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Helmsley is on the edge of the North York Moors. Well worth a visit,
castle and a restored walled garden, several nice pubs, cafes and
restaurants.

Um - what was that all about? Why do we want to know this?

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from martin contains these words:
On 1 Nov 2005 03:36:02 -0800, "Jollygreenp"
wrote:

Helmsley is on the edge of the North York Moors. Well worth a visit,
castle and a restored walled garden, several nice pubs, cafes and
restaurants.

Nah, it's horrid, its' full of unfriendly men with flat caps and
whippets, it's cold and it rains all the time, better stay south of
Watford.

It is rumoured that they eat tripe and black pudding.

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What on earth is a cause good enuff to warrant publishing untruths
about the
beloved north country....H

Untruths? I thought it was pussyfooting around.

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from "shazzbat" contains these words:

I was very alarmed to see someone using a petrol strimmer and allowing a
girl of about 8-10 years old to remain in the vicinity. I trust everyone
here is far too safety conscious to do that. TBH I was surprised that they
let it go out without a word of warning.

Hmmm. I think it's still the have a look at:

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/inky.jpg

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from jane contains these words:

Have snipped stuff as you forgot to munge your addy!

Ta. I must admit I said something rude when I saw my post, but my
killfile copes rather well.

Now you put it up again I can say that I did see it, though where it's
gone, heaven alone knows.

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middleton.walker writes

"martin" wrote in message
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On 1 Nov 2005 03:36:02 -0800, "Jollygreenp"
wrote:

Helmsley is on the edge of the North York Moors. Well worth a visit,
castle and a restored walled garden, several nice pubs, cafes and
restaurants.

Nah, it's horrid, its' full of unfriendly men with flat caps and
whippets, it's cold and it rains all the time, better stay south of
Watford.

thou speaketh 'unfriendly like' about god's country...H

They always reckon americans don't do irony ... have you forgotten your
roots so soon? ;-)

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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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middleton.walker writes

"martin" wrote in message
. ..
On 1 Nov 2005 03:36:02 -0800, "Jollygreenp"
wrote:

Helmsley is on the edge of the North York Moors. Well worth a visit,
castle and a restored walled garden, several nice pubs, cafes and
restaurants.

Nah, it's horrid, its' full of unfriendly men with flat caps and
whippets, it's cold and it rains all the time, better stay south of
Watford.

thou speaketh 'unfriendly like' about god's country...H

They always reckon americans don't do irony ... have you forgotten your
roots so soon? ;-)

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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

Nay lassie me love....so soon tho...have been over here for over 50 years so
a little of the Yankee stuff must have unfortunately been absorbed....

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:54:44 GMT, Pam Moore
wrote:

The Big Dig got a mention on Points of View yesterday afternoon.
( I was only channel-hopping, honest).
Wogan said that the producers said it had been taken off because of
low viewing numbers. (They didn't ask me!)
They are looking for a more appropriate slot in which to show it.

The latest issue of Radio Times, out today, has a couple of letters
from readers complaining about the absence of The Big Dig. The
response is as on PoV, they are looking for a more appropriate slot.

Pam in Bristol

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from (WaltA) contains these words:
On 30 Oct 2005 16:05:00 -0800, "Jollygreenp" wrote:
We've been known to roast foreigners on the spit for
mistakes like that. I bet you pronounce Helmsley with an L in it as
well!

OT
PS
I suggest a long slow boil, at my age I think you would find me a bit
tough and stringy :-)

Are you angling for an invitation to pronounce Kirkcudbrightshire
or Jedburgh, hehee.

of course I would not be so crass or inept as to admit to a typo ,
would I :-))

PPS
When did Berwick(pronounce that if you will)-on-Tweed officially cease
to be at war with Russia ?

Answers in a brown paper envelope with a tenner please :-))
/OT

And while he's about it he can have a stab at Wymondham, Milngavie,
Costessey and Stiffkey...

Strachan, Cholmondely, Featherstonehaugh, Wildboarclough, Pontefact,
Loch Avon, ...
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

And while he's about it he can have a stab at Wymondham, Milngavie,
Costessey and Stiffkey...

Strachan, Cholmondely, Featherstonehaugh, Wildboarclough, Pontefact,
Loch Avon, ...
--


Syston

Roud

Llandudno

Leicester (La,ces,ter? La as in garland of flowers)

As long as they are expecting us to fork (gardening item) out about £180 per
year, so that we can watch living tv and ITV amongst other channels.
regards
Cineman
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from martin contains these words:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:54:44 GMT, Pam Moore
wrote:

The Big Dig got a mention on Points of View yesterday afternoon.
( I was only channel-hopping, honest).
Wogan said that the producers said it had been taken off because of
low viewing numbers. (They didn't ask me!)

