Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this
https://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/united-kingdom/ I did not know our group
was available in this form.

Mike

On 27/4/07 08:17, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:

Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our group
was available in this form.

They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them there.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 27/4/07 08:17, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:

Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our
group
was available in this form.

They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them there.
--
Sacha


Show me the copyright on any of these postings.


Mike
--
.................................................. ..............
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk

'Mike' wrote:



"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 27/4/07 08:17, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:

Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our
group
was available in this form.

They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them there.
--
Sacha


Show me the copyright on any of these postings.

Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything
one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup
postings as much as anything else. However because of the public
nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly
freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright.

At least this is my understanding.

--
Chris Green

wrote in message
...
'Mike' wrote:



"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 27/4/07 08:17, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:

Whilst searching the web for something else I came across this
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=41 I did not know our
group
was available in this form.

They take the posts from here - without permission - and use them
there.
--
Sacha


Show me the copyright on any of these postings.

Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything
one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup
postings as much as anything else. However because of the public
nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly
freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright.

At least this is my understanding.

--
Chris Green

Can't argue about the first bit but I quite agree about the newsgroups being
'free and easy' with regards their content. However, as Sacha is paranoid
about Garden banter 'pinching her articles', what sort of case would she
have to sue them? A case of laugh in her face? :-)

Mike


--
.................................................. ..............
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk

On 27/4/07 09:12, in article ,
" wrote:

snip

Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything
one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup
postings as much as anything else. However because of the public
nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly
freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright.

At least this is my understanding.

I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the
freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples'
knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own
interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and
greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do.
What is interesting is that on the home page there is this:
"The comments are property of their posters. "

I often wonder what would happen if someone here gave such bad advice that
it wrecked a Gardenbanter reader's garden. Who would the victim sue -
Gardenbanter, obviously.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 27/4/07 09:12, in article ,
" wrote:

snip

Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything
one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup
postings as much as anything else. However because of the public
nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly
freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright.

At least this is my understanding.

I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the
freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples'
knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own
interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and
greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do.
What is interesting is that on the home page there is this:
"The comments are property of their posters. "

I often wonder what would happen if someone here gave such bad advice that
it wrecked a Gardenbanter reader's garden. Who would the victim sue -
Gardenbanter, obviously.

--
Sacha


You ALWAYS create merry hell when a posting comes up from Garden banter and
lay down the law.

Why don't you sue them?

All mouth on here are you?

Put up or shut up.

:-))

Mike


--
.................................................. ..............
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk

Sacha wrote:
On 27/4/07 09:12, in article ,
" wrote:

snip

Copyright doesn't have to be stated to exist. Just about everything
one writes is automatically copyright and this applies to newsgroup
postings as much as anything else. However because of the public
nature of newsgroups it's accepted that their contents are fairly
freely quotable without infringing the original writer's copyright.

At least this is my understanding.

I think we all know that is the case but what some of us object to is the
freeloading for commercial purposes. They're 'stealing' other peoples'
knowledge, information, experiences and using them to promote their own
interests and they haven't even asked if they may do so. It's shabby and
greedy, as are those who endorse it, not that many here do.

Quite, but I suspect that there's little one can do about it except
possibly to join Gardenbanter and make one's case there in the hope
that its readers will move to Usenet proper.

What is interesting is that on the home page there is this:
"The comments are property of their posters. "

So they are at least acknowledging your/my copyright.

--
Chris Green

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:53:31 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I often wonder what would happen if someone here gave such bad advice that
it wrecked a Gardenbanter reader's garden. Who would the victim sue -
Gardenbanter, obviously.

Don't be silly, Sacha, this is the Internet! Nobody could sue anyone
for "bad advice" gleaned from here OR Gardenbanter!

If people take gardening advice from here or Gardenbanter as gospel,
then they deserve ALL they get.

In article , 'Mike'
writes


Show me the copyright on any of these postings.


Mike



It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I
posted to THIS group, happy to give away seeds
I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got
emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I
had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well.


Janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Amersham Gardening Association
http://www.amersham-gardening.net

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , 'Mike'
writes


It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I posted
to THIS group, happy to give away seeds
I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got
emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I
had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well.


Perhaps we should all add "Message not posted to garden banter" to our
signature line. Or perhaps, "Message stolen by garden banter" Oh what fun we
could have.

Mike
Message not posted to garden banter

"Muddymike" wrote in message
...

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , 'Mike'
writes


It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I posted
to THIS group, happy to give away seeds
I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got
emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I
had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well.


Perhaps we should all add "Message not posted to garden banter" to our
signature line. Or perhaps, "Message stolen by garden banter" Oh what fun
we could have.

Mike
Message not posted to garden banter


Looks as if someone else is getting paranoid as well as that sad old woman
:-((

For goodness sake get a life

Mike

MAY BE COPIED TO GARDEN BANTER
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.................................................. ..............
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , 'Mike'
writes


It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I posted
to THIS group, happy to give away seeds
I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got
emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I
had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well.


Just had another look and this thread is on there. Perhaps we should all add
"Message not posted to garden banter" to our
signature line. Or perhaps, "Message stolen by garden banter" Oh what fun we
could have.

Mike
Message stolen by garden banter

On 27/4/07 16:30, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:


"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , 'Mike'
writes


It is actually annoying that they do this because some years ago I posted
to THIS group, happy to give away seeds
I had spare. About 1 year later they put it on their website and I got
emails from lots of unknown people all demanding spare seeds, of which I
had no more! It was disappointing for the emailer as well.


Just had another look and this thread is on there. Perhaps we should all add
"Message not posted to garden banter" to our
signature line. Or perhaps, "Message stolen by garden banter" Oh what fun we
could have.

Mike
Message stolen by garden banter


Good idea. Janet's post is an excellent example of dishonest this practice
is.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

In article , Muddymike
writes
Just had another look and this thread is on there. Perhaps we should all add
"Message not posted to garden banter" to our
signature line. Or perhaps, "Message stolen by garden banter" Oh what fun we
could have.

Mike
Message stolen by garden banter




Would they edit this stuff though?
If people are reading it via the web and garden banter I'm not sure they
all realise that they are doing so and they might enjoy the newsgroup in
full!

Janet
Posting to UK.rec.gardening. a great newsgroup for gardeners


--
Janet Tweedy
Amersham Gardening Association
http://www.amersham-gardening.net