On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:43:03 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:

In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 10/9/07 13:33, in article
,
" wrote:

Because they cross post to as many groups as they can annoy and
because Mike Crowe keeps answering them, keeping all the cross
postings in. When he first came here he annoyed a lot of people and
was remonstrated with for advertising non-gardening related
activities (see the ludicrous sig-file he uses now) That's how he
gets his jollies. Xpostings annoys urglers so he enjoys it.

I thought it was cos they thought they'd get the most support from such
groups as gardening, birds, veggies etc.

Many of us discovered animal rights from newsgroups and google. Some
of us had no idea how bad they get treated, and some of us actually
care about their welfare.

So all in all the newsgroups are a great medium for enlightenment. The
****s that dont want to see it should learn how to use a filter, bunch
of *******.



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Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


****************

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:35:18 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 10/9/07 13:33, in article ,
" wrote:

Because they cross post to as many groups as they can annoy and because Mike
Crowe keeps answering them, keeping all the cross postings in. When he
first came here he annoyed a lot of people

Just like you with your net nannying. Give it a rest.



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Hansom 0++0




Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


****************

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:33:51 GMT, "
wrote:


It's called a public service, and not limited to this group.

Look upon it as a newspaper in binary, you can take it or leave it.



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Hansom 0++0




Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


****************

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...
In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 10/9/07 13:33, in article
,
" wrote:

Because they cross post to as many groups as they can annoy and
because Mike Crowe keeps answering them, keeping all the cross
postings in. When he first came here he annoyed a lot of people and
was remonstrated with for advertising non-gardening related
activities (see the ludicrous sig-file he uses now) That's how he
gets his jollies. Xpostings annoys urglers so he enjoys it.

I thought it was cos they thought they'd get the most support from such
groups as gardening, birds, veggies etc.

Shows wot I know.
That would be my thought when being charitable as well but they mostly go
the wrong way about it and annoy more than inform.


--
Chris, West Cork, Ireland.
Festina lente

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:50:51 +0100, "@@^"
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:26:45 -0700, wrote:

On 10 Sep, 14:54, "David \(Normandy\)"
wrote:
The animal rights people don't do themselves any favours with all this
off-topic posting here (in my opinion).

I don't mind them as such, it's like a newspaper, you read what you
want. It's in the title, you usually get the idea of the thread by the
title. What is annoying is when an urgler respond to them just to be
rude.

It's the net nanny who craves attention that's the problem, going
round from post to post protesteth much and boring the pants off the
rest of us. I suspect most are too stupid to use a kill filter, or
ignore posts that get up their noses.

It's not like many a stupid gardener couldn't do with some advice
about the damage they do to wildlife is it! Chemicals, poisons, deadly
baits in abundance without a care for the consequences to wildlife.

Hedgehogs now an at risk species, birds in serious decline. I wonder
if some of the idiots here even know the damage they are doing, let
alone care about it.

I guess guilt plays it's part on them.
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:15:18 +0100, Steve Wolstenholme wrote
(in article ):

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:18:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 10/9/07 16:09, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:03:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I have to admit that this cross posting lark puts me entirely out of
sympathy with the aims of the people perpetrating it. I suspect that it's
counter-productive with most people and goes straight to a kill file.

I don't see any of it because I have set things up so that anything
crossposted never gets to me. It's easy with the application I use but
I expect the same facilities are in most readers these days.


I can't see a way to do that using Entourage on a Mac, unfortunately.
Perhaps when I get my new Mac........ ;-))

I haven't used a Mac for a long, long time so I can't help but I'm
sure there will be a suitable newsreader.


As Sacha well knows :-) On Hogwasher I have a filter set not to download
messages cross-posted to three or more groups.


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

On 10 Sep, 17:59, "@@^" wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:43:03 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"





wrote:
In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 10/9/07 13:33, in article
,
" wrote:

Because they cross post to as many groups as they can annoy and
because Mike Crowe keeps answering them, keeping all the cross
postings in. When he first came here he annoyed a lot of people and
was remonstrated with for advertising non-gardening related
activities (see the ludicrous sig-file he uses now) That's how he
gets his jollies. Xpostings annoys urglers so he enjoys it.

I thought it was cos they thought they'd get the most support from such
groups as gardening, birds, veggies etc.

Many of us discovered animal rights from newsgroups and google. Some
of us had no idea how bad they get treated, and some of us actually
care about their welfare.

So do I. Carefully-tended animals taste much better than stressed-
out, badly-treated animals. All my pork chops come from contented
pigs.

'Waiter, was this duck wild?'

'Sure; how would you feel if someone shot you and pulled out all your
feathers?'

'Is that the butchers?'

'Yes'

'Do you deliver?'

'No, we only do lamb, prk and beef'.

On 10/9/07 19:32, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:15:18 +0100, Steve Wolstenholme wrote
(in article ):

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:18:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 10/9/07 16:09, in article ,
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:03:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I have to admit that this cross posting lark puts me entirely out of
sympathy with the aims of the people perpetrating it. I suspect that it's
counter-productive with most people and goes straight to a kill file.

I don't see any of it because I have set things up so that anything
crossposted never gets to me. It's easy with the application I use but
I expect the same facilities are in most readers these days.


I can't see a way to do that using Entourage on a Mac, unfortunately.
Perhaps when I get my new Mac........ ;-))

I haven't used a Mac for a long, long time so I can't help but I'm
sure there will be a suitable newsreader.


As Sacha well knows :-) On Hogwasher I have a filter set not to download
messages cross-posted to three or more groups.

I tried using that and did something 'orrible to my computer IIRC!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 11 Sep, 01:57, "@@^" wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:54:44 +0200, "David \(Normandy\)"

wrote:

I thought it was cos they thought they'd get the most support from such
groups as gardening, birds, veggies etc.

