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Hellebores Help Please
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My hellebores which were excellent plants last year were replanted This in a different part of the garden, they look sad and poorly Not like the others that I left behind which are blooming and have been for weeks Would this be a soil problem do you think, if so what are the best soil types Thanks for your input .................Leslie |
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"Leslie" wrote Hello My hellebores which were excellent plants last year were replanted This in a different part of the garden, they look sad and poorly Not like the others that I left behind which are blooming and have been for weeks Would this be a soil problem do you think, if so what are the best soil types Hellebores are lovely aren't they? They usually do well in a soil has plenty of organic matter incorporated - compost, leaf mould or whatever. A shady or partially shaded place seems to suit them, although they can cope with a sunnier aspect if there's enough moisture. Have you perhaps moved them to a drier area? -- Sue |
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On 9 Mar, 18:57, "Leslie" wrote:
Hello My hellebores which were excellent plants last year were replanted This in a different part of the garden, they look sad and poorly Not like the others that I left behind which are blooming and have been for weeks Would this be a soil problem do you think, if so what are the best soil types Thanks for your input .................Leslie They don't take kindly to being moved. David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On 9 Mar, 20:51, "Dave Hill" wrote:
They don't take kindly to being moved. I've never had hellebores, but get them for a friend. She's mad about them. Though, I think I have just changed my mind. I've seen the 'Whashfield Doubles' mixed recently and I'm in love (these and the Lisianthus 'Pink Ice'). What is happening to me?! |
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"Sue" wrote in message ... "Leslie" wrote Hello My hellebores which were excellent plants last year were replanted This in a different part of the garden, they look sad and poorly Not like the others that I left behind which are blooming and have been for weeks Would this be a soil problem do you think, if so what are the best soil types Hellebores are lovely aren't they? They usually do well in a soil has plenty of organic matter incorporated - compost, leaf mould or whatever. A shady or partially shaded place seems to suit them, although they can cope with a sunnier aspect if there's enough moisture. Have you perhaps moved them to a drier area? -- Sue They are famous for not liking being moved, so like peonies will take awhile to settle. Its why the nice ones are so expensive, splitting clumps is not an options so most are f1 hybrid seedlings (i.e. seed that gives a consistent outcome) which means hand pollination. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:57:53 -0000, "Leslie"
wrote: Hello My hellebores which were excellent plants last year were replanted This in a different part of the garden, they look sad and poorly Not like the others that I left behind which are blooming and have been for weeks Would this be a soil problem do you think, if so what are the best soil types Thanks for your input When did you move them? Are they the orientalis aka hybidus variety? Heard a lecture recently by a hellebore expert (Diana Guy who won BBC Gardener of the year a couple of years ago who has a wonderful collection). She said that these make the most root growth in autumn and winter, therefore they should be moved at the end of summer, and then make new roots in their new positions. Other varieties make growth in summer. They do best in light shade but I have a patch in full sun on my allotment which are very well established with no shade at all. Keep your sad ones shaded and watered and they should pull through. Good luck Pam in Bristol |
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote They are famous for not liking being moved, so like peonies will take awhile to settle. Its why the nice ones are so expensive, splitting clumps is not an options so most are f1 hybrid seedlings (i.e. seed that gives a consistent outcome) which means hand pollination. This is worth knowing since I'm about to plant some more. Most things in my garden seem to shift home once or twice at the very least! Do the posh hybrids set seed worth keeping at all? My father was complaining the other day that he hadn't found any seedlings under the ones he planted last year. Perhaps they germinate later? -- Sue |
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"Sue" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote They are famous for not liking being moved, so like peonies will take awhile to settle. Its why the nice ones are so expensive, splitting clumps is not an options so most are f1 hybrid seedlings (i.e. seed that gives a consistent outcome) which means hand pollination. This is worth knowing since I'm about to plant some more. Most things in my garden seem to shift home once or twice at the very least! Do the posh hybrids set seed worth keeping at all? My father was complaining the other day that he hadn't found any seedlings under the ones he planted last year. Perhaps they germinate later? We have 4 plants that grew from what appear to be seedlings from one original plant that was on its own in a border. It took a few years for any seedlings to appear. The original plant was bought from a garden centre and had dark maroon mottled flowers. The seedlings were potted up and then we moved house and took them with us. We now have two plants that look like the parent, plus one with white flowers and one that is the same colour as the parent but with odd shaped "petals". They are all worth having. That was quite a successful experiment as far as I am concerned. They were also very slow to get going, in keeping with earlier comments. Des in Dublin -- Sue |
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"Des Higgins" wrote in message news "Sue" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote They are famous for not liking being moved, so like peonies will take awhile to settle. Its why the nice ones are so expensive, splitting clumps is not an options so most are f1 hybrid seedlings (i.e. seed that gives a consistent outcome) which means hand pollination. This is worth knowing since I'm about to plant some more. Most things in my garden seem to shift home once or twice at the very least! Do the posh hybrids set seed worth keeping at all? My father was complaining the other day that he hadn't found any seedlings under the ones he planted last year. Perhaps they germinate later? We have 4 plants that grew from what appear to be seedlings from one original plant that was on its own in a border. It took a few years for any seedlings to appear. The original plant was bought from a garden centre and had dark maroon mottled flowers. The seedlings were potted up and then we moved house and took them with us. We now have two plants that look like the parent, plus one with white flowers and one that is the same colour as the parent but with odd shaped "petals". They are all worth having. That was quite a successful experiment as far as I am concerned. They were also very slow to get going, in keeping with earlier comments. Des in Dublin I am with Des, there is no such thing as bad hellebore! If you sow seed fresh in summer as soon as ripe it will germinate between Christmas and News years day, seedlings will reach flowering size in 3 years if potted on at intervals -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote "Des Higgins" wrote We have 4 plants that grew from what appear to be seedlings from one original plant that was on its own in a border. It took a few years for any seedlings to appear. The original plant was bought from a garden centre and had dark maroon mottled flowers. The seedlings were potted up and then we moved house and took them with us. We now have two plants that look like the parent, plus one with white flowers and one that is the same colour as the parent but with odd shaped "petals". They are all worth having. That was quite a successful experiment as far as I am concerned. They were also very slow to get going, in keeping with earlier comments. I am with Des, there is no such thing as bad hellebore! If you sow seed fresh in summer as soon as ripe it will germinate between Christmas and News years day, seedlings will reach flowering size in 3 years if potted on at intervals Thanks chaps. I've got a few of my own potted up from last year but shall have a go with some more and see what they all turn out like. P'raps my father's plants will provide seedlings this time around. I wonder if could have been the mild winter that led to no germination of seedlings for him? They are only coming up to their first year in his garden but were good strong nursery grown beauties. He says he hasn't weeded any out in error. -- Sue |
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On 13/3/07 09:54, in article
, "Sue" wrote: snip Thanks chaps. I've got a few of my own potted up from last year but shall have a go with some more and see what they all turn out like. P'raps my father's plants will provide seedlings this time around. I wonder if could have been the mild winter that led to no germination of seedlings for him? They are only coming up to their first year in his garden but were good strong nursery grown beauties. He says he hasn't weeded any out in error. Some years ago a knowledgeable gardener suggested to me that growing hellebores on top of a wall or bank was a nice idea. Then one can look up into their pretty centres and appreciate them all the more. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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