david taylor wrote:
Pick a pod from uncertain peas and chew it. If it masticates down it is
mangetout, if it feels like cardboard or fibre glass, it is a standard pea.

If it takes your breath away, turns you in a funny yellowish kind of
shade and gives you a severe blinding headache, it's a sweet pea )

shazzbat wrote:
"Welsh Witch" wrote in message
news
Here I am standing in the vegetable garden. I have lost tons of labels and
I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is the
peas.
I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
"early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to eat
the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of the
other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew conventional
veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
*************************

I know it's a bit late now for this year, but for future reference, you have
the ideal tool to avoid this happening again. It's called a computer. I have
made an excel document, and as a page of it has approximately the same
proportions as my allotment, I use the rows and cells to record what I plant
and sow where, print it out, take it to the allotment, write in what I
add/remove, and update it when I get home. Easy.

You'd think... I was about to ask a similar question to that asked by
Welsh Witch - I sowed two types of peas (poddable and sugar snap) in a
mini coldframe, in rows, but didn't keep the labels either. I then
transplanted them at the foot of three wigwams, where they are
thriving, but totally undistinguishable. the poddable peas have much
tougher pods, so I can manage to take a guess, but just about... I am
not sure whether I am currently eating immature poddables, or fully
ripe sugar snaps...
It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

Cat(h)

It was written:

I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
"early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
which are real peas.

I was about to ask a similar question to that asked by
Welsh Witch - I sowed two types of peas (poddable and sugar snap) in a
mini coldframe, in rows, but didn't keep the labels either.

Funnily enough, I was also just about to ask a similar question! I put a
couple of seeds in a hanging basket early this year, and I vaguely recall
that they were mangetout seeds, but I didn't keep a label or make a note.
When it came to eating the pods I got very nervous in case they were sweet
peas and I poisoned everyone in my family ! I've just uprooted the plant
and put it on my compost heap; better to be safe than sorry. Next year I
won't rely on my memory.

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
oups.com...


It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

Without us there wouldn't be a need for experts :-)

Mary

Cat(h)

La Puce wrote:
Cat(h) wrote:
It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

A couple of month ago, I was on my lotty when I started to get a
serious headache, my left eye felt it was throbbing, I became very sick
but I carried on. Eventually I couldn't stand it anymore and I texted
my friend at the other end of the lotty telling her to quickly ring my
husband to pick me up (I had came on my bike) because I couldn't see
and I started to get very feverish. When I arrived at her lotty, all I
could do was lie down, face down on the earth, my head in my arms,
darkness felt better. We worked out that I got poisonned. I had brought
my lunch and had eaten raddishes, sandwiches, fruits around my lotty
without washing my hands. After a couple of hours in bed in the dark I
felt better, but for days afterwards I felt the brusing behind my eye.

Beleive me, I still get worried when I arrive at the lotty as I still
don't know what it was which got me so sick. I'd rather forget what I
plant than experiencing that )

Ouch! That sounds very nasty! I hope you made a full recovery! It is
a lesson, too, to wash hands and produce after harvesting in the
garden, before consuming them...
I'm glad that I didn't plant sweet peas this year, so my pea-munching
worries are only little ones.

Cat(h) (who knew gardeners lived as dangerously as stuntmen?)

Jane writes
It was written:

I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
"early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
which are real peas.

I was about to ask a similar question to that asked by
Welsh Witch - I sowed two types of peas (poddable and sugar snap) in a
mini coldframe, in rows, but didn't keep the labels either.

Funnily enough, I was also just about to ask a similar question! I put a
couple of seeds in a hanging basket early this year, and I vaguely recall
that they were mangetout seeds, but I didn't keep a label or make a note.
When it came to eating the pods I got very nervous in case they were sweet
peas and I poisoned everyone in my family ! I've just uprooted the plant
and put it on my compost heap; better to be safe than sorry. Next year I
won't rely on my memory.

Sweet pea pods are much smaller, and greyer, and not so shiny. Let a pod
or two develop next time you grow sweet peas, and then you'll be
confident about the difference.



--
Kay

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message .com
from "Cat(h)" contains these words:

It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

It's an essential part of gardening to think "I'll remember what
that's called". But you don't. Next someone asks what it is you reply
"I've forgotten, but I'll look it up and make a label". So you look it
up, but don't make a label, because you forgot where the label marker
went, and soon you forget the name again. The next time you go to look
it up you can't remember where the catalogue/seed order list went. When
you propagate the plant, you stick a label in the pot which says " grey
leafed plant". When you find you have propagated several unrelated grey
leafed things, you refine the nomenclature to "grey leafed thing from
Bill" and "grey leafed thing near the back gate".

