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Hi everyone
I am new to growing rose's, and am a bit bewildered as where to start. I
mean what would be a good type of rose to start of with etc.
I live in south wales in the UK, my garden soil, is quite good, I have grown
tomato's, asters, marigolds, lupins, gladioli, heathers, tulips to name but
a few. Bearing in mind my soil can grow the previously mentioned plants,
what type/name of rose should I start of with. I quite like the Tea Roses,
but am unsure if they will grow in my soil
any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
R.J Vangellis



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Looking at the description of your climate, (temperate, rain coat and a
sweater in the winter) it sounds like just about any type of rose will do
well for you. As far as which rose, go to www.helpmefind.com and use to
search engine to have a look at what is out there. The advanced search
option can isolate types based on your desires/requirements.

Roses like well drained soil, a good amount of water, at least 5 hours of
sun/day, and regular feedings. I've grown then in soil types from clay to
sand. www.ars.org can give you more advice on preparing the soil.

Think about how much area you have to plant, how much sun the area gets and
how much you want to fiddle with the roses (spraying and the like). That
goes a long way in guiding you in your rose selection.

Cheers

Jeff, Southeast Michigan, Zone 5


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Hi everyone
I am new to growing rose's, and am a bit bewildered as where to start. I
mean what would be a good type of rose to start of with etc.
I live in south wales in the UK, my garden soil, is quite good, I have
grown tomato's, asters, marigolds, lupins, gladioli, heathers, tulips to
name but a few. Bearing in mind my soil can grow the previously mentioned
plants, what type/name of rose should I start of with. I quite like the
Tea Roses, but am unsure if they will grow in my soil
any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
R.J Vangellis



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Hi everyone
I am new to growing rose's, and am a bit bewildered as where to start. I
mean what would be a good type of rose to start of with etc.
I live in south wales in the UK, my garden soil, is quite good, I have grown
tomato's, asters, marigolds, lupins, gladioli, heathers, tulips to name but
a few. Bearing in mind my soil can grow the previously mentioned plants,
what type/name of rose should I start of with. I quite like the Tea Roses,
but am unsure if they will grow in my soil
any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
R.J Vangellis

Most roses are easy to grow. To avoid problems, have a look at what is grown locally first. Then go to the rose growers' websites and look at what is on offer. David Austin, Peter Beales, Pococks, Mattocks, are all reliable.
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Most roses are easy to grow. To avoid problems, have a look at what is
grown locally first. Then go to the rose growers' websites and look at
what is on offer. David Austin, Peter Beales, Pococks, Mattocks, are
all reliable.


beccabunga


Thank you both for your very helpful advice and also for the links to
various sites. I really appreciate your help. I have never grown a rose in
my life. But have decided at the ripe old age of 56 it's time to try.
My mother (no longer with us) bless her soul, used to specialise in Rose
Growing, I remember as a kid our back garden was just a flourish of roses of
all different colurs and types. I remember she had names for all of them,
two that have stuck in my mind are Lady Harkness and the Peace rose..
She used to make me laugh as a kid, when we went out somewhere if she saw a
rose she liked in a public park/garden, she would take a cutting from it
(cheeky old mam lol) and take it home and do something with it and then
plant it, and you could bet your life the thing would grow and flourish into
a masterpiece. What she did I haven't a clue, but she certainly had "green
fingers" cars used to go by our house and slow down just to look at the
display, some even took photo's.
I hope I end up as knowledgeable as her.
Thank's again
Vangellis


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Your welcome

There's really not a lot of magic to roses. I agree, David Austin and the
other listed roses would be a good place to start. They all are more shrub
in habit, so require a bit more space, but are nice roses. Rosemary
Harkness and the Peace rose are in my garden, and I love them. The Harkness
are generally floribundas or Highbred Teas, as is Peace. They often require
a bit more care, but for me, they are well worth the bother. I find as much
pleasure in caring for them as looking at them. Starting from that
position, and they are seldom a bother.

Good luck, and welcome to the family.

Jeff, Southeast Michigan, Zone 5


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"beccabunga" wrote in message
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Most roses are easy to grow. To avoid problems, have a look at what is
grown locally first. Then go to the rose growers' websites and look at
what is on offer. David Austin, Peter Beales, Pococks, Mattocks, are
all reliable.


beccabunga


Thank you both for your very helpful advice and also for the links to
various sites. I really appreciate your help. I have never grown a rose in
my life. But have decided at the ripe old age of 56 it's time to try.
My mother (no longer with us) bless her soul, used to specialise in Rose
Growing, I remember as a kid our back garden was just a flourish of roses
of all different colurs and types. I remember she had names for all of
them, two that have stuck in my mind are Lady Harkness and the Peace
rose..
She used to make me laugh as a kid, when we went out somewhere if she saw
a rose she liked in a public park/garden, she would take a cutting from it
(cheeky old mam lol) and take it home and do something with it and then
plant it, and you could bet your life the thing would grow and flourish
into a masterpiece. What she did I haven't a clue, but she certainly had
"green fingers" cars used to go by our house and slow down just to look at
the display, some even took photo's.
I hope I end up as knowledgeable as her.
Thank's again
Vangellis






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Peace is a lovely rose. Worth starting with that!
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The tea roses are the result of crossing of two orginal China roses with various Bourbons and Noisette roses. Tea roses are considerably more tender than other Old Garden Roses. They grow at any place. They only need good nourishment.
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The tea roses are the result of crossing of two orginal China roses
with
various Bourbons and Noisette roses. Tea roses are considerably more
tender than other Old Garden Roses. They grow at any place. They
only
need good nourishment.
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Tea roses are tender, meaning they can't handle harsh winters. Hence
they cannot "grow at any place". They do well in Zone 7 or warmer. I
suppose one could protect them over winter in colder zones but why
bother? There are roses that can handle colder weather. I learned
that lesson - albeit from the too warm side of the equation - the hard
way. Now when I have to replace a rose, I'm more than likely to
replace it with a Tea. They have done extremely well in my garden and
seem to require little care. I do water my roses regularly and keep
them mulched, but feeding is haphazard at best.

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8 USA




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