Shows wot I know.


Because so many of us are animals, innit?

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:12:58 -0700, Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
wrote:

On 11 Sep, 01:57, "@@^" wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:54:44 +0200, "David \(Normandy\)"

wrote:

I thought it was cos they thought they'd get the most support from such
groups as gardening, birds, veggies etc.

Shows wot I know.


Because so many of us are animals, innit?

Filthy beasts.



--










Hansom 0++0




Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


****************

"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:03:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I have to admit that this cross posting lark puts me entirely out of
sympathy with the aims of the people perpetrating it. I suspect that
it's
counter-productive with most people and goes straight to a kill file.

I don't see any of it because I have set things up so that anything
crossposted never gets to me. It's easy with the application I use but
I expect the same facilities are in most readers these days.

Steve

--
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EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.

http://www.easynn.com

I have not found a way of doing it with OE6 (yet!)

--
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http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cultivars

On 10 Sep, 19:09, Gary wrote:
It's the net nanny who craves attention that's the problem, going
round from post to post protesteth much and boring the pants off the
rest of us. I suspect most are too stupid to use a kill filter, or
ignore posts that get up their noses.
It's not like many a stupid gardener couldn't do with some advice
about the damage they do to wildlife is it! Chemicals, poisons, deadly
baits in abundance without a care for the consequences to wildlife.
Hedgehogs now an at risk species, birds in serious decline. I wonder
if some of the idiots here even know the damage they are doing, let
alone care about it.
I guess guilt plays it's part on them.

Since when do you speaketh so much truth?! Nice one.

On 11/9/07 11:30, in article
, "
wrote:
I wonder
if some of the idiots here even know the damage they are doing, let
alone care about it.
I guess guilt plays it's part on them.

Since when do you speaketh so much truth?! Nice one.

There is an abundance of posts to this group from people who clearly are
interested in wildlife, in using organic and ecological methods and who do
all they can to keep birds, hedgehogs and other species in their gardens,
offering safe havens for them. You, who are so keen on these things, then
encourage into this group, which supports and encourages lovers of wildlife,
trolls who will do all they can to spoil things. The piece above about "I
wonder if some of the idiots here even know the damage they are doing"
certainly applies to those of you who are doing all you can to encourage
people who are trying to ruin urg. You have no cause to be smug.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 11 Sep, 11:48, Sacha wrote:
There is an abundance of posts to this group from people who clearly are
interested in wildlife, in using organic and ecological methods and who do
all they can to keep birds, hedgehogs and other species in their gardens,
offering safe havens for them. You, who are so keen on these things, then
encourage into this group, which supports and encourages lovers of wildlife,
trolls who will do all they can to spoil things. The piece above about "I
wonder if some of the idiots here even know the damage they are doing"
certainly applies to those of you who are doing all you can to encourage
people who are trying to ruin urg. You have no cause to be smug.

Are you for real Sacha?!

You have responded to this thread first. Do you know captainpugwash
and therefore don't you think you are the first person who has
contributed to the 'ruin' of this group, as you put it?

The idiots refers to people in urg, I think, who admit to using
chemicals (not to feed the thousands nor to kill millions of locusts
but to protect a little bush in their little front garden) and you
know who you are. Did you get that Sacha? Why don't you get this?

Do you actually beleive I am responsible for all the crossposts?

Do you consider Gary's post a troll post? If yes, why?

Do you consider captainpugwash a troll post? If no, why?

Why are you such a tyrant?

You better be very careful about your answers because you are now
being very closely watch by many lil' trolls, garls and boys alike who
cannot wait for people like you who unleash their nasties on others
when they don't get their ways. And us, the urglers who are quite
tired of your finger pointing at me. Don't involve me in your rants
and your imaginings. I'm now quite fed up with it. Go and find someone
else.

wrote in message
ups.com...
On 11 Sep, 11:48, Sacha wrote:
There is an abundance of posts to this group from people who clearly are
interested in wildlife, in using organic and ecological methods and who
do
all they can to keep birds, hedgehogs and other species in their gardens,
offering safe havens for them. You, who are so keen on these things,
then
encourage into this group, which supports and encourages lovers of
wildlife,
trolls who will do all they can to spoil things. The piece above about
"I
wonder if some of the idiots here even know the damage they are doing"
certainly applies to those of you who are doing all you can to encourage
people who are trying to ruin urg. You have no cause to be smug.

Are you for real Sacha?!

You have responded to this thread first. Do you know captainpugwash
and therefore don't you think you are the first person who has
contributed to the 'ruin' of this group, as you put it?

The idiots refers to people in urg, I think, who admit to using
chemicals (not to feed the thousands nor to kill millions of locusts
but to protect a little bush in their little front garden) and you
know who you are. Did you get that Sacha? Why don't you get this?

Do you actually beleive I am responsible for all the crossposts?

Do you consider Gary's post a troll post? If yes, why?

Do you consider captainpugwash a troll post? If no, why?

Why are you such a tyrant?

You better be very careful about your answers because you are now
being very closely watch by many lil' trolls, garls and boys alike who
cannot wait for people like you who unleash their nasties on others
when they don't get their ways. And us, the urglers who are quite
tired of your finger pointing at me. Don't involve me in your rants
and your imaginings. I'm now quite fed up with it. Go and find someone
else.


As I have said many, many, many times, if there is aggression in the
newsgroup, just who is there in the midst of it if they have not started it
in the first place? :-))

Do have a nice day. The sun is shining.

A lot to be said for a day here ...
http://www.globalretreatcentre.org.u...ayretreats.htm :-))

Kindest regards

Mike

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