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Old 16-12-2005, 10:37 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Anyone know the rose Mme Alfred Carriere? Other climber suggestions?

I'm thinking this could be ideal for growing over a pergola and training
along over the top of an adjacent fence with a gate in it at the side of the
building where some people have gained access to the garden and tried to
break in. The idea is to have a climbing rose along with other security
measures- since I have the pergola I might as well have a climbing rose on
that and train it where it is needed to make it unpleasant for potential
burglars.

MAC is a colour I like for this situation (v pale pink- I don't want anythng
too conspicuous), apparently has the right qualities as it grows high and
wide enough for two to cover the area in question, and it can put up with
less sun than many roses. For this location and purpose it seems ideal.
However it was descibed in a book as not very thorny. Its the thorns that I'm
planting it for! I would be good to know how thorny or un-thorny it is. If it
has half as many thorns as a "fairly thorny" climbing rose, that would
probably still make it a very uncomfortable experience to come apon it
sudddenly in the dark while you're looking for ways of breaking into people's
houses. I don't need it to be *covered* with thorns, just to have them every
so often. It could be fine, I just don't know.

Suggestions for any other climbers would be great if anyone has any. It needs
to be vigourous, grow about 4m high and 3m wide or more, have thorns, not
mind less than 4 hours sun per day, have some scent (the more the better),
preferably be a repeat flowerer and be a quiet colour- ie no reds or oranges;
white, pale pink etc would be fine. Oh and an easy to grow disease-resistant
plant would be handy too!

Any ideas, please let me know.




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