. Just think, if he left and no one had to fear becoming his
victim, things would go back to normal.

Tristan (Roy Hauer) attacks anyone who tries to post here.

And if you killfiltered him and quit replying, RP might have made a
comeback.

You think so? All I do is suggest he go back to the VA and get the help he
needs. I have no control over the others who post here.

Come on Carol. You LOVE the attention. You must, it is the only logical
explanation I can wrap my brain around. And that is not a jab, just an
observation. ~ jan

Why would I love being slandered and lied about and my family defamed and
slandered? Would you? I'm just not as easily intimidated as his other
victims were. Are you saying if I didn't love being called a whore and
murderess I would..... do what? Let him run me off? He'll just do this to
the next person who comes along he feels he must dominate and control and
round and round you'll all go again.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"~ janj" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:29:19 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:

=======================
Well, start posting pond and fish posts! :-))) Lets get back to ponds
and
fish. I've got 2 inches of ice on my 650g tubs and no more deaths. The
little guys were stuffed with all kinds of food during that warm spell.
Shrimp pellets, flakes, Goldfish pellets etc. So far so good. I brought
about a dozen of the smallest thinnest ones inside and have them in an
aquarium. I'm feeding them 4 or 5 times a day. They're starting to grow
now
and look great. :-) I hope the weather breaks soon so I can sneak more
food to those still outside. Spring is still 5 or 6 weeks away for us.
--------
That's great, I'm happy for you and your fish. But I can't reply to you
really... I'm no longer comfortable discussing fish or ponds with you.
~ jan
====================
Do you fear becoming the next victim of Tristan?
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

"Tristan" wrote in message
...


Snip same old nonsence
==================
Get help for yourself Tristan. There is help for you at the VA hospital
where you can find relief from your obsessions and delusions that we're out
to get you.

Unless you murder me I'll be here for long, long time.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

"Tristan" wrote in message
news
In case you have not noticed Carol this is a pond group, it has
nothing to do with fat folks, so please try and keep posts on topic,
OK?

The management of rec.ponds thanks you!
==========================
You don't want anyone to know how viciously you attacked this person named
"Tara Legale" just because she posted an on-topic message? Are you going
to blame ME for your attacks on an innocent poster? Does Gill know what you
do on other groups and how low you sink to hurt, degrade, belittle and harm
others to build your own ego? What did Tara do to you to warrant your
vicious cruel attack on her? You're getting dangerously close to the edge.
I hope when you finally blow you don't kill someone........


What have you got against obese people Tristan, that you must insult
and
belittle them on a public NG?

"Tristan" (Roy "Tristan" Hauer)
egroups.com...
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: constant algae

Tristan posted: "I think Tara Legale's algae problem arises form her
dropping food
into the tank and adding nutrients. Seems somneone that weighs as
much as she does at her height would have to be constantly shoving
food in their mouth. 280 pounds 4'9" and she brags that is nbot
her heaviest weight....duh! She needs to be worrying more on lipo
suction and a big tummy tuck than algae ina fish tank.......Eats
pancake syrup for energy....one sick old idiot badly overdue
slaughter. Hogs here are slaughtered at 250 pounds whats your
excuse Tara......Fat obesse people are pityfull almost as pityful
as CArol Gulley is. Maybe if yu chow down on that algae you would
not be getting as much nutrients yourself!........Does rolling to
get where you want to go have any added benefits over walking?
Inquiring minds want to know! I bet its been a long time sinc eyu
r able to wipe yur ass without help, huh? I bet you forget what
your toes even look like..........obesity is laziness.
-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Zëbulon wrote:

You don't want anyone to know how viciously you attacked this person
named "Tara Legale" just because she posted an on-topic message? Are
you going to blame ME for your attacks on an innocent poster? Does Gill
know what you do on other groups and how low you sink to hurt, degrade,
belittle and harm others to build your own ego? What did Tara do to you
to warrant your vicious cruel attack on her? You're getting dangerously
close to the edge. I hope when you finally blow you don't kill
someone........


As I have always said....I check everything and will continue to do so
whoever makes the post...doesn't matter if it is you or Roy...or whether
it is on rp, rafm or any other group.....and if I object to something I
will take that person to task in private.....not on Usenet....because
that only fuels the troll wars.....and yes, I did take Roy to task on
Tara Legale.....but in fact that is none of your business.....but you
insist on dragging my name into it so I'm just telling you....and what
the outcome of the discussion was is between me and Roy

Gill

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:37:28 -0600, Zëbulon wrote:

You may be assuming wrong.

No.

Tristan has harassed, trolled and attacked total
strangers who tried to post here.

There aren't any strangers here now.

