"chris French" wrote in message
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In message , Alan Holmes
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These can raid the address books of IE and Outlook, and gather addresses
from saved e-mails and newsitems, then, when they are online, the
scumware 'phones home' with information about the computer, and often
any bank details it can find. It also replicates itself (which is why
it's called a virus) and sends itself to everyone in the address book
while the computer is connected to the net.

What is an address book' and why does anyone think they need it?


Where you keep your addresses....

In this context it is where email programs keep the list of email
addresses so that you don't need to type them in everytime The address
book used by Windows/Outlook/OE is vulnerable to this sort of 'attack'

Though other email programs with their own aren't (at least they haven't
been attacked yet anyway)

I've just found a folder which calls itself an Address Book, but it is
empty, so how does the programme decide who will go in the 'address Book'?

Alan


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Chris French

On 19/1/06 16:27, in article , "chris
French" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes

I received another email, with unopened attachment, from a friend who was
working in Cairo.

From him or 'apparently from him'?

Sorry, sloppy of me. Apparently from him. Something wasn't right about the
subject line - not his style - and I had no reason to expect an email from
him as he usually only emails when he's abroad and he's not.

I checked with him and he hadn't been in touch with me
yesterday. He's going to contact his secretary in Cairo and get her to
check if there have been any shenanigans with regard to his computer.

As we've said these emails usually come from another machine that uses
someone elses address they find to make it look like it came from them.

anyway you are on a mac aren't you, so are going to be immune anyway
from all these windows things, even if you were to open one.

I do hope so! I also have Norton running the whole time and it checks for
viruses daily. Yes, I know lots of people don't like it but so far, so
good!

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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On 19/1/06 16:50, in article , "Judith
Lea" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes
I received another email, with unopened attachment, from a friend who was
working in Cairo. I checked with him and he hadn't been in touch with me
yesterday. He's going to contact his secretary in Cairo and get her to
check if there have been any shenanigans with regard to his computer.

Sacha, it sounds as if your address book has been "invaded" and
everyone in it will probably get an email purporting to be from you -
this happened to a colleague of mine recently on her home computer.

I don't think so, Judith, because nobody has emailed me or rung me telling
me of such a disaster. And I've exchanged emails with a couple of urglers as
well as with many others. And as Chris says, with a Mac, this is much more
unlikely. When I had my last PC, that is *exactly* what happened, though.
I received an email from a friend I hadn't heard from for ages and opened it
and bam! He didn't use any kind of virus checker and had been the unwitting
instrument of spreading a virus (worm?) to all his friends in his email
address book.

I have just done a search on my Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition and I
see that I have a virus in quarantine - now quickly removed! I tried to
do a trail through stuff to see where and when it came in but
unfortunately I am not very computer literate so I couldn't find the
source. Fortunately anything that comes in here, (my own personal
computer) is well screened and on my official computer, I am behind an
NHS Firewall.


IMO, there's a lot to be said for having a Mac and this is just one of them!

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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On 19/1/06 17:02, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote:


"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Alan Holmes
writes


These can raid the address books of IE and Outlook, and gather addresses
from saved e-mails and newsitems, then, when they are online, the
scumware 'phones home' with information about the computer, and often
any bank details it can find. It also replicates itself (which is why
it's called a virus) and sends itself to everyone in the address book
while the computer is connected to the net.

What is an address book' and why does anyone think they need it?


Where you keep your addresses....

In this context it is where email programs keep the list of email
addresses so that you don't need to type them in everytime The address
book used by Windows/Outlook/OE is vulnerable to this sort of 'attack'

Though other email programs with their own aren't (at least they haven't
been attacked yet anyway)

I've just found a folder which calls itself an Address Book, but it is
empty, so how does the programme decide who will go in the 'address Book'?

Alan, when you get an email, somewhere on your tool bar there should be an
option to "add sender to address book" in one of the headings there. You
can click on that and that person will be put into your email address book.
You can then click on the address book and decide how you want to format it,
e.g. first name or surname in the alphabetical order list and if you want to
add the sender's snailmail address, tel. no. etc.
I can't remember where that option was on my old PC but on my Mac it's under
'Message' on the tool bar at the top of my screen when I'm in the Mail
program.
The other option is to highlight their email address, copy it and paste it
into your email address book, adding their name at the same time.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 19/1/06 17:02, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote:


"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Alan Holmes
writes


These can raid the address books of IE and Outlook, and gather
addresses
from saved e-mails and newsitems, then, when they are online, the
scumware 'phones home' with information about the computer, and often
any bank details it can find. It also replicates itself (which is why
it's called a virus) and sends itself to everyone in the address book
while the computer is connected to the net.

