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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
Mike,
I apologize if I've offended you. It was also not my intention to threaten; I was stating my thoughts and feelings honestly, though perhaps without tact. If nobody's interested, is it a threat t say I'll take my efforts elsewhere? I'm afraid you're mistaken about my "elitist worldview." I'm a native English speaker. Granted, I'm dissatisfied with some things in the culture I belong to. But that's not the same as elitism. You are certainly free to pass, of course. As is everyone - including myself. Dan Mike wrote in message ... On 8 Mar 2004, (Dan Gannon) wrote: (Dan Gannon) wrote in message .com... everyone is welcome: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature Roses group open forever with no participation. This is quite depressing. At least I know speakers of many other languages are keenly interested in this topic. Need the English-speaking world lose out? You decide. Right now, I'm feeling like I'm only going to contribute in other languages. (Cantonese, Spanish, Thai, etc.) Phooey! Dan Ummm.. you're coming off a bit strong there, Dan. It's a turn-off. Sounds like you're scolding and threatening us if we don't join your group. Then there's that elitist worldview that English-speaking people are boors slipping into your rant that'll just charm the pants off everyone. Pass. Mike |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
Mike,
I apologize if I've offended you. It was also not my intention to threaten; I was stating my thoughts and feelings honestly, though perhaps without tact. If nobody's interested, is it a threat t say I'll take my efforts elsewhere? I'm afraid you're mistaken about my "elitist worldview." I'm a native English speaker. Granted, I'm dissatisfied with some things in the culture I belong to. But that's not the same as elitism. You are certainly free to pass, of course. As is everyone - including myself. Dan Mike wrote in message ... On 8 Mar 2004, (Dan Gannon) wrote: (Dan Gannon) wrote in message .com... everyone is welcome: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature Roses group open forever with no participation. This is quite depressing. At least I know speakers of many other languages are keenly interested in this topic. Need the English-speaking world lose out? You decide. Right now, I'm feeling like I'm only going to contribute in other languages. (Cantonese, Spanish, Thai, etc.) Phooey! Dan Ummm.. you're coming off a bit strong there, Dan. It's a turn-off. Sounds like you're scolding and threatening us if we don't join your group. Then there's that elitist worldview that English-speaking people are boors slipping into your rant that'll just charm the pants off everyone. Pass. Mike |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.30.12.4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1078788262 9805 127.0.0.1 (8 Mar 2004 23:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Path: kermit!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.as h.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!po stnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: kermit rec.gardens.roses:97482 Hi Philip, I understand. For myself, I thought a specific forum was necessary for the fragrant miniatures. As it stands, it's very difficult to identify all of the fragrant miniatures. Many of them appear "lost" in the sea of other varieties, some may have slipped into obscurity, some are only mentioned in particular forums or publications, etc. I think a thorough search and record of these varieties is essential. There are outstanding varieties, both new and old, that are virtually unknown among rosarians, even some who specialize in miniatures! I think these varieties could be much more popular if the general public could become aware of them. The average miniature rose I see in local stores is non-fragrant, not an identified cultivar, and often disappointing for other reasons. I think these factors have severely harmed the public awareness and oinion of miniature roses. There doesn't seem to be any valid reason that it must remain so. I wish to see further development of new varieties, which may be accelerated with further attention given to the subject. I personally will be attempting to develop new varieties. There is no guarantee of success, but I think if I persevere, I increase my chances. I apologize for the disgruntled nature of my previous message. Dan Philip Lewis wrote in message .edu... (Dan Gannon) writes: Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature While I personally am interested in miniatures (and bonsai, and other dwarfed species... sucks to only have a small yard I do not feel I have sufficient interest in joining yet another yahoogroup. This newsgroup is about roses in general so miniature rose discussion would be on topic here. Personally, i'll stay/ask here if i have questions on miniatures. |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
"Dan Gannon" wrote in message
om... Hello, everyone! You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses." The purpose of the group is identifying, discussing and sharing photos of the fragrant miniatures. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses/ I have never understood the need of people to create a create specialized categories, when the volume for that subject is so low. Most of the questions about minis in rec.gardens.roses are along the lines of "I bought this mini at the nursery on impulse, and now it's dying, please help" "If you build it, they will come" only worked in field of dreams. But I guess the lack of membership to your group has proven that. Sameer |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
"Dan Gannon" wrote in message