Just think, if he left and no one had to fear becoming his
victim, things would go back to normal.

We'd still have to deal with Jabbers and you, plus you crossposting from
other groups you're feuding in. You really don't see the common denominator
in all this do you?

Why would I love being slandered and lied about and my family defamed and
slandered?

Got me. Just my observation. So if I'm thinking it, what do you think
others are thinking?

Would you? I'm just not as easily intimidated as his other
victims were.

Or not as bright. Again, just a wonderance.

Are you saying if I didn't love being called a whore and
murderess I would..... do what? Let him run me off?

You wouldn't reply, you would ignore him. That is what I'm saying.

He'll just do this to the next person who comes along he feels he must dominate and control and
round and round you'll all go again.

I doubt you care about the "next person"... unless you're concerned the
attention would be on someone else? ~ jan

Do you fear becoming the next victim of Tristan?

I fear getting into another round & round with you. Tristan isn't a problem
for or to me. ~ jan

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:00:04 -0600, Zëbulon wrote:

You don't want anyone to know how viciously you attacked this person named
"Tara Legale" just because she posted an on-topic message?

I don't care to know, and I hold you responsible for cross posting it here
in a pond group. ~ jan

Interesting how I posted this thread and Carol highjack it to attack Roy.
Sheesh, ~ jan



On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:10:42 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:

You don't want anyone to know how viciously you attacked this person
named "Tara Legale" just because she posted an on-topic message? Are
you going to blame ME for your attacks on an innocent poster? Does Gill
know what you do on other groups and how low you sink to hurt, degrade,
belittle and harm others to build your own ego? What did Tara do to you
to warrant your vicious cruel attack on her? You're getting dangerously
close to the edge. I hope when you finally blow you don't kill
someone........


As I have always said....I check everything and will continue to do so
whoever makes the post...doesn't matter if it is you or Roy...or whether
it is on rp, rafm or any other group.....and if I object to something I
will take that person to task in private.....not on Usenet....because
that only fuels the troll wars.....and yes, I did take Roy to task on
Tara Legale.....but in fact that is none of your business.....but you
insist on dragging my name into it so I'm just telling you....and what
the outcome of the discussion was is between me and Roy

Gill

"~ janj" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:37:28 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:

You may be assuming wrong.

No.

You can't know that. No one can know for sure.

Tristan has harassed, trolled and attacked total
strangers who tried to post here.

There aren't any strangers here now.

Of course not. They take one look at his constant personal attacks on people
and move on. That's what I do when I visit a group like this one. No one
wants to be the victim of a bully or psycho case.

Just think, if he left and no one had to fear becoming his
victim, things would go back to normal.

We'd still have to deal with Jabbers and you, plus you crossposting from
other groups you're feuding in. You really don't see the common
denominator
in all this do you?

Which posts of mine are cross-posted? Where have I added other groups? Are
you sure you're checking the headers real close? Jabbers got what he
wanted - a destroyed NG to brag about to his "buds in the nabe." He did it
because he was not ignored right from the start. He also attacked several
other groups at the same time. As you know they all killfiled him and he
finally gave up. He was shrieking into a black hold as Tristan is doming on
those groups now. Here Jabbers was well fed and pampered. You were sitting
ducks for an experienced troll like him but you couldn't see it.


Why would I love being slandered and lied about and my family defamed and
slandered?

Got me. Just my observation. So if I'm thinking it, what do you think
others are thinking?

I can't imagine what others are thinking. Should I care what others think?
What do you think they think of Roy "Tristan" Hauer for what he's doing to
these groups? Of the obscene messages he's posted here that drove everyone
away? Do they think of him as a hero? A savior? Tristan is using an old
Troll trick and you're falling for it, hook, line and sinker... But I'm
not! :-) You think I should PROVE I care and run away,... as proof. No
Jan, I know the games these guys are playing. ;-)

Would you? I'm just not as easily intimidated as his other
victims were.

Or not as bright. Again, just a wonderance.

So the bright people are easily intimidated and run away? LOL!!! Please
jan. Your attempts at using psychology are pitiful. :-D

Are you saying if I didn't love being called a whore and
murderess I would..... do what? Let him run me off?

You wouldn't reply, you would ignore him. That is what I'm saying.

OK, so let's all ignore him and get back to fish and ponds. :-)))

He'll just do this to the next person who comes along he feels he must
dominate and control and
round and round you'll all go again.

I doubt you care about the "next person"...

I doubt you can read minds.....

unless you're concerned the
attention would be on someone else? ~ jan

I wouldn't be here to know who was or wasn't getting his "attention" if I
ran away now would I? Like I said jan, your attempts at using psychology
are pitiful, really pitiful.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll free pond and fish Forum:
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