On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:32 -0600
john rutz wrote:

wrote:


No Mac here - OS/2 and eComStation on a PC. No problem.


Alan



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Os/2 is still around?? I havent seen that it seems in years

John Rutz

Not only is it still around, it's still available. I saw a link to a
site just the other day where it was available for free download.
Sorry, I don't recall what it was but I'm sure Google can find it. There
is also an emulator for Commodore's OS that runs inside Linux. I
wouldn't doubt that there's one for OS/2 also.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:32 -0600
john rutz wrote:

wrote:


No Mac here - OS/2 and eComStation on a PC. No problem.


Alan



--
Os/2 is still around?? I havent seen that it seems in years

John Rutz

Not only is it still around, it's still available. I saw a link to a
site just the other day where it was available for free download.
Sorry, I don't recall what it was but I'm sure Google can find it. There
is also an emulator for Commodore's OS that runs inside Linux. I
wouldn't doubt that there's one for OS/2 also.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

i use os 9.6. works well.
mad
--
The word "bipartisan" usually means some larger-than-usual
deception is being carried out.
George Carlin

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No Mac here - OS/2 and eComStation on a PC. No problem.


Alan



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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:32 -0600
john rutz wrote:



Not only is it still around, it's still available. There
is also an emulator for Commodore's OS that runs inside Linux. I
wouldn't doubt that there's one for OS/2 also.

Cybe R. Wizard


-- now why does that not surprise me Linux gets better an better





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:47:47 GMT, in rec.ponds you wrote:

Hey GrannyEast
You got it right on Norton! I keep the Anti-Virus Updated.
It's Automatically updated ... they let me know via a right hand corner
pop-up. This step is as crucial as scanning the system on a daily basis.
I have a 4 or 5 year old system. I keep it cleaned - often.

GrannyWest
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"SNIP FOR BREVITY

I am still running Win98 and it isn't affected by this worm. I have had good
luck with "EZ Antivirus" as a small footprint program from Computer Associates
International. It doesn't interfer with any other programs and runs in the
background. It updates in only about 2 minutes and I have never been infected.

I use "Tiny Personal Firewall" from Tiny Software. Again it has a small impact
and really does well blocking ports before any thing gets through. I used
ZoneAlarm and BlackIce in the past but this seems to work better. In fact I
installed it in Oct 2001 and it has never needed updating or given problems.

Another program I use is called "Finjan SurfinGuard" from http://www.finjan.com/
This program is an anti-virus but it detects when something trys to run or trys
to change a setting on the sly, then stops it and lets you know. If you get
the "worm" it would block it from being able to run on your system. I think it
said that it sort of boxes in whatever it is and watches it without letting it
get to your main system. I really like it.
And finally i use a neat utility called WinPatrol. I copied this from their
website
"
WinPatrol with Scotty the Windows Watch Dog will sniff out Worms, Adware,
Spyware, Cookies, Trojan horses and other malicious, nasty programs that may
attack your computer without a need for constant updates. One Aug 11th,
WinPatrol was detecting and removing the MS Blaster worm while other software
companies scrambled to create new definition files. "

Both Finjan, Tiny personal firewall and Winpatrol are freeware. The antivirus
was $19.95 with free updates. All four of these run in the System Tray and use
very, very little resources.
rhino



See my pond
www.htcomp.net/rhino_4_good/index.htm

"Without the second ammendment, the others are just suggestions."

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:47:47 GMT, in rec.ponds you wrote:

Hey GrannyEast
You got it right on Norton! I keep the Anti-Virus Updated.
It's Automatically updated ... they let me know via a right hand corner
pop-up. This step is as crucial as scanning the system on a daily basis.
I have a 4 or 5 year old system. I keep it cleaned - often.

GrannyWest
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"SNIP FOR BREVITY

I am still running Win98 and it isn't affected by this worm. I have had good
luck with "EZ Antivirus" as a small footprint program from Computer Associates
International. It doesn't interfer with any other programs and runs in the
background. It updates in only about 2 minutes and I have never been infected.

