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18-10-2006, 09:48 AM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
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I laid land drains in my garden this Summer and despite packing the topsoil down on top of the stone now find the soil has sunk slightly. Can I just sprinkle topsoil on top of the new grass NOW that has grown (from seed) and expect it to come through next year? What methods should I use to encourage early growth for next year. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Many Thanks Rich. |
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18-10-2006, 10:05 AM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
"Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I laid land drains in my garden this Summer and despite packing the topsoil down on top of the stone now find the soil has sunk slightly. Can I just sprinkle topsoil on top of the new grass NOW that has grown (from seed) and expect it to come through next year? [...] Better to cut the turf, roll it back and fill underneath it. This normally means making H shaped cuts, but in your case it might be an HHHHHHHHH shaped cut if you see what I mean. Tim w |
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18-10-2006, 10:24 AM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Tim W wrote: "Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I laid land drains in my garden this Summer and despite packing the topsoil down on top of the stone now find the soil has sunk slightly. Can I just sprinkle topsoil on top of the new grass NOW that has grown (from seed) and expect it to come through next year? [...] Better to cut the turf, roll it back and fill underneath it. This normally means making H shaped cuts, but in your case it might be an HHHHHHHHH shaped cut if you see what I mean. Tim w Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH AND SO ON !!! Many thanks. Rick |
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18-10-2006, 11:07 AM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. |
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18-10-2006, 12:14 PM
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18-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Rick wrote: Hi, I laid land drains in my garden this Summer and despite packing the topsoil down on top of the stone now find the soil has sunk slightly. Can I just sprinkle topsoil on top of the new grass NOW that has grown (from seed) and expect it to come through next year? How badly sunk is it? You can usually add a 1" top dressing of sharp sand & loam selectively to hide low spots and get away with it. I'm doing that on my lawn now. You might get away with a 2" top dressing, but it depends how long the grass is. What methods should I use to encourage early growth for next year. The other way involves turf cutting, filling underneath and much stamping & cursing. Even if it takes a couple of years to get a perfect flat lawn I prefer selective top dressing. YMMV Regards, Martin Brown |
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18-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
"Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier Thanks How deep is it? I successfully filled in a 1 inch dip in my lawn by brushing in a little sharp sand after each mowing. The grass soon rooted into it and as a bonus it is now better drained and doesn't grow moss. |
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18-10-2006, 01:33 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. -- Mike. |
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18-10-2006, 02:06 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Mike Lyle wrote: Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. The sand sound a great idea. The dip is only about an inch. Can I mowe it now and lay some sand before the winter sets in ? Many Thanks. Rick -- Mike. |
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18-10-2006, 02:10 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
On 18 Oct 2006 06:06:37 -0700, Rick wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote: Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. The sand sound a great idea. The dip is only about an inch. Can I mowe it now and lay some sand before the winter sets in ? Many Thanks. Rick -- Mike. I wouldn't use sand on its own as it tends to get a film of algae and clog up. Sandy loam should be better. -- Jim S Tyneside UK http://www.jimscott.co.uk |
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18-10-2006, 02:56 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Jim S wrote: On 18 Oct 2006 06:06:37 -0700, Rick wrote: Mike Lyle wrote: Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. The sand sound a great idea. The dip is only about an inch. Can I mowe it now and lay some sand before the winter sets in ? Many Thanks. Rick -- Mike. I wouldn't use sand on its own as it tends to get a film of algae and clog up. Sandy loam should be better. Agreed. Unless it's very long, I don't think I'd cut it before top-dressing, though: I think it will recover quicker if it's got its leaves in the light. -- Mike. |
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18-10-2006, 05:09 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Mike Lyle wrote: Agreed. Unless it's very long, I don't think I'd cut it before top-dressing, though: I think it will recover quicker if it's got its leaves in the light. -- Mike. I mentioned mowing it but the thinking there was that the soil on top would completely cover the old grass and the OP would sow new seeds. Otherwise, I'd gradually add something over a period of time and try to give the grass some time to grow through. |
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18-10-2006, 07:52 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
"Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Mike Lyle wrote: Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. The sand sound a great idea. The dip is only about an inch. Can I mowe it now and lay some sand before the winter sets in ? We did the dips in our lawn like this but it took 2 years because the first helping of sandy loam which was what we used sank a bit. Probably bound to happen. Gill |
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18-10-2006, 11:52 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
Gill Matthews wrote: "Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Mike Lyle wrote: Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. The sand sound a great idea. The dip is only about an inch. Can I mowe it now and lay some sand before the winter sets in ? We did the dips in our lawn like this but it took 2 years because the first helping of sandy loam which was what we used sank a bit. Probably bound to happen. Gill Thanks for all your advice, I now know what my options are. Its nice to know there is someone out there who can help ! In my next posting I need to ask about bulbs but thats another story ! Regards. Rick. |
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19-10-2006, 05:02 PM
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HELP- Lawn Sunk After Laying Land Drains
whatever u do dont use sharp sand its bad for the soil profile use a sandy loam "Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Gill Matthews wrote: "Rick" wrote in message ups.com... Mike Lyle wrote: Rick wrote: wrote: Rick wrote: Looks like Im going to be busy as it will be more like :- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH [...] Or just mow it really short, fill over it and put more seed down. Sounds easier If it isn't urgent, you can top-dress half an inch thick with good, preferably rather sandy, soil every year till it's level. If it grows really well and you're in a mild area, you might even top-dress twice a year. The sand sound a great idea. The dip is only about an inch. Can I mowe it now and lay some sand before the winter sets in ? We did the dips in our lawn like this but it took 2 years because the first helping of sandy loam which was what we used sank a bit. Probably bound to happen. Gill Thanks for all your advice, I now know what my options are. Its nice to know there is someone out there who can help ! In my next posting I need to ask about bulbs but thats another story ! Regards. Rick. |
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