A shot in the dark here..but given that it seems to be flowering before
the leaves, and the fact that the flowers are a bit like magnolia
stellata, could it be a variety of magnolia?? Maybe an obscure Japanese
variety? Whatever it is, it is very beautiful :-)

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Cat(h) wrote:
Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
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Declan Murphy wrote:
(Apologies for the crosspost)

Would some kind soul identify this flowering tree for me please? It
is
about 45 centimetres high, and I've inherited it from the previous
owner of the garden. The stem is only about 15mm thick at the base,
so
I'm assuming it was planted early last year or the year before.
Thought
it may be dead, but it began flowering about 10 days ago.

http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...ee_is_this.jpg

(image is 186KB)

Regards Declan,
Botanically challenged,
Okazaki, Japan

When I first saw it, I immediately thought of a forsythia - only a
bright pink one instead of yellow. But I googled for pink forsythia,
and while there is such a thing, it doesn't look much like your
plant.
Come to think of it, the only commonality with forsythia is the
bright
flowers on bare stems, the leaves coming only second later in Spring.
Fat lot of good my answer is :-)
Well done, all the same, Declan. It looks like you've stumped a
whole
newsgroup of experts (and don't include me in that).
Cat(h)


Declan can do miracles with pink paint and Sellotape:-)

Hmmm... I hadn't envisaged that possibility... but now that you mention
it...
Speaking of which... has such a cheeky trick ever been played here? A
spaghetti tree for April Fools' day, mayhaps?
Cat(h)

some of the plant descriptions are very hard to follow as it is without
needing any deceit.

You still get it though
Hookeri, Lineaus & Sinkerimensis

A typical description goes something like: sort of greenish leaves,
pointy at one end
and low growing with sort of brownish stems.

Then on further probing about say the flower, you get told, ahhh yes
the flower is 2 metres high and bright blue and yellow and smells like
rotting flesh.

Oh you mean an Arisaema type thing.?

I like trying to guess plant names as it is like a quiz but I have only
managed to get a few right over the past few months. Declan's tree is
eyecatching alright and I have absolutely no idea what it is. They
have lots of nice flowering shrubs and trees there.

Thank God I do not see too many like that. Far too cheerful for me. I am
more of a Funereal Laurel type:-)

echinosum wrote:
Just to clarify Charlie's spelling, that is Prunus persica, ie a peach,
as was proposed earlier. The leaves make it fairly obviously a Prunus.

Right. We're getting there. Persica it is.

Echinosum ... interesting name you've got there. Echinatum means
'prickly'. What is echinosum?! A small mammal. A mixed of both? g

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
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Cat(h) wrote:

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:

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Declan Murphy wrote:

(Apologies for the crosspost)

Would some kind soul identify this flowering tree for me please? It
is
about 45 centimetres high, and I've inherited it from the previous
owner of the garden. The stem is only about 15mm thick at the base,
so
I'm assuming it was planted early last year or the year before.
Thought
it may be dead, but it began flowering about 10 days ago.

http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...ee_is_this.jpg

(image is 186KB)

Regards Declan,
Botanically challenged,
Okazaki, Japan

When I first saw it, I immediately thought of a forsythia - only a
bright pink one instead of yellow. But I googled for pink forsythia,
and while there is such a thing, it doesn't look much like your
plant.
Come to think of it, the only commonality with forsythia is the
bright
flowers on bare stems, the leaves coming only second later in Spring.
Fat lot of good my answer is :-)
Well done, all the same, Declan. It looks like you've stumped a
whole
newsgroup of experts (and don't include me in that).
Cat(h)


Declan can do miracles with pink paint and Sellotape:-)

Hmmm... I hadn't envisaged that possibility... but now that you mention
it...
Speaking of which... has such a cheeky trick ever been played here? A
spaghetti tree for April Fools' day, mayhaps?
Cat(h)

some of the plant descriptions are very hard to follow as it is without
needing any deceit.


You still get it though
Hookeri, Lineaus & Sinkerimensis


A typical description goes something like: sort of greenish leaves,
pointy at one end
and low growing with sort of brownish stems.