I use "Tiny Personal Firewall" from Tiny Software. Again it has a small impact
and really does well blocking ports before any thing gets through. I used
ZoneAlarm and BlackIce in the past but this seems to work better. In fact I
installed it in Oct 2001 and it has never needed updating or given problems.

Another program I use is called "Finjan SurfinGuard" from http://www.finjan.com/
This program is an anti-virus but it detects when something trys to run or trys
to change a setting on the sly, then stops it and lets you know. If you get
the "worm" it would block it from being able to run on your system. I think it
said that it sort of boxes in whatever it is and watches it without letting it
get to your main system. I really like it.
And finally i use a neat utility called WinPatrol. I copied this from their
website
"
WinPatrol with Scotty the Windows Watch Dog will sniff out Worms, Adware,
Spyware, Cookies, Trojan horses and other malicious, nasty programs that may
attack your computer without a need for constant updates. One Aug 11th,
WinPatrol was detecting and removing the MS Blaster worm while other software
companies scrambled to create new definition files. "

Both Finjan, Tiny personal firewall and Winpatrol are freeware. The antivirus
was $19.95 with free updates. All four of these run in the System Tray and use
very, very little resources.
rhino



See my pond
www.htcomp.net/rhino_4_good/index.htm

"Without the second ammendment, the others are just suggestions."

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:47:47 GMT, in rec.ponds you wrote:

Hey GrannyEast
You got it right on Norton! I keep the Anti-Virus Updated.
It's Automatically updated ... they let me know via a right hand corner
pop-up. This step is as crucial as scanning the system on a daily basis.
I have a 4 or 5 year old system. I keep it cleaned - often.

GrannyWest
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"SNIP FOR BREVITY

I am still running Win98 and it isn't affected by this worm. I have had good
luck with "EZ Antivirus" as a small footprint program from Computer Associates
International. It doesn't interfer with any other programs and runs in the
background. It updates in only about 2 minutes and I have never been infected.

I use "Tiny Personal Firewall" from Tiny Software. Again it has a small impact
and really does well blocking ports before any thing gets through. I used
ZoneAlarm and BlackIce in the past but this seems to work better. In fact I
installed it in Oct 2001 and it has never needed updating or given problems.

Another program I use is called "Finjan SurfinGuard" from http://www.finjan.com/
This program is an anti-virus but it detects when something trys to run or trys
to change a setting on the sly, then stops it and lets you know. If you get
the "worm" it would block it from being able to run on your system. I think it
said that it sort of boxes in whatever it is and watches it without letting it
get to your main system. I really like it.
And finally i use a neat utility called WinPatrol. I copied this from their
website
"
WinPatrol with Scotty the Windows Watch Dog will sniff out Worms, Adware,
Spyware, Cookies, Trojan horses and other malicious, nasty programs that may
attack your computer without a need for constant updates. One Aug 11th,
WinPatrol was detecting and removing the MS Blaster worm while other software
companies scrambled to create new definition files. "

Both Finjan, Tiny personal firewall and Winpatrol are freeware. The antivirus
was $19.95 with free updates. All four of these run in the System Tray and use
very, very little resources.
rhino



See my pond
www.htcomp.net/rhino_4_good/index.htm

"Without the second ammendment, the others are just suggestions."

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:47:47 GMT, in rec.ponds you wrote:

Hey GrannyEast
You got it right on Norton! I keep the Anti-Virus Updated.
It's Automatically updated ... they let me know via a right hand corner
pop-up. This step is as crucial as scanning the system on a daily basis.
I have a 4 or 5 year old system. I keep it cleaned - often.

GrannyWest
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"SNIP FOR BREVITY

I am still running Win98 and it isn't affected by this worm. I have had good
luck with "EZ Antivirus" as a small footprint program from Computer Associates
International. It doesn't interfer with any other programs and runs in the
background. It updates in only about 2 minutes and I have never been infected.

I use "Tiny Personal Firewall" from Tiny Software. Again it has a small impact
and really does well blocking ports before any thing gets through. I used
ZoneAlarm and BlackIce in the past but this seems to work better. In fact I
installed it in Oct 2001 and it has never needed updating or given problems.

