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10-09-2008, 09:02 PM
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ID this flower, please?
I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland.
Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg |
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10-09-2008, 09:52 PM
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ID this flower, please?
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, "Cat(h)" writes I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Not a plant I'm familiar with (i.e. I don't think I've ever seen it) but try elecampane (Inula helenium). -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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10-09-2008, 10:19 PM
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ID this flower, please?
On Sep 10, 9:52*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote: In message , "Cat(h)" writesI took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Not a plant I'm familiar with (i.e. I don't think I've ever seen it) but try elecampane (Inula helenium). -- Stewart Robert Hinsley Just google imaged it, and it's exactly right! Thanks a mil! Cat(h) |
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10-09-2008, 10:26 PM
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ID this flower, please?
"Cat(h)" wrote in message ... I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Inula, possibly? Spider |
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10-09-2008, 10:31 PM
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ID this flower, please?
On Sep 10, 10:26*pm, "Spider" wrote:
"Cat(h)" wrote in message ... I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Inula, possibly? Spider Thanks to you and Stewart. I'm googling it and liking what I'm finding. I thought it was a garden escapee, but maybe not. And it has nice celtic folklore attaching to it. Thanks again! Cat(h) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecampane |
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10-09-2008, 11:17 PM
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, "Cat(h)" writes On Sep 10, 10:26*pm, "Spider" wrote: "Cat(h)" wrote in message ... I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Inula, possibly? Spider Thanks to you and Stewart. I'm googling it and liking what I'm finding. I thought it was a garden escapee, but maybe not. And it has nice celtic folklore attaching to it. Thanks again! Cat(h) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecampane According to the flora I identified it from, it's an old garden escapee. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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10-09-2008, 11:44 PM
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On Sep 10, 11:17*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote: In message , "Cat(h)" writes On Sep 10, 10:26*pm, "Spider" wrote: "Cat(h)" wrote in message .... I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Inula, possibly? Spider Thanks to you and Stewart. I'm googling it and liking what I'm finding. *I thought it was a garden escapee, but maybe not. And it has nice celtic folklore attaching to it. Thanks again! Cat(h) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecampane According to the flora I identified it from, it's an old garden escapee. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - in my Irish Flora, it is described as rather rare and not native and usually found near houses and ruins which makes it "an old garden escapee". Well spotted that man. |
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10-09-2008, 11:52 PM
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ID this flower, please?
On Sep 10, 11:44*pm, Des Higgins wrote:
On Sep 10, 11:17*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: In message , "Cat(h)" writes On Sep 10, 10:26*pm, "Spider" wrote: "Cat(h)" wrote in message ... I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg Inula, possibly? Spider Thanks to you and Stewart. I'm googling it and liking what I'm finding. *I thought it was a garden escapee, but maybe not. And it has nice celtic folklore attaching to it. Thanks again! Cat(h) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecampane According to the flora I identified it from, it's an old garden escapee.. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - my Irish Flora, it is described as rather rare and not native and usually found near houses and ruins which makes it "an old garden escapee". *Well spotted that man.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Any indication of how old is old? It's a nice plant. It was really odd how it turned up just in that pile of disturbed building site soil, and appeared to be present in none of the local gardens - I checked, because I spent some time in the locality, and was really intrigued. Anyway, thank you all. Cat(h) |
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11-09-2008, 02:09 PM
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ID this flower, please?
On Sep 11, 9:16 am, Sacha wrote:
On 10/9/08 21:02, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg I think it could be Inula magnifica. We have two types in the garden and that's one of them but I'm not sure if yours is tall enough. I am dredging my memory for the other at the moment but will have to ask Ray and report back! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Stewart is right; it looks like Inula helenium which is found naturalised near old buildings in Ireland. It is widespread but rare. It was widely used medicinally in times past. |
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11-09-2008, 05:09 PM
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On Sep 11, 9:16*am, Sacha wrote:
On 10/9/08 21:02, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg I think it could be Inula magnifica. *We have two types in the garden and that's one of them but I'm not sure if yours is tall enough. *I am dredging my memory for the other at the moment but will have to ask Ray and report back! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon From the colour/structure of the foliage and sheer size, I think helenium is a closer match. Either way, I am delighted to have learned about a new plant. Thank you all! Cat(h) |
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11-09-2008, 09:21 PM
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ID this flower, please?
On 11/9/08 17:09, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: On Sep 11, 9:16*am, Sacha wrote: On 10/9/08 21:02, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg I think it could be Inula magnifica. *We have two types in the garden and that's one of them but I'm not sure if yours is tall enough. *I am dredging my memory for the other at the moment but will have to ask Ray and report back! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon From the colour/structure of the foliage and sheer size, I think helenium is a closer match. Either way, I am delighted to have learned about a new plant. Thank you all! Cat(h) I. magnifica goes up to 6' to 8' so that should help clinch it! I. Helenium is the shorter one we have, something between 2' and 3' tall. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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11-09-2008, 10:44 PM
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In message , Sacha
writes On 11/9/08 17:09, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: On Sep 11, 9:16*am, Sacha wrote: On 10/9/08 21:02, in article , "Cat(h)" wrote: I took these pics in early August in NW Ireland. Those plants (about 3 or 4 of them) were growing amids lots of weeds on piles of topsoil disturbed on a building site. *I looked around, but could not find anything similar nearby, in gardens or in the surrounding countryside. I would say they were approx 50 to 80cm tall. *The flowers themselves were relatively large, maybe 8 to 10cm in diametre. Can anyone help? TIA! http://i38.tinypic.com/2jcwt2h.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/o6k9p4.jpg I think it could be Inula magnifica. *We have two types in the garden and that's one of them but I'm not sure if yours is tall enough. *I am dredging my memory for the other at the moment but will have to ask Ray and report back! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon From the colour/structure of the foliage and sheer size, I think helenium is a closer match. Either way, I am delighted to have learned about a new plant. Thank you all! Cat(h) I. magnifica goes up to 6' to 8' so that should help clinch it! I. Helenium is the shorter one we have, something between 2' and 3' tall. The other plant I considered was common fleabane, Pulicaria dysenterica (which I've seen in 3 localities), but the flower size is enough to distinguish it. (The capitulum of Inula helenium is also more "ragged", and there are differences in the involucre.) (Actually my line of thought was "that looks like Pulicaria dysenterica, but it's not quite right - lets look up Inuleae in the book.) -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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