om... Hello, everyone! You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses." The purpose of the group is identifying, discussing and sharing photos of the fragrant miniatures. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses/ I have never understood the need of people to create a create specialized categories, when the volume for that subject is so low. Most of the questions about minis in rec.gardens.roses are along the lines of "I bought this mini at the nursery on impulse, and now it's dying, please help" "If you build it, they will come" only worked in field of dreams. But I guess the lack of membership to your group has proven that. Sameer |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
Mike,
I apologize if I've offended you. It was also not my intention to threaten; I was stating my thoughts and feelings honestly, though perhaps without tact. If nobody's interested, is it a threat t say I'll take my efforts elsewhere? I'm afraid you're mistaken about my "elitist worldview." I'm a native English speaker. Granted, I'm dissatisfied with some things in the culture I belong to. But that's not the same as elitism. You are certainly free to pass, of course. As is everyone - including myself. Dan Mike wrote in message ... On 8 Mar 2004, (Dan Gannon) wrote: (Dan Gannon) wrote in message .com... everyone is welcome: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature Roses group open forever with no participation. This is quite depressing. At least I know speakers of many other languages are keenly interested in this topic. Need the English-speaking world lose out? You decide. Right now, I'm feeling like I'm only going to contribute in other languages. (Cantonese, Spanish, Thai, etc.) Phooey! Dan Ummm.. you're coming off a bit strong there, Dan. It's a turn-off. Sounds like you're scolding and threatening us if we don't join your group. Then there's that elitist worldview that English-speaking people are boors slipping into your rant that'll just charm the pants off everyone. Pass. Mike |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
"Dan Gannon" wrote in message
om... Hello, everyone! You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses." The purpose of the group is identifying, discussing and sharing photos of the fragrant miniatures. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses/ I have never understood the need of people to create a create specialized categories, when the volume for that subject is so low. Most of the questions about minis in rec.gardens.roses are along the lines of "I bought this mini at the nursery on impulse, and now it's dying, please help" "If you build it, they will come" only worked in field of dreams. But I guess the lack of membership to your group has proven that. Sameer |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.30.12.4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1078788262 9805 127.0.0.1 (8 Mar 2004 23:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Path: kermit!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.as h.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!po stnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: kermit rec.gardens.roses:97482 Hi Philip, I understand. For myself, I thought a specific forum was necessary for the fragrant miniatures. As it stands, it's very difficult to identify all of the fragrant miniatures. Many of them appear "lost" in the sea of other varieties, some may have slipped into obscurity, some are only mentioned in particular forums or publications, etc. I think a thorough search and record of these varieties is essential. There are outstanding varieties, both new and old, that are virtually unknown among rosarians, even some who specialize in miniatures! I think these varieties could be much more popular if the general public could become aware of them. The average miniature rose I see in local stores is non-fragrant, not an identified cultivar, and often disappointing for other reasons. I think these factors have severely harmed the public awareness and oinion of miniature roses. There doesn't seem to be any valid reason that it must remain so. I wish to see further development of new varieties, which may be accelerated with further attention given to the subject. I personally will be attempting to develop new varieties. There is no guarantee of success, but I think if I persevere, I increase my chances. I apologize for the disgruntled nature of my previous message. Dan Philip Lewis wrote in message .edu... (Dan Gannon) writes: Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature While I personally am interested in miniatures (and bonsai, and other dwarfed species... sucks to only have a small yard I do not feel I have sufficient interest in joining yet another yahoogroup. This newsgroup is about roses in general so miniature rose discussion would be on topic here. Personally, i'll stay/ask here if i have questions on miniatures. |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
Mike,
I apologize if I've offended you. It was also not my intention to threaten; I was stating my thoughts and feelings honestly, though perhaps without tact. If nobody's interested, is it a threat t say I'll take my efforts elsewhere? I'm afraid you're mistaken about my "elitist worldview." I'm a native English speaker. Granted, I'm dissatisfied with some things in the culture I belong to. But that's not the same as elitism. You are certainly free to pass, of course. As is everyone - including myself. Dan Mike wrote in message ... On 8 Mar 2004, (Dan Gannon) wrote: (Dan Gannon) wrote in message .com... everyone is welcome: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature Roses group open forever with no participation. This is quite depressing. At least I know speakers of many other languages are keenly interested in this topic. Need the English-speaking world lose out? You decide. Right now, I'm feeling like I'm only going to contribute in other languages. (Cantonese, Spanish, Thai, etc.) Phooey! Dan Ummm.. you're coming off a bit strong there, Dan. It's a turn-off. Sounds like you're scolding and threatening us if we don't join your group. Then there's that elitist worldview that English-speaking people are boors slipping into your rant that'll just charm the pants off everyone. Pass. Mike |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
