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Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.



That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.

One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

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Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.



That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.

One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

Apart from those who were sent down, presumably.


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Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.


That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.

One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

But not from Birmingham. :-)

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On 15/10/06 23:17, in article
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Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.



That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.

One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

And quite often, one was 'sent down' again.
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Oh No wrote:
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Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.


That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.

One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

But not from Birmingham. :-)


I understand that one went *up* to Cambridge from just about
everywhere except Oxford.

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One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

Apart from those who were sent down, presumably.


Indeed, one had to go up before one could be sent down. And nor was it
necessary to specify, since up implied Oxford or Cambridge on its own.
As the rev Spooner was reported to have said (apocryphally no doubt)

"You have hissed all my mystery lectures. You have tasted two worms.
Pack up your rags and bugs, and leave immediately by the town drain!"

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Just down the road from you - Barendrecht.

given she is 6m below sea level shouldn't that be 'up the road'
;-))
Jim Webster

'Down' in this instance means South of me :~))
Jenny


"Up" North "Down" South. A return journey 'home' for us is always
quicker
because it is 'downhill'.

I have to attend a Funeral "Up North" in Birmingham tomorrow. It will
take
longer to get there and use more petrol as it is "Up"

;-))

Mike


Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.



That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.



I wonder if that is from a London vantage point, because round here no one
would think of saying they were going up to London.
From the SW I think they do


As Angus said, it was a past convention. I suspect it arose during the
golden age of rail travel, when the 'up' line was the line which led to the
main terminus, regardless of either gradient or comparative latitude. On any
English main line connecting to London, therefore, one travelled 'up' to
London. Nowadays, the convention seems to have fallen into disuse.

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One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

Apart from those who were sent down, presumably.


Indeed, one had to go up before one could be sent down. And nor was it
necessary to specify, since up implied Oxford or Cambridge on its own.
As the rev Spooner was reported to have said (apocryphally no doubt)

"You have hissed all my mystery lectures. You have tasted two worms.
Pack up your rags and bugs, and leave immediately by the town drain!"

Ah! the great man, whose greatest acomplishment was to show that we are all
allowed to be very bad at something.


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One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

Apart from those who were sent down, presumably.


Indeed, one had to go up before one could be sent down. And nor was it
necessary to specify, since up implied Oxford or Cambridge on its own.
As the rev Spooner was reported to have said (apocryphally no doubt)

"You have hissed all my mystery lectures. You have tasted two worms.
Pack up your rags and bugs, and leave immediately by the town drain!"


I wonder what the Rev would have made of the name of Brad Pitt's child by
Angelina Jolie, Shiloh Pitt?

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Just down the road from you - Barendrecht.

given she is 6m below sea level shouldn't that be 'up the road'
;-))
Jim Webster

'Down' in this instance means South of me :~))
Jenny


"Up" North "Down" South. A return journey 'home' for us is always
quicker
because it is 'downhill'.

I have to attend a Funeral "Up North" in Birmingham tomorrow. It will
take
longer to get there and use more petrol as it is "Up"

;-))

Mike


Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.



That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the starting point.



I wonder if that is from a London vantage point, because round here no
one
would think of saying they were going up to London.
From the SW I think they do


As Angus said, it was a past convention. I suspect it arose during the
golden age of rail travel, when the 'up' line was the line which led to
the
main terminus, regardless of either gradient or comparative latitude. On
any
English main line connecting to London, therefore, one travelled 'up' to
London. Nowadays, the convention seems to have fallen into disuse.


On the line that runs around the Cumbrian coast the traditional designation
on the platform which was southbound was "Preston and Beyond"

Where Beyond covered pretty well all eventualities ;-))

Jim Webster

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One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

Apart from those who were sent down, presumably.


Indeed, one had to go up before one could be sent down. And nor was it
necessary to specify, since up implied Oxford or Cambridge on its own.
As the rev Spooner was reported to have said (apocryphally no doubt)

"You have hissed all my mystery lectures. You have tasted two worms.
Pack up your rags and bugs, and leave immediately by the town drain!"


I wonder what the Rev would have made of the name of Brad Pitt's child by
Angelina Jolie, Shiloh Pitt?


I wonder if he ever referred to anyone as a shining wit?

Steve

Jim Webster wrote:

On the line that runs around the Cumbrian coast the traditional designation
on the platform which was southbound was "Preston and Beyond"

Where Beyond covered pretty well all eventualities ;-))

That sounds a very wise precaution. :-)

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One went up to Cambridge, even from London.

Apart from those who were sent down, presumably.


Indeed, one had to go up before one could be sent down. And nor was it
necessary to specify, since up implied Oxford or Cambridge on its own.
As the rev Spooner was reported to have said (apocryphally no doubt)

"You have hissed all my mystery lectures. You have tasted two worms.
Pack up your rags and bugs, and leave immediately by the town drain!"


I wonder what the Rev would have made of the name of Brad Pitt's child
by
Angelina Jolie, Shiloh Pitt?


I wonder if he ever referred to anyone as a shining wit?


LOL! Frequently, under his breath, I'd wager :-)

Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or
Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.

That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the
starting point.

I wonder if that is from a London vantage point, because round
here no one would think of saying they were going up to
London.
From the SW I think they do

I gather it was from a railway operations point. They defined
the 'up' line as the one going towards London and the 'down'
line as the one going away from London. So yes, it's a very
London-centric view of the world.

Of course it breaks down completely when you have to discuss
journeys which don't include London, especially between two
places which are closer to one another that either is to London,
like Edinburgh and Glasgow or York and Manchester.

As far as I'm concerned I go 'down' to anywhere south, 'up' to
anywhere north, and 'over' to somewhere which is neither north
nor south.

Anne

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:11:56 +0100, "Anne Burgess"
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Convention in the past was always "up" to the larger city or
Capital.
Although "north" does seem to be more up than south.

That's right, one went 'up to London' regardless of the
starting point.

I wonder if that is from a London vantage point, because round
here no one would think of saying they were going up to
London.
From the SW I think they do

I gather it was from a railway operations point. They defined
the 'up' line as the one going towards London and the 'down'
line as the one going away from London. So yes, it's a very
London-centric view of the world.

Of course it breaks down completely when you have to discuss
journeys which don't include London, especially between two
places which are closer to one another that either is to London,
like Edinburgh and Glasgow or York and Manchester.

As far as I'm concerned I go 'down' to anywhere south, 'up' to
anywhere north, and 'over' to somewhere which is neither north
nor south.

Anne


Probably what most say now. However, I don't seen the need to use the
words up, down or over. Why not just say "I'm going to London"?


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All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
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