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Growing apples from cuttings?
I've got round to asking a chap down the road if I can have some
cuttings from his cooker (not gas or eclectic...) and I take them tomorrow. It's a very old tree, and the apples are *VAST* - around the size of a Charles Ross, but the wrong shape for that apple. Also, am taking cuttings from a rootstock tree - so: Anyone tried this? (I haven't a tree I can graft or bud onto) Do they take better from old wood, or last year's growth? -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Growing apples from cuttings?
"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message k... I've got round to asking a chap down the road if I can have some cuttings from his cooker (not gas or eclectic...) and I take them tomorrow. It's a very old tree, and the apples are *VAST* - around the size of a Charles Ross, but the wrong shape for that apple. Also, am taking cuttings from a rootstock tree - so: Anyone tried this? (I haven't a tree I can graft or bud onto) Do they take better from old wood, or last year's growth? -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cuttings are not recommended. If they strike then they will have lost the growth habits of the parent tree and will probably grow on for years without fruiting. Cuttings from rootstocks take more readily and can be grafted, budded or chipped a year later. Bought rootstocks could be budded this summer. Last year's growth will root most readily. Having said the above there is a West Country costard that roots readily from any wood and actually produces aerial roots on lower branches and fruits the next year from large cuttings. I don't find Charles Ross a 'Vast' apple~~ some can be twice the size but non-commercial. Best Wishes Brian. |
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Growing apples from cuttings?
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from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these words: Cuttings are not recommended. If they strike then they will have lost the growth habits of the parent tree and will probably grow on for years without fruiting. Cuttings from rootstocks take more readily and can be grafted, budded or chipped a year later. Bought rootstocks could be budded this summer. Last year's growth will root most readily. Ta. I'll root the lot and graft or bud onto the rootstock cuttings. I want too many to think about buying even bare-rooted rootstock. (Making a hedge out of fruit trees, a cross between cordons and laying.) Having said the above there is a West Country costard that roots readily from any wood and actually produces aerial roots on lower branches and fruits the next year from large cuttings. Hmmm. Want! I don't find Charles Ross a 'Vast' apple~~ some can be twice the size but non-commercial. Well, the two Charles Ross trees we had in the garden when I was an anklebiter had apples which were up to six inches across. These cookers are almost as large and on a very old and neglected tree. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/...en/apples4.jpg http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/...en/apples1.jpg Those are by no means the largest specimens. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Growing apples from cuttings?
Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
The message from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these words: [...] Having said the above there is a West Country costard that roots readily from any wood and actually produces aerial roots on lower branches and fruits the next year from large cuttings. Hmmm. Want! Me too! Brian, don't leave us in suspense. I don't find Charles Ross a 'Vast' apple~~ some can be twice the size but non-commercial. Well, the two Charles Ross trees we had in the garden when I was an anklebiter had apples which were up to six inches across. These cookers are almost as large and on a very old and neglected tree. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/...en/apples4.jpg http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/...en/apples1.jpg Those are by no means the largest specimens. Ugly buggers. Hope they taste good. -- Mike. |
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Growing apples from cuttings?
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Those are by no means the largest specimens. Ugly buggers. Hope they taste good. They do, both as slightly tart eaters, and cookers, where they render rather like Bramleys. The cavities in the core are large and open, making it very easy to remove the fingernaily bits and leave the flesh between them - no waste - just the pips, the stalk, a small pile of hard flakes instead of the core, and if you don't eat it, the skin. My plan (ATM) is to get one bare root rootstock tree and bud and/or graft some on to it, and some other favoured varieties to make a family tree, and with the others, grow the cuttings on and if necessary graft them onto rootstock cuttings, and replace an unkempt Lonicera hedge with fruit trees, in an arrangement somewhere between cordons and layering. I've a Hunza apricot to go in it, and there will be more, I hope. AnnIwanna quince. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Growing apples from cuttings?
Can't say I am a fan of family trees, why, because they are a
compromise of growth habits with regards to the sion. IMHO, far better to graft onto M106 / M111 rootstock and grow as cordons, either angled, doubles or as veticals. If you have a spare rootstock, a good way of propogating is to mound layer, that is cover the rootstock with compost in a mound, and where the shoots are new woody shoots will develop which inturn can be used as propogating material. Have seen this done on an intesive scale. As you are further south than me rusty, I guess you apricots may fair ok. Here they are a semi greehouse plant. What ever - a fruit hedge has to be admired. An excellent choice. Regards Clifford Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorks. on the scounge for graft wood, hoping to graft yet more apple trees. |
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