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Old 14-09-2004, 04:12 PM
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I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?

BV.


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Old 14-09-2004, 04:16 PM
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


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Old 14-09-2004, 06:37 PM
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access

to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long

side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea

here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the

bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV



Plan B looks simpler.

But I was planning something like Plan A with PVC stubs in the ground. I
would use the stubs for electic frence, holders for sturdy cover or holder
for loose snow cover.




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I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom

drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece

of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges

around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


Plan B looks simpler.

But I was planning something like Plan A with PVC stubs in the ground. I
would use the stubs for electic frence, holders for sturdy cover or holder
for loose snow cover.


I am definately going to try plan B first.

BV.


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Old 15-09-2004, 04:07 AM
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access

to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long

side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea

here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the

bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end up with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone




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Old 15-09-2004, 04:36 PM
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"J.D. Stone" wrote in message =
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Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end =

up with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it =

starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop =

house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with =

runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

snip

JD, this may be a better and easier to implement idea for me. Thanks.

BV.
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Old 15-09-2004, 04:36 PM
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I did something very similar last year to hold up the leaf nets. Instead of
string, we used bamboo canes from one arch to the next to give additional
support. This year we plan to cover with vinyl. In Home Depot you can
purchase a long zipper
that is sticky and will apply to the plastic. You then cut up the middle
and you have a doorway. These are used in home reno when an area is blocked
off with plastic.

Just another idea,
Heather



"J.D. Stone" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the

debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access

to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long

side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea

here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the

bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom

drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece

of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges

around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end up

with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone





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Old 15-09-2004, 09:54 PM
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:36:12 -0400, "Heather" wrote:

In Home Depot you can
purchase a long zipper
that is sticky and will apply to the plastic.


Way cool, are they very expensive?

BV, the shade cloth I use for the lily pond, laid flat, never had leaves on
it, though there were leaves all around it. I assume it was just too slick
for them to stick too. Looking at it though I would never had guess. With a
slight angle, should be no problem. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
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"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:36:12 -0400, "Heather"

wrote:

In Home Depot you can
purchase a long zipper
that is sticky and will apply to the plastic.


Way cool, are they very expensive?

BV, the shade cloth I use for the lily pond, laid flat, never had leaves

on
it, though there were leaves all around it. I assume it was just too slick
for them to stick too. Looking at it though I would never had guess. With

a
slight angle, should be no problem. ~ jan


We get at least a major snowfall each year, so I want to make sure I can
support or run that snow off. I think I am leaning towards the hoop house
concent. Sounds like it would be the easiest to build, dismantle and store.

BV.


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"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:36:12 -0400, "Heather"

wrote:

In Home Depot you can
purchase a long zipper
that is sticky and will apply to the plastic.


Way cool, are they very expensive?

BV, the shade cloth I use for the lily pond, laid flat, never had leaves

on
it, though there were leaves all around it. I assume it was just too slick
for them to stick too. Looking at it though I would never had guess. With

a
slight angle, should be no problem. ~ jan


We get at least a major snowfall each year, so I want to make sure I can
support or run that snow off. I think I am leaning towards the hoop house
concent. Sounds like it would be the easiest to build, dismantle and store.

BV.




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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:36:12 -0400, "Heather" wrote:

In Home Depot you can
purchase a long zipper
that is sticky and will apply to the plastic.


Way cool, are they very expensive?

BV, the shade cloth I use for the lily pond, laid flat, never had leaves on
it, though there were leaves all around it. I assume it was just too slick
for them to stick too. Looking at it though I would never had guess. With a
slight angle, should be no problem. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
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"J.D. Stone" wrote in message =
...
snip
Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end =

up with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it =

starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop =

house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with =

runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

snip

JD, this may be a better and easier to implement idea for me. Thanks.

BV.
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Heather
 
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I did something very similar last year to hold up the leaf nets. Instead of
string, we used bamboo canes from one arch to the next to give additional
support. This year we plan to cover with vinyl. In Home Depot you can
purchase a long zipper
that is sticky and will apply to the plastic. You then cut up the middle
and you have a doorway. These are used in home reno when an area is blocked
off with plastic.

Just another idea,
Heather



"J.D. Stone" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the

debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access

to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long

side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea

here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the

bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom

drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece

of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges

around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end up

with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone





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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access

to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long

side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea

here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the

bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end up with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone


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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of covering the pomd this year to keep the debris/fallout
down. I have pine trees behind the pond, so I do not have ready access

to
the back of the pond. I am thinking of an off zxis cover with a long

side,
and short side to aid in implemetation. I have a doodle of the idea

here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover.jpg.

I figured I'd pound some rebar into the ground, slide the PVC over the

bar
and then cover in plastic or landscaping cloth.

Any thoughts?


I just had a thought. There might be an easier way. I have a bottom drain
made from 4'' PVC. I have yet to install diffuser, so I have a 4'' elbow
sticking up into the pond. When I want to drain the VF, I stand a piece of
4'' PVC in the elbow, blocking it off. This pipe sticks up out of the

pond.
Why not do this, drape plastic over the pipe, and anchor the edges around
the pond? Picture here,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/links/ideas/pondcover2.jpg.

BV


Unless you plan a curved surface to ensure water runoff you will end up with
a trap (sort of like what happens to my boat cover often). Once it starts
collecting water it just gets worse. I am planning on making a hoop house,
similar to what you are planning but side members top help with runoff.
Here's some ideas,
http://gentlewindfarm.com/hoop.html
http://www.members.shaw.ca/renaissan.../hoophouse.htm
http://www.westsidegardener.com/howto/hoophouse.html

JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone




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