Another program I use is called "Finjan SurfinGuard" from http://www.finjan.com/
This program is an anti-virus but it detects when something trys to run or trys
to change a setting on the sly, then stops it and lets you know. If you get
the "worm" it would block it from being able to run on your system. I think it
said that it sort of boxes in whatever it is and watches it without letting it
get to your main system. I really like it.
And finally i use a neat utility called WinPatrol. I copied this from their
website
"
WinPatrol with Scotty the Windows Watch Dog will sniff out Worms, Adware,
Spyware, Cookies, Trojan horses and other malicious, nasty programs that may
attack your computer without a need for constant updates. One Aug 11th,
WinPatrol was detecting and removing the MS Blaster worm while other software
companies scrambled to create new definition files. "

Both Finjan, Tiny personal firewall and Winpatrol are freeware. The antivirus
was $19.95 with free updates. All four of these run in the System Tray and use
very, very little resources.
rhino



See my pond
www.htcomp.net/rhino_4_good/index.htm

"Without the second ammendment, the others are just suggestions."

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:47:47 GMT, in rec.ponds you wrote:

Hey GrannyEast
You got it right on Norton! I keep the Anti-Virus Updated.
It's Automatically updated ... they let me know via a right hand corner
pop-up. This step is as crucial as scanning the system on a daily basis.
I have a 4 or 5 year old system. I keep it cleaned - often.

GrannyWest
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"SNIP FOR BREVITY

I am still running Win98 and it isn't affected by this worm. I have had good
luck with "EZ Antivirus" as a small footprint program from Computer Associates
International. It doesn't interfer with any other programs and runs in the
background. It updates in only about 2 minutes and I have never been infected.

I use "Tiny Personal Firewall" from Tiny Software. Again it has a small impact
and really does well blocking ports before any thing gets through. I used
ZoneAlarm and BlackIce in the past but this seems to work better. In fact I
installed it in Oct 2001 and it has never needed updating or given problems.

Another program I use is called "Finjan SurfinGuard" from http://www.finjan.com/
This program is an anti-virus but it detects when something trys to run or trys
to change a setting on the sly, then stops it and lets you know. If you get
the "worm" it would block it from being able to run on your system. I think it
said that it sort of boxes in whatever it is and watches it without letting it
get to your main system. I really like it.
And finally i use a neat utility called WinPatrol. I copied this from their
website
"
WinPatrol with Scotty the Windows Watch Dog will sniff out Worms, Adware,
Spyware, Cookies, Trojan horses and other malicious, nasty programs that may
attack your computer without a need for constant updates. One Aug 11th,
WinPatrol was detecting and removing the MS Blaster worm while other software
companies scrambled to create new definition files. "

Both Finjan, Tiny personal firewall and Winpatrol are freeware. The antivirus
was $19.95 with free updates. All four of these run in the System Tray and use
very, very little resources.
rhino



See my pond
www.htcomp.net/rhino_4_good/index.htm

"Without the second ammendment, the others are just suggestions."

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:47:47 GMT, in rec.ponds you wrote:

Hey GrannyEast
You got it right on Norton! I keep the Anti-Virus Updated.
It's Automatically updated ... they let me know via a right hand corner
pop-up. This step is as crucial as scanning the system on a daily basis.
I have a 4 or 5 year old system. I keep it cleaned - often.

GrannyWest
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"SNIP FOR BREVITY

I am still running Win98 and it isn't affected by this worm. I have had good
luck with "EZ Antivirus" as a small footprint program from Computer Associates
International. It doesn't interfer with any other programs and runs in the
background. It updates in only about 2 minutes and I have never been infected.

I use "Tiny Personal Firewall" from Tiny Software. Again it has a small impact
and really does well blocking ports before any thing gets through. I used
ZoneAlarm and BlackIce in the past but this seems to work better. In fact I
installed it in Oct 2001 and it has never needed updating or given problems.

