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Old 14-09-2003, 11:24 PM
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We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this ?
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Old 15-09-2003, 01:12 AM
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Put a flat slate over the top of the return line about 1/2 inch or so to
cause the water to diffuse. Change the orientation and elevation to achieve
the look you want.
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"Norm Courage" wrote in message
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We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this

?
--
The Courages




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Old 15-09-2003, 02:12 AM
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Put a flat slate over the top of the return line about 1/2 inch or so to
cause the water to diffuse. Change the orientation and elevation to achieve
the look you want.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Norm Courage" wrote in message
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We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this

?
--
The Courages




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Old 15-09-2003, 02:12 PM
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The easiest way to get away from the "shooting water" look is to have your
filter feed a collecting pool at the back of your waterfall, -this way your
"pool" fills and then overflows down your flagstone steps - the "pool"
doesn't have to be large - mine holds maybe 2 gals and I pump ~ 1600 gph
into it
Gale :~)


We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this

?
--
The Courages




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Old 16-09-2003, 01:04 AM
Norm Courage
 
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Excellent idea, maybe a small plastic bucket, the kind with the pour spout
molded in and have the lip sit flush with the top of the first tier in the
falls !!
"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
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The easiest way to get away from the "shooting water" look is to have your
filter feed a collecting pool at the back of your waterfall, -this way

your
"pool" fills and then overflows down your flagstone steps - the "pool"
doesn't have to be large - mine holds maybe 2 gals and I pump ~ 1600 gph
into it
Gale :~)


We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the

incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered

this
?
--
The Courages








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Old 16-09-2003, 07:12 AM
Carl Beyer
 
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In article rs.com,
"Norm Courage" wrote:

Excellent idea, maybe a small plastic bucket, the kind with the pour spout
molded in and have the lip sit flush with the top of the first tier in the
falls !!



Might I suggest a larger pipe. My waterfall is fed from a 1600GPH into
a 1.25" pipe. I installed a 4" pipe on up a bit. This reduces the
pressure so that it doesn shoot out, it pours out. And like everyone
said, a catch basin at the top is a good idea.

Carl

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Old 16-09-2003, 10:42 AM
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Norm,

I don't have enough room for a decent pool at the top. My solution was to
arrange several rocks right in the path of the discharge to "tame" and
spread the water before it reaches the outcrop.

M.S.Kraft

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this

?
--
The Courages




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Old 16-09-2003, 03:02 PM
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When I built my very first pond, I had the same problem. I made a "manifold"
of sorts: a Tee off the feeder line, with two lengths of PVC, capped at the
ends. I drilled the PVC to give holes for the water to escape, but now -
instead of coming out of one hole (fast!) it came out of two dozen holes
(much more slowly). With a rock or two on top of it, you never even saw it.

Hope this helps.
Lee

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
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We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered this

?
--
The Courages




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Old 16-09-2003, 04:02 PM
Lee Brouillet
 
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Further to the above, make sure the holes are drilled on what will be the
*bottom* of the PVC, not straight out our UP! You will have a different sort
of water feature if you do that . . . G!
Lee

"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
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When I built my very first pond, I had the same problem. I made a

"manifold"
of sorts: a Tee off the feeder line, with two lengths of PVC, capped at

the
ends. I drilled the PVC to give holes for the water to escape, but now -
instead of coming out of one hole (fast!) it came out of two dozen holes
(much more slowly). With a rock or two on top of it, you never even saw

it.

Hope this helps.
Lee

"Norm Courage" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

We just finished our new waterfalls using Great Stuff expanding foam to

seal
the cracks, it worked great, thanks to everyone in the group for the

helpful
advice. Now my question, we are looking for a way to diffuse the

incoming
water supply for the falls, it is fed by a 2 inch return line (1650
imp.gallons) from my bio filter and at present it shoots out past the 2
upper most tiers of the falls. Anyone else encountered and conquered

this
?
--
The Courages






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Old 16-09-2003, 04:12 PM
John Bachman
 
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:40:31 GMT, "Remydog"
wrote:

Norm,

I don't have enough room for a decent pool at the top. My solution was to
arrange several rocks right in the path of the discharge to "tame" and
spread the water before it reaches the outcrop.

M.S.Kraft


That is the solution no matter how it is implemented. Remember that
whatever amount of water your pump pumps that same amount will flow
over your waterfall and/or in your stream. If the flow path is narrow
the water will flow quickly. If the flow path is wide, the water will
flow slowly.

Putting barriers in the way of the water usually forces it to flow
around the barrier in a narrow channel which will result in fast flow.
Providing a wide channel will result in slower flow.

John
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