Mike,
I apologize if I've offended you. It was also not my intention to threaten; I was stating my thoughts and feelings honestly, though perhaps without tact. If nobody's interested, is it a threat t say I'll take my efforts elsewhere? I'm afraid you're mistaken about my "elitist worldview." I'm a native English speaker. Granted, I'm dissatisfied with some things in the culture I belong to. But that's not the same as elitism. You are certainly free to pass, of course. As is everyone - including myself. Dan Mike wrote in message ... On 8 Mar 2004, (Dan Gannon) wrote: (Dan Gannon) wrote in message .com... everyone is welcome: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature Roses group open forever with no participation. This is quite depressing. At least I know speakers of many other languages are keenly interested in this topic. Need the English-speaking world lose out? You decide. Right now, I'm feeling like I'm only going to contribute in other languages. (Cantonese, Spanish, Thai, etc.) Phooey! Dan Ummm.. you're coming off a bit strong there, Dan. It's a turn-off. Sounds like you're scolding and threatening us if we don't join your group. Then there's that elitist worldview that English-speaking people are boors slipping into your rant that'll just charm the pants off everyone. Pass. Mike |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
Mike,
I apologize if I've offended you. It was also not my intention to threaten; I was stating my thoughts and feelings honestly, though perhaps without tact. If nobody's interested, is it a threat t say I'll take my efforts elsewhere? I'm afraid you're mistaken about my "elitist worldview." I'm a native English speaker. Granted, I'm dissatisfied with some things in the culture I belong to. But that's not the same as elitism. You are certainly free to pass, of course. As is everyone - including myself. Dan Mike wrote in message ... On 8 Mar 2004, (Dan Gannon) wrote: (Dan Gannon) wrote in message .com... everyone is welcome: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses Is there no interest among English-speaking people, in fragrant miniature roses? I'm not going to keep the Fragrant Miniature Roses group open forever with no participation. This is quite depressing. At least I know speakers of many other languages are keenly interested in this topic. Need the English-speaking world lose out? You decide. Right now, I'm feeling like I'm only going to contribute in other languages. (Cantonese, Spanish, Thai, etc.) Phooey! Dan Ummm.. you're coming off a bit strong there, Dan. It's a turn-off. Sounds like you're scolding and threatening us if we don't join your group. Then there's that elitist worldview that English-speaking people are boors slipping into your rant that'll just charm the pants off everyone. Pass. Mike |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
"Dan Gannon" wrote in message
om... Hello, everyone! You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses." The purpose of the group is identifying, discussing and sharing photos of the fragrant miniatures. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses/ I have never understood the need of people to create a create specialized categories, when the volume for that subject is so low. Most of the questions about minis in rec.gardens.roses are along the lines of "I bought this mini at the nursery on impulse, and now it's dying, please help" "If you build it, they will come" only worked in field of dreams. But I guess the lack of membership to your group has proven that. Sameer |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
"Dan Gannon" wrote in message
om... Hello, everyone! You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses." The purpose of the group is identifying, discussing and sharing photos of the fragrant miniatures. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses/ I have never understood the need of people to create a create specialized categories, when the volume for that subject is so low. Most of the questions about minis in rec.gardens.roses are along the lines of "I bought this mini at the nursery on impulse, and now it's dying, please help" "If you build it, they will come" only worked in field of dreams. But I guess the lack of membership to your group has proven that. Sameer |
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You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses"
"Dan Gannon" wrote in message
om... Hello, everyone! You're invited to my new Yahoo Group, "Fragrant Miniature Roses." The purpose of the group is identifying, discussing and sharing photos of the fragrant miniatures. Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fragrant_mini_roses/ I have never understood the need of people to create a create specialized categories, when the volume for that subject is so low. Most of the questions about minis in rec.gardens.roses are along the lines of "I bought this mini at the nursery on impulse, and now it's dying, please help" "If you build it, they will come" only worked in field of dreams. But I guess the lack of membership to your group has proven that. Sameer |
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