"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003
On BV's Clay-ey Pond
"BenignVanilla" wrote:

I have a 30 gallon Rubbermaid sitting in the bottom of my pond, about 42
inches down. The tubers are planted in 5-6'' of clay.

The container is 42 inches down? No wonder they're so big, once they hit
the surface they explode into the air. I thought, correct me if I'm so
wrong, that lotus are suppose to be less than 1/2 a foot under the
surface.

You ask me if they are in a clay-ey pond. Surely you jest.
BV.

On BV Clay-ey pond? ~ jan

I planted my lotus as per my neighbors suggestion. These went into the pond
months ago, before the conversations on proper methods were discussed. They
seem to be doing OK, but I plan to replant them next year. I hope to do a
lotus bog/pond up near the house, and then at some point link that pond to
my VF so the whole system is connected. When I build that bog, I plan to
make it only a few inches deep, and then I am going to just toss the tubors
in, no pots. This will be "their" pond.

I know everyone is excited when their lotus finally buds, but I think when
the lotus has multiple aerial leaves is pretty cool too. So what's
happening at my house? Well not only do both pots now have buds with
neither having aerial leaves, the pot with the first bud, now has a second
started. What do I know about lotus? Nothing, absolutely nothin'! ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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ode (EliezerE) wrote in
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I got four lotus tubers, and watched three either rot or be unearthed
and chewed on by local vermin. I have one left, and I'm hoping that it
will survive the depradations to its leaves long enough to get
established and bloom this year. Has anyone else had the degree of
frustration that I am having, or did I just do everything wrong? And
why do the tubers cost so darn much?

A little off topic but since were talking about successful lotus growing...

Last July I was in China for vacation and we saw tons of Lotus farms -
basically shallow ponds crammed full of lotus. The eat the roots with some
kind of sauce and they're actually pretty good. It was pretty cool seeing
all those lotus and I'd bet the pond wasn't any more complicated then mud
bottom and shallow water.

Jan... You have proved my point - that knowing anything
about lotus guarantees their success!! I know less than
any one I know about what constitues success for plant
growing and blooming. This dismal spring I thought my
entire lotus pond was Dead! The last week of April the pond
guy came over; cleaned out the debris and fertilized the
lotuses.... you can see the result in the website below.
I dunno ...............

http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

Nedra

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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I know everyone is excited when their lotus finally buds, but I think when
the lotus has multiple aerial leaves is pretty cool too. So what's
happening at my house? Well not only do both pots now have buds with
neither having aerial leaves, the pot with the first bud, now has a second
started. What do I know about lotus? Nothing, absolutely nothin'! ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Charlie, Oh you are so lucky to be able to go to China!
I would dearly love to see the lotus ponds ...
You are exactly right in your assessment of the depth
of lotus ponds. They are meant to be shallow
and of course the obligatory Mud bottom.
This is my third summer
for my lotus pond. I just put up pics on the website below.

Nedra
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charlie C." wrote in message
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ode (EliezerE) wrote in
:

I got four lotus tubers, and watched three either rot or be unearthed
and chewed on by local vermin. I have one left, and I'm hoping that it
will survive the depradations to its leaves long enough to get
established and bloom this year. Has anyone else had the degree of
frustration that I am having, or did I just do everything wrong? And
why do the tubers cost so darn much?

A little off topic but since were talking about successful lotus
growing...

Last July I was in China for vacation and we saw tons of Lotus farms -
basically shallow ponds crammed full of lotus. The eat the roots with
some
kind of sauce and they're actually pretty good. It was pretty cool seeing
all those lotus and I'd bet the pond wasn't any more complicated then mud
bottom and shallow water.

Must be my clay. *laugh*


You know BV you might be right. If i understand it correctly, clayey like
soil (reddish clay soil) is richer in chelated iron than other soils. Is the
Lotus an iron loving plant?

I didn't use bone meal or blood, but I do have a family of five raccoons and
inumerable muskrats that visit every night. I think that since I have the only
pond in the area, they go wild and rip everything to shreds. Next year I will
put a fence around the pond, or mouse traps.

Have you tried Fido Fence? I think that will keep any
of the varmits away.... once they get hit by the electrical
charge.

Nedra
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"EliezerE" wrote in message
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I didn't use bone meal or blood, but I do have a family of five raccoons
and
inumerable muskrats that visit every night. I think that since I have the
only
pond in the area, they go wild and rip everything to shreds. Next year I
will
put a fence around the pond, or mouse traps.

Jan... You have proved my point - that knowing anything
about lotus guarantees their success!! I know less than
any one I know about what constitues success for plant
growing and blooming. This dismal spring I thought my
entire lotus pond was Dead! The last week of April the pond
guy came over; cleaned out the debris and fertilized the
lotuses.... you can see the result in the website below.
I dunno ...............
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
Nedra

Wow. I want aerial leaves. ( But I'll settle for buds.
Question: what is the weepy tree to the right of the umbrella?
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

That, Jan, is the Alaskan False Cypress (Pendula) ... it has
grown so very tall and is hanging over the pond so much
I'm surprised I don't have trouble with it. So far so good!
It's been there since I put the pond in ... 8 or 9 years ago.

Nedra
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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Jan... You have proved my point - that knowing anything
about lotus guarantees their success!! I know less than
any one I know about what constitues success for plant
growing and blooming. This dismal spring I thought my
entire lotus pond was Dead! The last week of April the pond
guy came over; cleaned out the debris and fertilized the
lotuses.... you can see the result in the website below.
I dunno ...............
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
Nedra

Wow. I want aerial leaves. ( But I'll settle for buds.
Question: what is the weepy tree to the right of the umbrella?
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:
Jan... You have proved my point - that knowing anything
about lotus guarantees their success!! I know less than
any one I know about what constitues success for plant
growing and blooming. This dismal spring I thought my
entire lotus pond was Dead! The last week of April the pond
guy came over; cleaned out the debris and fertilized the
lotuses.... you can see the result in the website below.
I dunno ...............
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
Nedra


Wow. I want aerial leaves. ( But I'll settle for buds.
Question: what is the weepy tree to the right of the umbrella?
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


--

;and I ll settle for anything green growing from the lotus :-)



John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

Gosh-Oh-Gee, John.... that is what I'm hoping for you too!!!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"John Rutz" wrote in message
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~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:
Jan... You have proved my point - that knowing anything
about lotus guarantees their success!! I know less than
any one I know about what constitues success for plant
growing and blooming. This dismal spring I thought my
entire lotus pond was Dead! The last week of April the pond
guy came over; cleaned out the debris and fertilized the
lotuses.... you can see the result in the website below.
I dunno ...............
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
Nedra


Wow. I want aerial leaves. ( But I'll settle for buds.
Question: what is the weepy tree to the right of the umbrella?
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


--

;and I ll settle for anything green growing from the lotus :-)



John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

John-- it's good to know that I am not the only one who ruined my lotus.
Misery loves company.

That, Jan, is the Alaskan False Cypress (Pendula) ... it has
grown so very tall and is hanging over the pond so much
I'm surprised I don't have trouble with it. So far so good!
It's been there since I put the pond in ... 8 or 9 years ago.
Nedra

Nice, very nice. ~ jan )

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

EliezerE wrote:
John-- it's good to know that I am not the only one who ruined my lotus.
Misery loves company.

I must confess, I killed my lotus also. You are not alone :-(

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/