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Right! The bunker is built
All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start
the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? |
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6 wrote: All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Do you mean compost production? Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? Do you have holes at the bottom or side of the containers? Why not add grass cuttings? Anything goes to compost, in equal proportion that is. |
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"6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? I'm assuming you mean to use the 'bunker for making compost? If so - leaves, grass cuttings, soft pruning material, vegetable household waste can all go in. So long as you keep thing in proportion. Grass is OK as long as it's not too much in one go,because that will go all soggy and horrible. Loads of info he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compost Jenny |
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Right! The bunker is built
"6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? as others say add grass clippings (as much as you want) in ration to brown material (leaves, mulched prunings, paper, cardboard, straw etc). Grass is great and brings in nitrogen. One tip, no rose cuttings unless they are well mulched. The *******s last a long time and get revenge when you dig the compost out. Either chop them superfine or as I do now dry them and use as kindling. rob |
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George.com writes
"6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? as others say add grass clippings (as much as you want) in ration to brown material (leaves, mulched prunings, paper, cardboard, straw etc). Grass is great and brings in nitrogen. One tip, no rose cuttings unless they are well mulched. The *******s last a long time and get revenge when you dig the compost out. Either chop them superfine or as I do now dry them and use as kindling. Nothing with spines is a good idea. Brambles, cacti are equally nasty a year later. Pruning can go in, if you don't overdo it, if you chop into 3 inch lengths - they won't be completely rotted when you use the compost, but that doesn't matter. The chopping is for convenience when you load your barrow - you can't easily get spades full of compost if you have half buried two foot long branches in there. Wine corks don't rot in any reasonable timescale (otherwise we wouldn't use them to cork wine bottles), nor do avocado stones, nor do those irritating transparent windows from envelopes, or parcel tape from the otherwise highly rottable cardboard boxes. I keep a bin bag next to the heap to discard all the things that have found their way in there and haven't rotted (why on earth did one of my children imagine a plastic toothpaste tube would compost?) -- Kay |
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K wrote: George.com writes "6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? as others say add grass clippings (as much as you want) in ration to brown material (leaves, mulched prunings, paper, cardboard, straw etc). Grass is great and brings in nitrogen. One tip, no rose cuttings unless they are well mulched. The *******s last a long time and get revenge when you dig the compost out. Either chop them superfine or as I do now dry them and use as kindling. Nothing with spines is a good idea. Brambles, cacti are equally nasty a year later. Pruning can go in, if you don't overdo it, if you chop into 3 inch lengths - they won't be completely rotted when you use the compost, but that doesn't matter. The chopping is for convenience when you load your barrow - you can't easily get spades full of compost if you have half buried two foot long branches in there. Wine corks don't rot in any reasonable timescale (otherwise we wouldn't use them to cork wine bottles), nor do avocado stones, nor do those irritating transparent windows from envelopes, or parcel tape from the otherwise highly rottable cardboard boxes. I keep a bin bag next to the heap to discard all the things that have found their way in there and haven't rotted (why on earth did one of my children imagine a plastic toothpaste tube would compost?) Things do stray of their own volition. When turning some friends' not very successful plastic bin full, I found various plastic scraps and a wineglass. And in a heap of my own, baler twine, a long-lost potato peeler, and some electric wire. Interesting to see the stuff Monty Don was putting on the asparagus this week: very twiggy, it seemed to me. But I suspect it doesn't really matter much. It'll be interesting to watch the effect of long-term composting on the concrete: the sides will be OK, but I had a dung-heap on a concrete base, and after a few years the concrete had been softened by the acids. If the OP wants quick results, I think compost in an old coal bunker will probably need to be turned more often than in a heap to keep it aerated. I've never been fussy, but I'm sure quickly-made hot compost is much better than slow and cool. -- Mike. |
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"George.com" wrote in message ... "6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? as others say add grass clippings (as much as you want) in ration to brown material (leaves, mulched prunings, paper, cardboard, straw etc). Grass is great and brings in nitrogen. One tip, no rose cuttings unless they are well mulched. The *******s last a long time and get revenge when you dig the compost out. Either chop them superfine or as I do now dry them and use as kindling. We mix our confidential document shreddings in with the grass clippings peelings etc and it does much to lighten and improve the texture of the compost. It would also need a failrly determined identity theif to recover the info. Gill M |
