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Old 22-03-2004, 05:20 AM
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There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out of that
argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt. For treating
parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of the salt resistant
parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much salt to add is to know how
much salt you currently have in your pond. Salt does not evaporate, but is
reduced by water changes. Go to http://www.click2roark.com which require
registration, but a good site, and use the salt calculator.
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RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Bill Kerrell" wrote in message
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Now that winter is over and the algie is in full bloom .. so it seems. I
was wondering about resalting. Our pond was put in in July of last year. We
had added salt to start, now is it time to resalt and how much? Our pond is
1500 gallons. Do I broadcast it or put it throught the filter?
Thanks,
Bill - Pensacola, FL


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Old 22-03-2004, 05:21 AM
Cybe R. Wizard
 
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
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Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L
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Old 22-03-2004, 05:22 AM
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Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L



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Old 22-03-2004, 05:39 AM
RichToyBox
 
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There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out of that
argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt. For treating
parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of the salt resistant
parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much salt to add is to know how
much salt you currently have in your pond. Salt does not evaporate, but is
reduced by water changes. Go to http://www.click2roark.com which require
registration, but a good site, and use the salt calculator.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Bill Kerrell" wrote in message
news:Nf67c.19120$Cf3.4087@lakeread01...
Now that winter is over and the algie is in full bloom .. so it seems. I
was wondering about resalting. Our pond was put in in July of last year. We
had added salt to start, now is it time to resalt and how much? Our pond is
1500 gallons. Do I broadcast it or put it throught the filter?
Thanks,
Bill - Pensacola, FL


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Old 22-03-2004, 05:41 AM
Cybe R. Wizard
 
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L


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Old 22-03-2004, 05:41 AM
Nedra
 
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Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT
"RichToyBox" wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out
of that argument. Most that use salt routinely will use 0.1% salt.
For treating parasites, the amount needs to be 0.3% and for some of
the salt resistant parasites, 0.6%. The only way to know how much
salt to add is to know how much salt you currently have in your pond.
Salt does not evaporate, but is reduced by water changes. Go to
http://www.click2roark.com which require registration, but a good
site, and use the salt calculator.--
RichToyBox


Have I mentioned my own solution? (no pun intended, /oh, sure/)
I drop a box of non-iodized salt with the top cut off directly into my
ponds once a year. Water changes remove it over the course of the year
and the fish self-treat by tail-fanning the salt box then swimming
repeatedly through the stirred up areas. No science behind it, but it
works for me. And the fish, I suppose, since they do pretty well.
(Until I do something /else/ stupid like last fall)

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L



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Old 22-03-2004, 06:42 AM
Cybe R. Wizard
 
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L
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Old 22-03-2004, 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the info, Cybe.
Although my pond is about 3,000 gallons, I think this is
my solution

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L



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Old 22-03-2004, 01:55 PM
Nedra
 
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Thanks for the info, Cybe.
Although my pond is about 3,000 gallons, I think this is
my solution

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 05:06:43 GMT
"Nedra" wrote:

Cybe R,

How many gallons in your pond? I assume you are
using a pound box of salt?
Sounds doable for my pond.

Nedra


Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L



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Old 22-03-2004, 05:50 PM
Hal
 
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:40:20 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote:

Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.


Adding a 1 lb. box of salt to 900 gallons of water isn't much.
The rate for a .1% solution is .88 lbs per hundred gallons.
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Old 22-03-2004, 05:55 PM
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out of that
argument.


There was a statement in SRAC bulletins recommending a small amount
of salt .02% to .05% I think, but I couldn't find it when I went
looking recently. Research changes ideas and if you know of a
reference that advises not to use salt in aquaculture please share it.

Regards,

Hal
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Old 22-03-2004, 06:02 PM
Hal
 
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:40:20 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote:

Best guestimate is 900 gallons in the front pond, 1200 in the back,
although that last figure has changed with the recently begun remodel.
Yep, pound box of salt. I just make sure to do a water trade fairly
often through the season so salt residual isn't a problem next year.


Adding a 1 lb. box of salt to 900 gallons of water isn't much.
The rate for a .1% solution is .88 lbs per hundred gallons.
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Old 22-03-2004, 06:06 PM
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:56:56 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

There are arguments pro and con on the use of salt. I will stay out of that
argument.


There was a statement in SRAC bulletins recommending a small amount
of salt .02% to .05% I think, but I couldn't find it when I went
looking recently. Research changes ideas and if you know of a
reference that advises not to use salt in aquaculture please share it.

Regards,

Hal
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