Then on further probing about say the flower, you get told, ahhh yes
the flower is 2 metres high and bright blue and yellow and smells like
rotting flesh.


Oh you mean an Arisaema type thing.?


I like trying to guess plant names as it is like a quiz but I have only
managed to get a few right over the past few months. Declan's tree is
eyecatching alright and I have absolutely no idea what it is. They
have lots of nice flowering shrubs and trees there.


Thank God I do not see too many like that. Far too cheerful for me. I am
more of a Funereal Laurel type:-)

Gotta remember this thread the next time the kind and number of lurkers
around here comes up.

Dan

--
"Not only is this incomprehensible, but the ink is ugly and the paper
is from the wrong kind of tree."
-- Professor W.

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
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"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
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Declan Murphy wrote:

or "rear of petals", if that were more useful.


6 new photos including front & read of petals, and what I can get of
the leaves.

http://www.declan.tv/gardening_misad...e_is_this.html

Any ideas?

Am pretty sure its Prunes Persia 'Prince Charming' small upright double
red
form

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Glad you said that - we now know for sure it is not a clematis:-)



Is Yorkshire so large that you need to distinguish the west from the
other bit(s)?

In article ,
echinosum writes:
|
| Charlie PridhamAm pretty sure its Prunes Persia 'Prince Charming' small upright double red
| form
|
| Just to clarify Charlie's spelling, that is Prunus persica, ie a peach,
| as was proposed earlier. The leaves make it fairly obviously a Prunus.

Well, if you can identify a Prunus from a low-resolution picture of
some unfolding leaves, I am impressed.

The pithy stems and flowers look most un-Prunus-like.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
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CL wrote:
La Puce wrote:
Charlie Pridham wrote:

Am pretty sure its Prunes Persia 'Prince Charming' small upright
double red
form

Prunes?! Or Prunus ....? Persia 'Prince Charming' is a dianthus.
Persica 'Prince Charming' you mean? I'm confused ...

I'm trying to imagine this conversation at the local ten minutes before
closing ...

CL

You mean as a argument, or as a Guinness, a Bushmills, 2 Tequilas, and
a Prunes Persia Prince Charming small upright double red for the lady
please.... ?

ok ok prunus, :~~~)

Prunus persica - aka peach tree but double red form

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
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Cat(h) wrote:

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
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Declan Murphy wrote:

(Apologies for the crosspost)

Would some kind soul identify this flowering tree for me
please? It is
about 45 centimetres high, and I've inherited it from the
previous owner of the garden. The stem is only about 15mm thick
at the base, so
I'm assuming it was planted early last year or the year before.
Thought
it may be dead, but it began flowering about 10 days ago.

http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...ee_is_this.jpg

(image is 186KB)

Regards Declan,
Botanically challenged,
Okazaki, Japan

When I first saw it, I immediately thought of a forsythia - only
a bright pink one instead of yellow. But I googled for pink
forsythia, and while there is such a thing, it doesn't look much
like your plant.
Come to think of it, the only commonality with forsythia is the
bright
flowers on bare stems, the leaves coming only second later in
Spring. Fat lot of good my answer is :-)
Well done, all the same, Declan. It looks like you've stumped a
whole
newsgroup of experts (and don't include me in that).
Cat(h)


Declan can do miracles with pink paint and Sellotape:-)

Hmmm... I hadn't envisaged that possibility... but now that you
mention it...
Speaking of which... has such a cheeky trick ever been played
here? A spaghetti tree for April Fools' day, mayhaps?
Cat(h)

some of the plant descriptions are very hard to follow as it is
without needing any deceit.


You still get it though
Hookeri, Lineaus & Sinkerimensis


A typical description goes something like: sort of greenish leaves,
pointy at one end
and low growing with sort of brownish stems.

Then on further probing about say the flower, you get told, ahhh yes
the flower is 2 metres high and bright blue and yellow and smells
like rotting flesh.


Oh you mean an Arisaema type thing.?