How long has low viewing numbers been a criteria for the BBC?

How long has criteria been singular?

About the same length of time as the words Forum and Agenda

Steve

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from martin contains these words:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:54:44 GMT, Pam Moore
wrote:

The Big Dig got a mention on Points of View yesterday
afternoon.
( I was only channel-hopping, honest).
Wogan said that the producers said it had been taken off
because
of low viewing numbers. (They didn't ask me!)

How long has low viewing numbers been a criteria for the BBC?

How long has criteria been singular?

About the same length of time as the words Forum and Agenda

cineman wrote:
As long as they are expecting us to fork (gardening item) out about
£180 per year, so that we can watch living tv and ITV amongst
other
channels. regards
Cineman

OT, I know. I've pondered this long and carefully for years and
years. It does seem an absurd method, and in very rare cases an
unjust one, but nobody's ever suggested a better way of funding two
TV channels, four or even five world-class radio networks, the best
website in the world, countless local radio stations, several major
orchestras, a "big band", a major choir or more, huge quantitiies of
material for schools and universities, and commissioning new writing
and music like nobody else on the planet.

I don't watch more than about ten hours of tv a week, but it's nearly
all BBC, and I listen to Radio 4 and 3 constantly: it's incredible
value for the price of a beer or two a week. One trip to the cinema
costs...how much?When people attack the licence fee, they may not
realise they're actually asking for the BBC to be privatised, and we
know what that means -- just look at ITV. I think people should be
saying this, again and again to anybody who'll listen -- I don't
trust the politicians.

--
Mike.

martin wrote:
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:28:24 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
[...on broadcast licence fee...]
OT, I know. I've pondered this long and carefully for years and
years. It does seem an absurd method, and in very rare cases an
unjust one, but nobody's ever suggested a better way of funding
two
TV channels, four or even five world-class radio networks, the
best
website in the world, countless local radio stations, several
major
orchestras, a "big band", a major choir or more, huge quantitiies
of
material for schools and universities, and commissioning new
writing
and music like nobody else on the planet.

From the national budget like the Dutch do.

Yes, that's a possibility. But I fear it would inevitably lead to
political interference, and there's rather too much of that already.
It would also be less fair, as two-earner households would pay twice,
and presumably those without TV would then have to pay -- though I
suppose the present enforcement system could still be used to avoid
that, with yet another section to fill in on the income tax forms.

--
Mike.

martin wrote:
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:23:55 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

martin wrote:
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:28:24 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
[...on broadcast licence fee...]
OT, I know. I've pondered this long and carefully for years and
years. It does seem an absurd method, and in very rare cases an
unjust one, but nobody's ever suggested a better way of funding
[...]

From the national budget like the Dutch do.

Yes, that's a possibility. But I fear it would inevitably lead to
political interference, and there's rather too much of that
already.
It would also be less fair, as two-earner households would pay
twice,
and presumably those without TV would then have to pay -- though I
suppose the present enforcement system could still be used to
avoid
that, with yet another section to fill in on the income tax forms.

Political interference hasn't happened in NL. It has resulted in
not
having to finance those who collect & enforce payment of licenses.
Likewise computerising income tax forms has resulted in a dramatic
cut
in those employed to process the forms.
Licenses are just another form of tax for the majority of the
population.

I have a suspicion that NL pollies may be rather more trustworthy
than British ones; but I could be hopelessly wrong.

I take the point about not having to pay for separate collecting
staff; but I think that would be nearly balanced by having to retain
staff to process and police the exemptions for people who claim not
to have TV -- that's computerised already, but it still needs real
people on the ground*. Unless, of course, we were simply to force
everybody to contribute regardless; and I don't really like that.

But I really don't think the present licence fee is a tax, but a
genuine fee in return for a specific service. The number of people
who don't use BBC services but do use the commercial ones must be
insignificant. And even they probably watch or listen to programmes
made by broadcasters originally trained at the BBC, so it's not
entirely unfair. And, again, isn't some of the infrastructure used by
commercial channels funded from the licence fee?

*A friend of mine doesn't watch TV, and has no aerial; but he does
use a DVD player and a TV set. He had to show a highly sceptical
enforcer that he'd blocked up the aerial socket on his DVD player
with Araldite!

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"martin" wrote .

It's not so simple. Digital TV needs line of site for good reception.
Martin

So don't sit in front of the telly ......... :~)
Jenny