What is an address book' and why does anyone think they need it?


Where you keep your addresses....

In this context it is where email programs keep the list of email
addresses so that you don't need to type them in everytime The address
book used by Windows/Outlook/OE is vulnerable to this sort of 'attack'

Though other email programs with their own aren't (at least they
haven't
been attacked yet anyway)

I've just found a folder which calls itself an Address Book, but it is
empty, so how does the programme decide who will go in the 'address
Book'?

Alan, when you get an email, somewhere on your tool bar there should be an
option to "add sender to address book" in one of the headings there. You
can click on that and that person will be put into your email address
book.
You can then click on the address book and decide how you want to format
it,
e.g. first name or surname in the alphabetical order list and if you want
to
add the sender's snailmail address, tel. no. etc.
I can't remember where that option was on my old PC but on my Mac it's
under
'Message' on the tool bar at the top of my screen when I'm in the Mail
program.
The other option is to highlight their email address, copy it and paste it
into your email address book, adding their name at the same time.

I find it simpler, and obviously much more secure, to just keep a copy of
the email, in that way I keep the email addresses and it cannot pose a
threat.

Alan


--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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What is an address book' and why does anyone think they need it?

Its the automated computer equivalent of a paper and pen
postal-address book, but with email addresses. Remembering all my
correspondents' email addresses by heart would be even harder than
remembering their postal ones.

You could keep a seperate file with just email addresse in, that would solve
the problem, you could even use the same file to keep postal addresses in as
well, aren't I clever?(:-)

Alan


Janet.

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from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:

These can raid the address books of IE and Outlook, and gather addresses
from saved e-mails and newsitems, then, when they are online, the
scumware 'phones home' with information about the computer, and often
any bank details it can find. It also replicates itself (which is why
it's called a virus) and sends itself to everyone in the address book
while the computer is connected to the net.

What is an address book' and why does anyone think they need it?


A handy cupboard with easy access so that your OE can send people
e-mails without you having to resort to typing them in - and of course,
to feed any passing scumware.

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I've just found a folder which calls itself an Address Book, but it is
empty, so how does the programme decide who will go in the 'address Book'?


You tell it to save the address.

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Although personally I always believe you get what you pay for which is
why I use McAfee for both. :-)

Don't believe what McAfee will tell you and sell you. Look at various
independent reviews for their products...

Now you've ruined the good advice by mentioning that resource-hungry
chocolate fireguard.

Quite. And Norton straddles your system like some voracious behemoth
too. Still, it's a good way of finding out if you're low on
resources!!!! : 7


Use either Norton or McAffee and you will be...

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from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:

I find it simpler, and obviously much more secure, to just keep a copy of
the email, in that way I keep the email addresses and it cannot pose a
threat.


It is just as much a threat - many of these trojans don't just look at
the address book for e-mail addresses, but any news or mail which is
kept in OE.

What else they get up to while in your box depends on what the aim of
the writer was.

It could be looking for any files which have numbers in, and could be
bank details, in which case they e-mail them back to 'base' when you
connect, and e-mail copies ofthemselves to all the addresses they can
find.

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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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"Alan
Holmes" wrote:


"chris French" wrote in message
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In message , Alan Holmes
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I find it simpler, and obviously much more secure, to just keep a copy of
the email, in that way I keep the email addresses and it cannot pose a
threat.

Alan

""Out of the mouths of babes and "Old gits"" :-))))

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from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:

I find it simpler, and obviously much more secure, to just keep a copy of
the email, in that way I keep the email addresses and it cannot pose a
threat.


Make sure you unplug your webcam when you consult it...

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from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:

I find it simpler, and obviously much more secure, to just keep a copy of
the email, in that way I keep the email addresses and it cannot pose a
threat.


Make sure you unplug your webcam when you consult it...

I always keep it disconnected, don't want to frighten the thing!(:-)

Alan


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"Alan Holmes" wrote

You could keep a seperate file with just email addresse in, that would
solve the problem, you could even use the same file to keep postal
addresses in as well, aren't I clever?(:-)

And how would I get that to "Mail Merge" for printing address labels etc
without it becoming another Address Book?

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Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

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"Alan Holmes" wrote

You could keep a seperate file with just email addresse in, that would
solve the problem, you could even use the same file to keep postal
addresses in as well, aren't I clever?(:-)

And how would I get that to "Mail Merge" for printing address labels etc
without it becoming another Address Book?


Scanner and TextBridge.

HTH

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