I like trying to guess plant names as it is like a quiz but I have
only managed to get a few right over the past few months. Declan's
tree is eyecatching alright and I have absolutely no idea what it
is. They have lots of nice flowering shrubs and trees there.


Thank God I do not see too many like that. Far too cheerful for me.
I am more of a Funereal Laurel type:-)

Gotta remember this thread the next time the kind and number of
lurkers around here comes up.

Dan

Hi all

Stumbled on this thread at the beginning so mailed a couple of landscape
architects I know

Here's the reply - sorry if it's been covered in the thread already I don't
have the time to read through it I'm afraid so I'm just dumping it here in
the hope it might give someone a clue

"Fran and Tim think it is either a variety of Magnolia or Prunus. It looks
a
bit bigger than 45cm. Not so easy to tell without any leaves. That's their
excuse :-)"

Not much to go on I'll admit but that was my best shot at helping :-)

Gotta go so, Cheers

Tim

A form of Prunus persica almost certainly. The lenticels on bark of
the oldest stems suggest P. persica and flowering stem is also very
typical, even though the shape of the petals is not. The high def.
image of the emergent leaves confirms it is most likely to be a peach.
As to variety, I've never been a great fan of these and have only grown
a few in the distant past - all of which were paler and less double.

Charlie Pridham wrote:
snip
ok ok prunus, :~~~)

Prunus persica - aka peach tree but double red form

Ahh, that seems to work better in google. Thank you very much Charlie.
Anything else needed to confirm it? Better photos of the leaves or
something? Unfortunately the plants I know best are those producing
widgets.

In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes:
|
| If we get to see a face on view of the flowers it should be easy to
| distinguish eliminate at least one of Magnolia and Prunus - the
| androecia and gynoecia are markedly different. (I don't think it's a
| Magnolia, but I haven't had a clear enough view to be sure.)

The bracts (?) that show in the rear view don't look like anything
I have ever seen on one of the Rosaceae, and the cut stems look very
much as if they have some pith.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
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Charlie Pridham wrote:
snip
ok ok prunus, :~~~)

Prunus persica - aka peach tree but double red form

Ahh, that seems to work better in google. Thank you very much Charlie.
Anything else needed to confirm it? Better photos of the leaves or
something? Unfortunately the plants I know best are those producing
widgets.

There is not much doubt in my mind, I used to see hundreds of them while in
Japan, there they are very popular as the climate suits them. The Japanese
are very fond of trees with spring blossom. Here in the uk they are a waste
of garden space and without drenching in fungicide almost daily never amount
to much. (ok under glass)
Sorry about the miss spell :~) it wasn't me it was the spell check honest!
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Declan Murphy wrote:
Anything else needed to confirm it? Better photos of the leaves or
something? Unfortunately the plants I know best are those producing
widgets.

Trying to get better pictures of the leaves and petals. Got the tape
measure out and 4 new photos.
http://www.declan.tv/gardening_misad...e_is_this.html
Warm dry & windy this afternoon. The petals are wilting but shoots
coming out everywhere. The diameter of the "better" flowers are
3.5-4.0cm. It was difficult to take the pictures in the wind, really
need a 3rd hand. Is there anything in particular I should be looking
for?

Regards Declan,
Okazaki, Japan

Good guess. I like spiky plants and hedgehogs. I originally devised the name for a different website, where the obvious variants were already occupied.

echinosum wrote:
La Puce Wrote:
Echinosum ... interesting name you've got there. Echinatum means
'prickly'. What is echinosum?! A small mammal. A mixed of both? g
Good guess. I like spiky plants and hedgehogs. I originally devised
the name for a different website, where the obvious variants were
already occupied.

Goodness me - and it was a long shot! But I have come to do a similar
thing with a word I liked but which was already taken. I manipulated it
a bit and I'm quite happy with it since it gave me just what I wanted
originally. I can't tell you what it is yet because it's a name I am
going to use very soon professionaly and I don't want it to be taken
looks around and whispers you never know who listens to us ;o)