Janet.

Hmmm. This sounds waaaay too organised for me.

Cat(h)

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
oups.com...

shazzbat wrote:
"Welsh Witch" wrote in message
news
Here I am standing in the vegetable garden. I have lost tons of labels
and
I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is
the
peas.
I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think
called
"early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to
eat
the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of
the
other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew
conventional
veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
*************************

I know it's a bit late now for this year, but for future reference, you
have
the ideal tool to avoid this happening again. It's called a computer. I
have
made an excel document, and as a page of it has approximately the same
proportions as my allotment, I use the rows and cells to record what I
plant
and sow where, print it out, take it to the allotment, write in what I
add/remove, and update it when I get home. Easy.

You'd think... I was about to ask a similar question to that asked by
Welsh Witch - I sowed two types of peas (poddable and sugar snap) in a
mini coldframe, in rows, but didn't keep the labels either. I then
transplanted them at the foot of three wigwams, where they are
thriving, but totally undistinguishable. the poddable peas have much
tougher pods, so I can manage to take a guess, but just about... I am
not sure whether I am currently eating immature poddables, or fully
ripe sugar snaps...
It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

I would think that most of us do something silly at times, there are just a
few who would not admit it though!

Ala


Cat(h)

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
ups.com...

La Puce wrote:
Cat(h) wrote:
It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

A couple of month ago, I was on my lotty when I started to get a
serious headache, my left eye felt it was throbbing, I became very sick
but I carried on. Eventually I couldn't stand it anymore and I texted
my friend at the other end of the lotty telling her to quickly ring my
husband to pick me up (I had came on my bike) because I couldn't see
and I started to get very feverish. When I arrived at her lotty, all I
could do was lie down, face down on the earth, my head in my arms,
darkness felt better. We worked out that I got poisonned. I had brought
my lunch and had eaten raddishes, sandwiches, fruits around my lotty
without washing my hands. After a couple of hours in bed in the dark I
felt better, but for days afterwards I felt the brusing behind my eye.

Beleive me, I still get worried when I arrive at the lotty as I still
don't know what it was which got me so sick. I'd rather forget what I
plant than experiencing that )

Ouch! That sounds very nasty! I hope you made a full recovery! It is
a lesson, too, to wash hands and produce after harvesting in the
garden, before consuming them...

That is something I wouldn't have thought about, I just pick the peas and
eat them there and then, same with strawberries and raspberries, sometimes
with small carrots as well.

Alan

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
ups.com...

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message .com
from "Cat(h)" contains these words:

It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

It's an essential part of gardening to think "I'll remember what
that's called". But you don't. Next someone asks what it is you reply
"I've forgotten, but I'll look it up and make a label". So you look it
up, but don't make a label, because you forgot where the label marker
went, and soon you forget the name again. The next time you go to look
it up you can't remember where the catalogue/seed order list went. When
you propagate the plant, you stick a label in the pot which says " grey
leafed plant". When you find you have propagated several unrelated grey
leafed things, you refine the nomenclature to "grey leafed thing from
Bill" and "grey leafed thing near the back gate".

Janet.

Hmmm. This sounds waaaay too organised for me.

And me, I would look at it and say, that looks familiar, I wonder where that
came from?

Alan


Cat(h)

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
ups.com...

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message .com
from "Cat(h)" contains these words:

It does my heart good that I am not the only one to do silly things in
the garden ;-)

It's an essential part of gardening to think "I'll remember what
that's called". But you don't. Next someone asks what it is you reply
"I've forgotten, but I'll look it up and make a label". So you look it
up, but don't make a label, because you forgot where the label marker
went, and soon you forget the name again. The next time you go to look
it up you can't remember where the catalogue/seed order list went. When
you propagate the plant, you stick a label in the pot which says " grey
leafed plant". When you find you have propagated several unrelated grey
leafed things, you refine the nomenclature to "grey leafed thing from
Bill" and "grey leafed thing near the back gate".

Janet.

Hmmm. This sounds waaaay too organised for me.

And me, I would look at it and say, that looks familiar, I wonder where
that came from?


The most common plant in our garden is "Something one or both of us likes,
but we're not sure what it is"

Steve