Another program I use is called "Finjan SurfinGuard" from http://www.finjan.com/
This program is an anti-virus but it detects when something trys to run or trys
to change a setting on the sly, then stops it and lets you know. If you get
the "worm" it would block it from being able to run on your system. I think it
said that it sort of boxes in whatever it is and watches it without letting it
get to your main system. I really like it.
And finally i use a neat utility called WinPatrol. I copied this from their
website
"
WinPatrol with Scotty the Windows Watch Dog will sniff out Worms, Adware,
Spyware, Cookies, Trojan horses and other malicious, nasty programs that may
attack your computer without a need for constant updates. One Aug 11th,
WinPatrol was detecting and removing the MS Blaster worm while other software
companies scrambled to create new definition files. "

Both Finjan, Tiny personal firewall and Winpatrol are freeware. The antivirus
was $19.95 with free updates. All four of these run in the System Tray and use
very, very little resources.
rhino



See my pond
www.htcomp.net/rhino_4_good/index.htm

"Without the second ammendment, the others are just suggestions."

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:53:17 -0600
john rutz wrote:

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:32 -0600
john rutz wrote:



Not only is it still around, it's still available. There
is also an emulator for Commodore's OS that runs inside Linux. I
wouldn't doubt that there's one for OS/2 also.

Cybe R. Wizard


-- now why does that not surprise me Linux gets better an better

John Rutz

I tell ya, you've seen nothing until you've seen your regular Windows OS
running in a window on a Linux machine. I was flabbergasted the first
time I used VMWare. It saw my Windows drive and configuration was a
breeze, told it how much memory to use and which peripherals, bang!
Windows complete desktop, all settings correct in a sizable window on my
Linux desktop. It goes through the boot process and everything, just
like booting up a regular computer except that it's a virtual computer
made of software.
But I'm not here to proselytize, folks, back to ponding! Or virii, or
whatever it is today. ;-]

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

"Cybe R. Wizard" wrote in message
news:20030815024434.113524bb.cyber_wizard@mindspri ng.com...
snip
I tell ya, you've seen nothing until you've seen your regular Windows OS
running in a window on a Linux machine. I was flabbergasted the first
time I used VMWare. It saw my Windows drive and configuration was a
breeze, told it how much memory to use and which peripherals, bang!
Windows complete desktop, all settings correct in a sizable window on my
Linux desktop. It goes through the boot process and everything, just
like booting up a regular computer except that it's a virtual computer
made of software.
But I'm not here to proselytize, folks, back to ponding! Or virii, or
whatever it is today. ;-]
snip

I won't engage the MS sucks, Linux is great topic, as I think they are both
great, and both have a place. I will say however, that if we put Linux on
90% of the desktops in the world, we'd be reading about the latest virus to
hit linux. Any system can be compromised. The statistics are just a bit
skewed because we have so many winders systems out there.

BV.

In om, on 08/14/03
at 10:24 PM, "Cybe R. Wizard" said:

Os/2 is still around?? I havent seen that it seems in years

John Rutz

Not only is it still around, it's still available. I saw a link to a
site just the other day where it was available for free download.
Sorry, I don't recall what it was but I'm sure Google can find it. There
is also an emulator for Commodore's OS that runs inside Linux. I
wouldn't doubt that there's one for OS/2 also.

Not free, but the latest is for sale by Serenity Systems at
www.ecomstation.com. Take a look.


Alan

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:30:45 -0400
"BenignVanilla" wrote:

I won't engage the MS sucks, Linux is great topic, as I think they are
both great, and both have a place. I will say however, that if we put
Linux on 90% of the desktops in the world, we'd be reading about the
latest virus to hit linux. Any system can be compromised. The
statistics are just a bit skewed because we have so many winders
systems out there.

BV.

Yes, there's a place for numerous OSs and they each have their strengths
and weaknesses. That said, there will never be as many exploits for
*nix (whatever type or version) just because it's so danged hard to
compromise the system. Unix (and therefore all Unix clones) was built
from the ground up to be a secure networking system, not a stand-alone
personal computing environment. Microsoft, OTOH, was designed to be a
stand-alone unit for personal use, not tied to other computers. The
internet came along as a surprise phenomenon and Windows has been trying
to adapt their technology to that ever since. They have come a long way
with Windows XP, I understand, toward stability and interoperability,
but still lag behind in security.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L