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Mike Lyle writes
If the OP wants quick results, I think compost in an old coal bunker will probably need to be turned more often than in a heap to keep it aerated. I've never been fussy, but I'm sure quickly-made hot compost is much better than slow and cool. Better in what way? Texture? Nutrient level? -- Kay |
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Gill Matthews writes
"George.com" wrote in message ... "6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? as others say add grass clippings (as much as you want) in ration to brown material (leaves, mulched prunings, paper, cardboard, straw etc). Grass is great and brings in nitrogen. One tip, no rose cuttings unless they are well mulched. The *******s last a long time and get revenge when you dig the compost out. Either chop them superfine or as I do now dry them and use as kindling. We mix our confidential document shreddings in with the grass clippings peelings etc and it does much to lighten and improve the texture of the compost. It would also need a failrly determined identity theif to recover the info. Especially if you pre soak it with a good quantity of recycled-wine accelerator ;-) -- Kay |
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"K" wrote in message ... Gill Matthews writes "George.com" wrote in message ... "6" .@. wrote in message ... All I need to do now is add plenty of organic material and cuttings to start the ball rolling on the manure production front for next years planting. Anyone any tips, apart from not adding grass cuttings, as to the best layering or whatever in a 1m cube old coal bunker? as others say add grass clippings (as much as you want) in ration to brown material (leaves, mulched prunings, paper, cardboard, straw etc). Grass is great and brings in nitrogen. One tip, no rose cuttings unless they are well mulched. The *******s last a long time and get revenge when you dig the compost out. Either chop them superfine or as I do now dry them and use as kindling. We mix our confidential document shreddings in with the grass clippings peelings etc and it does much to lighten and improve the texture of the compost. It would also need a failrly determined identity theif to recover the info. Especially if you pre soak it with a good quantity of recycled-wine accelerator ;-) Some good tips there people, although I would use the recycled beer additive rather than wine.....Being a bloke etc ;-) |
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6 wrote: Some good tips there people, although I would use the recycled beer additive rather than wine.....Being a bloke etc ;-) That's my kids job ... and Dr Pepper and Ribena seems to do just as well ;o) |
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K wrote: Mike Lyle writes If the OP wants quick results, I think compost in an old coal bunker will probably need to be turned more often than in a heap to keep it aerated. I've never been fussy, but I'm sure quickly-made hot compost is much better than slow and cool. Better in what way? Texture? Nutrient level? I was thinking of nutrients. The kind of couldn't-care-less heap I've usually made gets an awful lot of rain passing through, which must take away much of the soluble stuff; but it's a fine soil conditioner. -- Mike. |
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Right! The bunker is built
Mike Lyle writes
K wrote: Mike Lyle writes If the OP wants quick results, I think compost in an old coal bunker will probably need to be turned more often than in a heap to keep it aerated. I've never been fussy, but I'm sure quickly-made hot compost is much better than slow and cool. Better in what way? Texture? Nutrient level? I was thinking of nutrients. The kind of couldn't-care-less heap I've usually made gets an awful lot of rain passing through, which must take away much of the soluble stuff; but it's a fine soil conditioner. Yes, I don't think my compost is particularly rich in nutrients - I don't use it in pots for that reason - but it's improved the soil no end. I was planting a blackberry today, and I dug down about i8 inches of crumbly black soil, not a sign of the yellowish clay that I would expect to hit about a foot down. -- Kay |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: K wrote: Mike Lyle writes If the OP wants quick results, I think compost in an old coal bunker will probably need to be turned more often than in a heap to keep it aerated. I've never been fussy, but I'm sure quickly-made hot compost is much better than slow and cool. Better in what way? Texture? Nutrient level? I was thinking of nutrients. The kind of couldn't-care-less heap I've usually made gets an awful lot of rain passing through, which must take away much of the soluble stuff; but it's a fine soil conditioner. Also for killing weed seeds I would have thought. I have a real problem with these. Wherever I use my compost I get a quick covering of dense lush weeds. I know I should sort out my compostable material more but I find it difficult to be that methodical as my weeding is often fairly frenetic. My heaps are much like yours with not much hope of heating up enough to kill any seeds off. Janet G |
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Right! The bunker is built
"K" wrote in message ... Mike Lyle writes If the OP wants quick results, I think compost in an old coal bunker will probably need to be turned more often than in a heap to keep it aerated. I've never been fussy, but I'm sure quickly-made hot compost is much better than slow and cool. Better in what way? Texture? Nutrient level? -- Kay I guess there is not a lot of difference except a hot brew will kill of most of the nasty seeds. In either case the actual nutrient level of compost is nothing exceptional , it's to be regarded as a soil conditioner rather than a fertiliser. |
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